Barry Lichter 179 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/pike-trainers-need-urgent-assurances-from-rita-before-we-bring-horses-back-into-work/ Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talk 308 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Wow. Not being prepared to answer wether or not they are solvent. Both the RITA directors and the whole racing industry must be on thin ice. Watch out for the relocations to Australia. Baz (NZ), Aaron Bidlake and TurnyTom 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,519 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 All very reasonabe questions, have read them on here for years. I guess with the Govt wage subsidy we have been educated and amazed at the ludicrous staffing and wage costs. Lord knows where are headed but one thing for sure, massive urgent changes must be made Why wait till the 29th surely an immediate meeting should have been held via zoom or such like talk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,455 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, Barry Lichter said: https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/pike-trainers-need-urgent-assurances-from-rita-before-we-bring-horses-back-into-work/ Finally the trainers assn showing some starch , long over due but credit where credit is due . The response from RITA has shown how little respect and i believe contempt they actually have for racing participants . This is the pointy end now , what action owners and trainers take now will decide which direction racing goes for a long time to come . If ever there was a time to withhold product it is now . Don't ask for change , DEMAND it , DEMAND more say in the management of the racing industry , take back control of the industry . Nobody knows more about the deficiencies in NZ racing than industry participants . If we step back now and don't DEMAND more input then i believe the future is doomed . talk and gubellini 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Why not ask NZTR's Bernard Saundry for a heads up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,007 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, nomates said: Finally the trainers assn showing some starch , long over due but credit where credit is due . The response from RITA has shown how little respect and i believe contempt they actually have for racing participants . This is the pointy end now , what action owners and trainers take now will decide which direction racing goes for a long time to come . If ever there was a time to withhold product it is now . Don't ask for change , DEMAND it , DEMAND more say in the management of the racing industry , take back control of the industry . Nobody knows more about the deficiencies in NZ racing than industry participants . If we step back now and don't DEMAND more input then i believe the future is doomed . With hold product , there is no product to with hold , they are all in the paddock . You know the shutdown that comrade cindy implemented . It's really amazing to see how Ausse racing is going , it might be all we have to punt on in the future who knows but I do know Australia (27 million ) had 4 new virus cases yesterday , none in Queensland . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Patiti said: Why not ask NZTR's Bernard Saundry for a heads up. Bernard Saundry (always available) done a Facebook answer and question show today. He had no update to offer from RITA except to say they are working with them in a continuous changing environment. Patiti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,010 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, shaneMcAlister said: Bernard Saundry (always available) done a Facebook answer and question show today. He had no update to offer from RITA except to say they are working with them in a continuous changing environment. Yeahh... sound like 2 or 3 weeks before we will have much to go on. https://www.facebook.com/LOVERACING.NZ/videos/695213127880942/?t=0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Leggy said: Yeahh... sound like 2 or 3 weeks before we will have much to go on. https://www.facebook.com/LOVERACING.NZ/videos/695213127880942/?t=0 Herein lies the issue. If it 3 weeks, that is the middle of May before you an in a position to make an informed decision re the horse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,455 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, tripple alliance said: With hold product , there is no product to with hold , they are all in the paddock . You know the shutdown that comrade cindy implemented . It's really amazing to see how Ausse racing is going , it might be all we have to punt on in the future who knows but I do know Australia (27 million ) had 4 new virus cases yesterday , none in Queensland . Ok i'm going to indulge you just this once more , leave them in the paddock , dickhead . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangfire 48 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Simply no respect comes from RITA/previously the NZ Racing Board, who obviously have always felt answerable to themselves only. Hence we all get the middle finger flicked our way - trainers, breeders, owners, NZTR, Harness, Greyhounds, John Messara, and even Winston Peters has been let down. Everyone's been so nice, for such a long long time, but look how far that has got us. And now we pray the runaway train has finally derailed, perhaps even insolvent. This our only realistic hope for a fresh start in actioning John Messara's recommendations. Time to bring out the mongrel. Where are you Peter V'landys when we need you. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Bidlake 759 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 The couple I own are not doing anything until we know what the minimum stakes are. Of the few I do have for owners for most are in doubt if to come back or not with only the Yearling the one to come back for certain once we are allowed to. Scary times ahead, not good in this household when the better half owns a travel agency so not much happening in her field either! TurnyTom, Insider, Gruff and 4 others 1 1 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Bidlake 759 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Lucky you don’t own a pub or restaurant !! For sure. Certainly a lot of people pulling their hair out at the moment in all sorts of industries. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 C'mon team, just stay inside and be kind- "everything's going to be just fine". Mother Theresa in the hijab says so! A relative in the Wellington bunker assures me Robertson is arranging a delivery to all stables a bag of Ohakune's finest. dock leaf and Gruff 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Lucky you don’t own a pub or restaurant !! Not great scenes. Try having borrowed for an event business....fcuked too. Baz (NZ), rdytdy and Gruff 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Hey we are all in this together....the shit Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,007 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Any chance the government might stump up with $20 or $30 million to help racing out . Racing has it's problems as we all know but it's the lockdown that's pushed it over the edge . Yesterday they handed over $30 million to food banks and the sally's , today the media received $50 million , we are all in this together right , so why not ask , what's good for one is good for all . Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Now is the time joint venture with overseas betting operator. If RITA gets funds from the Government we are indebted to the Government going forward. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,519 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Govt won't step up with a dollar. Offshore their betting, give it to people who know the industry, our lot don't it is as simple as that We are paying for years of gross mismanagement and the bullshit website is the jewel in the crown of total incompetence What is happening was always going to happen Pam Robson, Huey, We're Doomed and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, tripple alliance said: Any chance the government might stump up with $20 or $30 million to help racing out . Racing has it's problems as we all know but it's the lockdown that's pushed it over the edge . Yesterday they handed over $30 million to food banks and the sally's , today the media received $50 million , we are all in this together right , so why not ask , what's good for one is good for all Haven't racing had a bit from taxpayer for the AWT ? 23 mill I thought it was .That's a decent handout for any sport , plus the tax credit for high priced yearlings does racing/breeding really want more tax payer dollars . Lot of shiny arses on big dough according to some of those wage subsidy details . I think they might want the taxpayer reassured the costs are cut first and by a lot , and how long the 17 mill a year goes to Paddy Power needs paying for . So 23 mill AWT, 30 mill to feed hungry families . Racing doing alright out taxpayer when it's put in those terms , I like kids to have food in their bellies rather than blokes in subsidised BMWs pushing paper. shaneMcAlister, TurnyTom, GOM and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,519 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Well said RR Red Rum 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb 2,062 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Red Rum said: Haven't racing had a bit from taxpayer for the AWT ? 23 mill I thought it was .That's a decent handout for any sport , plus the tax credit for high priced yearlings does racing/breeding really want more tax payer dollars . Lot of shiny arses on big dough according to some of those wage subsidy details . I think they might want the taxpayer reassured the costs are cut first and by a lot , and how long the 17 mill a year goes to Paddy Power needs paying for . So 23 mill AWT, 30 mill to feed hungry families . Racing doing alright out taxpayer when it's put in those terms , I like kids to have food in their bellies rather than blokes in subsidised BMWs pushing paper. Great, that's perception not reality. The majority in the racing industry are on the bones of their arse already, many getting paid slightly above minimum wage at best for early starts and hard graft. Do you throw those people on the scrap heap as well? Many of the industry's people will struggle to get another job quickly, better to keep those people employed and supporting others rather than confining them to handouts like the hungry families you refer too. They are not mutually exclusive you know. Give them the cash and appoint an intelligent person/s to sort out the mess once and for all, now is not the time to flog off assets at rock bottom, if we are not confident this can be turned around then so be it, cast it all aside. I believe it can be very successful with decent visionary leadership the likes of which hasn't been evident for yrs. Baz (NZ), Patiti, Pam Robson and 5 others 6 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,519 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Good post Barry No one wants industry participants on the scrap heap and I am sure RR will agree as he shares that view. But tell me where the hell are we headed and in my mind it is 10 minutes to midnight. I find the response to Pikes email arrogantly unbelievable. We will come back to you in a week, really FO and get in the real world of Level 4. And their arrogant response addresses the attitude over the last 7 or 8 years The game is stuffed, drop the curtains as it is all over - finito Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 I don't know why you post on this site Tom. You would be better off joining some organisation such as Good Samaritans you seem to be full of the joys of life Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,519 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 I fully understand business Stables, and if you genuinely think for a moment the world is fine, take a couple of hours out and read the last Annual Report, suggest you have a bottle of vino nearby to celebrate whatever you take out of it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...