claude55 16 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Have any of or politicians taken pay cuts so as to fall in line with the rest of NZ strugglers. If so can we name them as being good people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,542 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 CEO ChCh City Council took a $50k 10% hit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, TurnyTom said: CEO ChCh City Council took a $50k 10% hit She still earns more than the PM , let's hope she still works hard to trim the fat off the councils bloated spending and largesse . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,542 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Or, hold rates to zero and manage their expenditure much better - CCC think ratepayers have a bottomless pocket and we simply do not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, TurnyTom said: Or, hold rates to zero and manage their expenditure much better - CCC think ratepayers have a bottomless pocket and we simply do not They take the maximum piss to be fair TT .Zero per cent a certainty this year though .The shit they pay for is unreal . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 The Prime Minister, The Deputy Prime Minister, the Leader Of The Opposition and all members of cabinet have taken a 20% pay cut Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,542 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Yes the CCC just playing with it, the 10% is pure tokenism Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOODBINE 88 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 We all tend to forget that John Key did not take a salary during his time as Prime Minister This was a large sacrifice also practiced by Donald J Trump. dock leaf, napier and TurnyTom 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, WOODBINE said: We all tend to forget that John Key did not take a salary during his time as Prime Minister This was a large sacrifice also practiced by Donald J Trump. Is that a definate fact he did not draw a wage , he indicated prior to election that a large part of salary he would donate to charity . Not drawing a wage is totally different to drawing a wage and giving it to a charity of choice as pointed out to a number of council officials recently , as drawing a wage and giving to charity is still drawing a wage . It would be interesting to see if Sir Key continued this noble non drawing of salary into his life of ex PM, like the 51K plus benefits that ex PMs receive plus car replaced at 60k kms plus travel benefits .Good on them for earning the coin and benefits but is it for sure he never drew a wage as PM . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dock leaf 142 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, WOODBINE said: We all tend to forget that John Key did not take a salary during his time as Prime Minister This was a large sacrifice also practiced by Donald J Trump. and got called a rich prick for his trouble Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 He had no problem giving $15 m taxpayer money to the Clinton foundation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Not knocking Sir Key , he wasn't given life on a plate , I think PM seems underpaid compared to other public officials . However Ive never seen a real answer on that no salary . Only indication portion to charity , well most of us do a bit for charity or volunteer work or give money . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOODBINE 88 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 Red Rum John Key did not come from a privileged background (please read his bio) and he had to work very hard for his subsequent success. John’s background is typical of many successful NZers they come from humble backgrounds and don’t have chips on their shoulders. I first came across John when he worked for the accounting firm Touché Ross in Christchurch shortly after graduation i was a partner in Touche Ross and he attended a TR Conference for new graduates that I was a presenter at. He impressed me as a quality young professional who would be an exceptional achiever in whatever profession is choose to be in. I also remember being at a Governance Institute of Australia annual dinner several years ago ( I represented Governance NZ) the guest speaker Peter Fitzsimmons was publicly championing John Key as the Australian Prime Minster to a dinner table of quality Australians. I was very proud to be a NZ er that night. At a community function where John was guest speaker shortly before National came to power I was asked to give the vote of thanks to John I said to him “I want to thank you for coming home to NZ to make a difference....” He spoke to me later saying that he had never received such words and I stand by them today. John and Jacinda are both outstanding NZers and leaders who have been noted offshore for their qualities and activism. In respect of our racing industry problems I believe that NZRB and the codes have needed leaders with a bullying / critical style to get things done. Peter V’landys of Racing NSW appears to have such a style and in NZ Michael Stiassny would have been a very effective CEO of NZRB rather than its Chairman tasman man 11, Gruff and Stables 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, WOODBINE said: Red Rum John Key did not come from a privileged background (please read his bio) and he had to work very hard for his subsequent success. John’s background is typical of many successful NZers they come from humble backgrounds and don’t have chips on their shoulders. I first came across John when he worked for the accounting firm Touché Ross in Christchurch shortly after graduation i was a partner in Touche Ross and he attended a TR Conference for new graduates that I was a presenter at. He impressed me as a quality young professional who would be an exceptional achiever in whatever profession is choose to be in. I also remember being at a Governance Institute of Australia annual dinner several years ago ( I represented Governance NZ) the guest speaker Peter Fitzsimmons was publicly championing John Key as the Australian Prime Minster to a dinner table of quality Australians. I was very proud to be a NZ er that night. At a community function where John was guest speaker shortly before National came to power I was asked to give the vote of thanks to John I said to him “I want to thank you for coming home to NZ to make a difference....” He spoke to me later saying that he had never received such words and I stand by them today. John and Jacinda are both outstanding NZers and leaders who have been noted offshore for their qualities and activism. In respect of our racing industry problems I believe that NZRB and the codes have needed leaders with a bullying / critical style to get things done. Peter V’landys of Racing NSW appears to have such a style and in NZ Michael Stiassny would have been a very effective CEO of NZRB rather than its Chairman Not disputing any of those facts , as I posted in thread I am well aware life was not handed to him on a plate , he also imho didn't do too bad a job as PM through some tough times , I'd be a bewildered at a lunch if someone introduced him as Australian PM , I'd probably laugh to be polite . I think the Aussie's generally seem happy with Scomo at the moment as he navigates through , looks like sport back soon over there . Anyway , is that a definate that he didn't draw a wage at all during his time as PM , because good guy no doubt but that isn't the question . Don't get me wrong , he or she draws a wage as PM , they deserve every cent , should be paid more than 490k. