Finally waking up TAB

[Crow 229]

Some proposed 230 jobs to go for cost saving measures. Why only now after 18 months of RITA have they found an over spending organization  not capable of meeting the needs of the industry that they represent. This was happening before Covid 19 but now they have a excuse now to fall back on.

[Chris Wood 1,577]

Very poorly run, and they are blaming the virus?
Heaven forbid, the writing was on the wall along way out, fancy an organisation like this being insolvent!

[arjay 451]

30 minutes ago, Crow said:

Some proposed 230 jobs to go for cost saving measures. Why only now after 18 months of RITA have they found an over spending organization  not capable of meeting the needs of the industry that they represent. This was happening before Covid 19 but now they have a excuse now to fall back on.

I have to wonder how many trough snorters among this lot?

[nomates 3,605]

48 minutes ago, Crow said:

Some proposed 230 jobs to go for cost saving measures. Why only now after 18 months of RITA have they found an over spending organization  not capable of meeting the needs of the industry that they represent. This was happening before Covid 19 but now they have a excuse now to fall back on.

People like these have a great ability to convince themselves and others that the lights aren't really fading , they will keep their snouts in the trough for as long as they can even when they know everyone has woken up to their corporate speak bullshit . 

[JJ Flash 2,135]

1 hour ago, Crow said:

Why only now after 18 months of RITA

Not sure your remotely factual there Crow. RITA has been in existence since when ?

 

Greg

[Crow 229]

1 hour ago, JJ Flash said:

Not sure your remotely factual there Crow. RITA has been in existence since when ?

 

Greg

1 July 2019 Winston Appointed them the mandate to manage the changes needed to revitalize the racing industry and carry out the day to day functions of the TAB AND Trackside. Sorry got time frame wrong for RITA as we know it as though of the goings on with Messara report which would be closer to time frame. After reading their mandate they are well off key with that.

[Baz (NZ) 1,722]

3 hours ago, Crow said:

Some proposed 230 jobs to go for cost saving measures. Why only now after 18 months of RITA have they found an over spending organization  not capable of meeting the needs of the industry that they represent. This was happening before Covid 19 but now they have a excuse now to fall back on.

This is happening to low wage workers countrywide now with all big business that has been badly run for years by deadwood suits on thousands $$$!

Sack the staff (normally the coalface workers) or reduce their wages substantially and blame Covid-19 for all the previously years of bad management slurping at the trough!

Example... Fletcher Building

"Fletcher Building said 95 per cent of its 9000 workforce had accepted a pay proposal where their salaries would be slashed by up to 70 per cent in the weeks following the Covid-19 lockdown, while senior staff raised their pay cuts from 15 per cent to 30 per cent.

[Insider 3,960]

Let’s hope that John Allen quickly gets in and grabs some of his old NZ Post mates for Wellington NZ. 
 

At least that way it will save a large amount of redundancy money, as they were all up in the 200 & 300k bracket, the blood sucking useless.........., you choose the word!

[We're Doomed 4,865]

9 minutes ago, Insider said:

Let’s hope that John Allen quickly gets in and grabs some of his old NZ Post mates for Wellington NZ. 
 

At least that way it will save a large amount of redundancy money, as they were all up in the 200 & 300k bracket, the blood sucking useless.........., you choose the word!

It will be interesting to see who is shown the door: the actual racing people or the ex postmen.

[eljay 1,720]

TV will be done from the studio plus the commentator so one imagines the course presenters will head the queue

[JJ Flash 2,135]

11 hours ago, Crow said:

1 July 2019 Winston Appointed them the mandate to manage the changes needed to revitalize the racing industry and carry out the day to day functions of the TAB AND Trackside. Sorry got time frame wrong for RITA as we know it as though of the goings on with Messara report which would be closer to time frame. After reading their mandate they are well off key with that.

So that's 9 months and not your original 18 months that RITA have been in existence. Glenda and John left when , wasn't it December.

 

Greg

[Boss Hogg 320]

9 hours ago, Insider said:

Let’s hope that John Allen quickly gets in and grabs some of his old NZ Post mates for Wellington NZ. 
 

At least that way it will save a large amount of redundancy money, as they were all up in the 200 & 300k bracket, the blood sucking useless.........., you choose the word!

