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28 minutes ago, GOM said:

It is correct that we are  breding from dogs with genetic issues.

Brett Lee is a good example, with one testicle. Brett has left a legacy in the greyhound world by leaving the very best of dogs world wide, yet with that legacy went another and a negative genetic issue went worldwide as well.

If you were the manager of the National stud and had all the information on Brett Lee's huge results of his offspring on the track would you have allowed him to be used.

I believe the answer that should be no but it would take a brave woman to say no.

Breeding centres would focus on best practice rather than a quick buck. They would be looking far beyond just a parent. Anecdotally there appear to be patterns emerging in retired greys. Anyhow those in power are determined to hold on to an outdated model. Eagerly awaiting tomorrows dates calendar. I wonder, is the TAB running odds on which tracks are to close? 10 TB tracks gone, possibly harness and greys will share another 10. If Winston is true to his plan of centralisation, Auckland, Otago, Manawatu, and Southland will be gone, although the latter two may get a lifeline.

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Emotive - I applaud you for your ideas and they may well be in the future but until we view a feasibility study we can only assume that there isn't one.       Gom has highlighted genetic issues in our dogs and these should not be ignored or underestimated as failure is both irresponsible and avoidable.    Corey has requested some genetic guidelines.     A basic understanding is a must have.   It is a myth that the dam has more genetic influence than the sire.    The dam's increased importance is due to her role as carer during pregnancy and in rearing.     Genetic contributions to the offspring from the sire is equal to the contribution of the dam.    Most physical attributes of an animal are substantially influenced by the genes inherited from the two parents which each have two pairs of 39 chromosomes and each chromosome carries thousands of genes.    The risks associated with the choosing of a sire are very different to the risks with choosing a dam.    Once a sire has 80 or so pups to race the evidence of his genetic merit and more importantly his ability to pass on this genetic merit, has been tested.     A critical approach to bitch selection is essential as some outstanding race performers do not breed on.    They may have inherited a combination of genes in patterns that do not get passed on to their progeny.    Pedigree background is useful and important but there is a risk that too much attention gets paid to distant ancestors that contribute only a small proportion of genes to the animal of interest.   We all know that breeding successful greyhounds involves a substantial amount of luck, but a critical approach is necessary when selecting the parents.    Type and soundness are highly heritable.      Regarding different sire lines carrying genetic faults, it must be remembered that our top sires have thousands of puppies.    It is the percentage of puppies with these faults that matters.     Regards Ray

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2 hours ago, grandad47 said:

Emotive - I applaud you for your ideas and they may well be in the future but until we view a feasibility study we can only assume that there isn't one.       Gom has highlighted genetic issues in our dogs and these should not be ignored or underestimated as failure is both irresponsible and avoidable.    Corey has requested some genetic guidelines.     A basic understanding is a must have.   It is a myth that the dam has more genetic influence than the sire.    The dam's increased importance is due to her role as carer during pregnancy and in rearing.     Genetic contributions to the offspring from the sire is equal to the contribution of the dam.    Most physical attributes of an animal are substantially influenced by the genes inherited from the two parents which each have two pairs of 39 chromosomes and each chromosome carries thousands of genes.    The risks associated with the choosing of a sire are very different to the risks with choosing a dam.    Once a sire has 80 or so pups to race the evidence of his genetic merit and more importantly his ability to pass on this genetic merit, has been tested.     A critical approach to bitch selection is essential as some outstanding race performers do not breed on.    They may have inherited a combination of genes in patterns that do not get passed on to their progeny.    Pedigree background is useful and important but there is a risk that too much attention gets paid to distant ancestors that contribute only a small proportion of genes to the animal of interest.   We all know that breeding successful greyhounds involves a substantial amount of luck, but a critical approach is necessary when selecting the parents.    Type and soundness are highly heritable.      Regarding different sire lines carrying genetic faults, it must be remembered that our top sires have thousands of puppies.    It is the percentage of puppies with these faults that matters.     Regards Ray

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Grandad47 (Ray)

Based on what I know and what I have read, I don't believe racing has much of a future when our only solution to this crisis is to reduce costs clubs and tracks. To continue on the same path in this environment, an environment saturated with hundreds of attractive alternatives competing for the same dollar, that is suicidal behaviour. The racing industry has always been the domain of those who see no further than their backyard, clinging to their boundary pegs for dear life. When they should have been looking to amalgamate and consolidate, they built higher fences instead. More tracks will close by the end of next season. More should have been closed now.

Avondale sits on an absolute goldmine. If sold up the money could be used to build a state of the art training facility elsewhere. A facility attached to an existing non-racing track. It would give trainers the opportunity to relocate into one of the designated centralised areas. There is so much that the proceeds could do for racing in general, but because the club now has the hump, all we hear is slash and burn. Just one of many examples of industry shortsightedness. Woodville I believe sold of their track for a dollar so after years of punters, trainers, and jockeys supporting their club, they threw any possible benefit to those people away.

To survive the next 10 years we have to work and think smarter;
-provide a product that appeals to more people,
-provide a product that is more socially acceptable,
-level the playing field with reliable income,
-provide more employment opportunities,
-partner up with other mainstream providers,
-introduce wagering competition,
-but most of all, we need to change the mindset of all who participate. If we are not willing to change, racing is doomed. It's like watching the Titanic circle the iceberg.

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