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, WOODBINE said: Red Rum John Key did not come from a privileged background (please read his bio) and he had to work very hard for his subsequent success. John’s background is typical of many successful NZers they come from humble backgrounds and don’t have chips on their shoulders. I first came across John when he worked for the accounting firm Touché Ross in Christchurch shortly after graduation i was a partner in Touche Ross and he attended a TR Conference for new graduates that I was a presenter at. He impressed me as a quality young professional who would be an exceptional achiever in whatever profession is choose to be in. I also remember being at a Governance Institute of Australia annual dinner several years ago ( I represented Governance NZ) the guest speaker Peter Fitzsimmons was publicly championing John Key as the Australian Prime Minster to a dinner table of quality Australians. I was very proud to be a NZ er that night. At a community function where John was guest speaker shortly before National came to power I was asked to give the vote of thanks to John I said to him “I want to thank you for coming home to NZ to make a difference....” He spoke to me later saying that he had never received such words and I stand by them today. John and Jacinda are both outstanding NZers and leaders who have been noted offshore for their qualities and activism. In respect of our racing industry problems I believe that NZRB and the codes have needed leaders with a bullying / critical style to get things done. Peter V’landys of Racing NSW appears to have such a style and in NZ Michael Stiassny would have been a very effective CEO of NZRB rather than its Chairman Peter Fitzsimmon's very very anti racing , he wants it gone . Fiercely critical of all aspects of the sport . Very clever and entertaining bloke though . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 I saw him give a speech to the Australian Chamber of Commerce years ago, the audience was full of top business leaders that day. John covered all aspects of Government and Economics.... No notes, everything from memory, quoting numbers, figures and other statistics with ease in his own down to earth style. It was a pleasure to watch and made you proud that he was representing New Zealand. The audience gave him a standing ovation at the end. Recognised quality when they saw it. napier, Pam Robson, Red Rum and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, WOODBINE said: We all tend to forget that John Key did not take a salary during his time as Prime Minister This was a large sacrifice also practiced by Donald J Trump. Hardly a comparison is it.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 3 hours ago, TurnyTom said: Or, hold rates to zero and manage their expenditure much better - CCC think ratepayers have a bottomless pocket and we simply do not The Press quoted recently that there were more than 530 people at CCC on $100,000 or more....apart from that mind boggling figure, you have to wonder what all these people actually do..... Red Rum 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: I saw him give a speech to the Australian Chamber of Commerce years ago, the audience was full of top business leaders that day. John covered all aspects of Government and Economics.... No notes, everything from memory, quoting numbers, figures and other statistics with ease in his own down to earth style. It was a pleasure to watch and made you proud that he was representing New Zealand. The audience gave him a standing ovation at the end. The catwalk weren't so good OM , but better than the tin spaghetti pizza his mate cooked up. He dealt with some real tough stuff as PM , like the PM today , wages seem a little light for steering the ship last 10 or so years . Just unsure of the no drawing of the wages situation . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,551 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 20 hours ago, Red Rum said: The catwalk weren't so good OM , but better than the tin spaghetti pizza his mate cooked up. He dealt with some real tough stuff as PM , like the PM today , wages seem a little light for steering the ship last 10 or so years . Just unsure of the no drawing of the wages situation . The ' pay cut' discussion seems a little premature. Heard a discourse on the radio yesterday from an invited guest, who informed listeners that ministerial salaries are set by a body whose name escapes me, but is chaired by Fran Wilde. It isn't possible just to 'cut pay', it has to be legislated for. Probably similar for councils, etc. That doesn't of course, stop ministers - or any public servant for that matter - donating some, or all, as John Key did , to charities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, Pam Robson said: The ' pay cut' discussion seems a little premature. Heard a discourse on the radio yesterday from an invited guest, who informed listeners that ministerial salaries are set by a body whose name escapes me, but is chaired by Fran Wilde. It isn't possible just to 'cut pay', it has to be legislated for. Probably similar for councils, etc. That doesn't of course, stop ministers - or any public servant for that matter - donating some, or all, as John Key did , to charities. Remuneration Authority I think Pam.....another job for the boys and girls. Have never seen the salaries go down have you....? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,136 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 9:27 AM, Red Rum said: She still earns more than the PM , let's hope she still works hard to trim the fat off the councils bloated spending and largesse . No chance with the left wing council and mayor. Greg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: No chance with the left wing council and mayor. Greg Used to be in old country Labour fill up their and their union cronies bank balances and in end that finishes their time in power , conservatives fill up their bank balances and have sex scandals as well , like MPs tied up found dead with stockings and suspenders with an orange stuffed in mouth . No not Monty Python sketch poor old Stephen Milligan. Not one to read before breakfast . JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...