Hi Insider  it would be good if it worked like that but they all get their redundancy and then they get their snout radar out and find another trough cheers BH

[mikenz 1,090]

2 hours ago, eljay said:

TV will be done from the studio plus the commentator so one imagines the course presenters will head the queue

The way the aussie are doing the races at the present times is all you need for screening races,remember they too have cutback cost ,

[We're Doomed 4,865]

4 minutes ago, mikenz said:

The way the aussie are doing the races at the present times is all you need for screening races,remember they too have cutback cost ,

I'm loving the Saturdays at present, no big gaps, decent fields, no one telling us how to "play" the race, whatever that means.

[mikenz 1,090]

True but there are times when the tv coverage is also a drag, midweek after 7 o clock with the excess of greyhounds and a smaller number of harness races, i dont mind the trots but the greyhounds are just a time filler, noone really bothers betting on them

[mikenz 1,090]

i would still like to know what benefits the tab/racing or whatever get from being on pay tv, if its cheaper on sky then fine but is it, you do have the streams on the website so in reality it is free to air but not all of us are up with such things.

[Huey 2,037]

33 minutes ago, mikenz said:

i would still like to know what benefits the tab/racing or whatever get from being on pay tv, if its cheaper on sky then fine but is it, you do have the streams on the website so in reality it is free to air but not all of us are up with such things.

Next to none, reducing access to a betting product is just downright silly.

Bernard(NZTR) said they are looking at options for bring it back to our tv screens. What I find amusing is particularly after listening to him claim NZTR are being innovative with free racing and paying to 14th is that everything they are now doing they have been told about by the industry for years and its taken a dire situation for them to listen.

[mikenz 1,090]

im not sure paying the 14th finisher is a good idea, however at present it does help to build up numbers for now, whats wrong with having saturday racing and feature days  being on free tv such as tvnz or the duke channel,or best option is just somehow get trackside frre to air fulltime.

[Huey 2,037]

41 minutes ago, mikenz said:

im not sure paying the 14th finisher is a good idea, however at present it does help to build up numbers for now, whats wrong with having saturday racing and feature days  being on free tv such as tvnz or the duke channel,or best option is just somehow get trackside frre to air fulltime.

I think its a great idea.

Why do you think it isn't?

[mikenz 1,090]

I did say at present it's ok but maybe as things improve maybe free acceptances is enough if you chuck money for finishing last it tends to foster mediocrity (excuse the spelling on that last word)lol

[nomates 3,605]

2 hours ago, mikenz said:

im not sure paying the 14th finisher is a good idea, however at present it does help to build up numbers for now, whats wrong with having saturday racing and feature days  being on free tv such as tvnz or the duke channel,or best option is just somehow get trackside frre to air fulltime.

Mikenz , paying back to 14th is the one most positive things to come out of NZTR in years . Don't know your history of ownership but i can tell you from having raced many horses and halving talked to many in the industry that starting to recognize what owners put into racing horses in way of a small subsidy is always been the #1 starting point . There are many more slow horses than fast and keeping them in training longer to help bolster field sizes which in turn helps boost turnover which then equates to more funding back into racing . Every major jurisdiction in the world pays a runner subsidy , for a reason . If that is only to recognize the the roll owners play in racing , fantastic . I can assure you it will also keep less experienced and newer owners in the game , seeing that they are not just forking out all the time .

[Stables 577]

I really believe that owners should keep all payments further back than 5th, after paying the Jockeys fee, but definitely no payment to trainer. It's hard enough for owners to get anywhere near covering costs as it is

[Crow 229]

9 hours ago, JJ Flash said:

So that's 9 months and not your original 18 months that RITA have been in existence. Glenda and John left when , wasn't it December.

 

Greg

John Allen resigned before the bullet,was he not the CEO of RITA back in September 2019 

[Crow 229]

17 hours ago, Insider said:

Let’s hope that John Allen quickly gets in and grabs some of his old NZ Post mates for Wellington NZ. 
 

At least that way it will save a large amount of redundancy money, as they were all up in the 200 & 300k bracket, the blood sucking useless.........., you choose the word!

John Allen quoted getting the CEO job that had employees on $900000 salary was going to be fun after his $600,000 salary at MIA and working in a 2 billion dollar industry he  must be proud of his achievements in helping in to become insolvent.

[slam dunk 1,317]

6 hours ago, Crow said:

John Allen quoted getting the CEO job that had employees on $900000 salary was going to be fun after his $600,000 salary at MIA and working in a 2 billion dollar industry he  must be proud of his achievements in helping in to become insolvent.

The clue was there from his very first statement that he knew nothing about racing. When he said TAB was a $2billion business he was $1.5billion out. So only a $60 million deficit on the infamous platform therefore peanuts. Mind you he was right about the salary being "fun".