Insider 3,943 Report post Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Leggy said: Why is it stopped? Ask IRT or NZB Airfreight, they will be able to tell you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,341 Report post Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Leggy said: Why is it stopped? Because the flying grooms were no longer classed as flying crew which meant weeks in quarantine at both ends of flights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted April 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, rdytdy said: Because the flying grooms were no longer classed as flying crew which meant weeks in quarantine at both ends of flights. That doesn't have to stop it does it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
napier 339 Report post Posted April 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, Leggy said: That doesn't have to stop it does it? Im sure OP would be happy enough to be a flying groom... Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepers 276 Report post Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, rdytdy said: Because the flying grooms were no longer classed as flying crew which meant weeks in quarantine at both ends of flights. Correct. Until NZ moves into level 2 will this possibly be resolved and then it is expected that Trans Tasman horse flights may commence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted April 20, 2020 7 hours ago, nomates said: Last thing , as for racing , yet again your lack of understanding of the big picture . The damage to racing has been done over the last couple of decades , the last straw has been happening for people that long . Every year people have gone that's the last straw for them and their out . More people have got out of racing in the last 10 years than are presently still in it . Don't try and lump this on Labour as well we had 9 with your buddies in charge and more damage was done in that time than any other . BS! The Racing Minister is not responsible for Racing. The Industry itself is responsible. Labour or National - is not the problem. The Industry has stuffed itself! TurnyTom 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoyd 165 Report post Posted April 21, 2020 In my opinion Bridges is the most annoying and incompetent party leader in my time following politics in NZ. Peters summed him up perfectly " He is just like a badly bred dog that barks every time something moves." The good news is that we won't have to put up with him for too much longer. Stables, Baz (NZ) and Grego 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,943 Report post Posted April 21, 2020 20 hours ago, Trump said: BS! The Racing Minister is not responsible for Racing. The Industry itself is responsible. Labour or National - is not the problem. The Industry has stuffed itself! Disagree 100%. The Racing Act has destroyed it to start with....Thank you Mr Chittick and team. Then National and a team of useless Racing Ministers plus their pathetic appointments of CEO’s over their nine years in government say it all. Liz hedley, Baz (NZ), ADM and 1 other 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Insider said: Disagree 100%. The Racing Act has destroyed it to start with....Thank you Mr Chittick and team. Then National and a team of useless Racing Ministers plus their pathetic appointments of CEO’s over their nine years in government say it all. Liz Mr Chittick? What was his calling when he did what you are thanking him for? As I said, “The Racing Industry is responsible” for the mess it’s in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,553 Report post Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/21/2020 at 12:02 AM, Trump said: BS! The Racing Minister is not responsible for Racing. The Industry itself is responsible. Labour or National - is not the problem. The Industry has stuffed itself! I absolve racing of none of the responsibility for its current position , but decades of poor political appointments to the board , then their crap CEO appointments has been nothing more than an abject failure . If the racing minister is not responsible for racing then why is he called the minister for racing ? Perhaps if there hadn't been such poor political appointments on the board with subsequent poor appointments to CEO then racing might not be in quite so bad a position . Racings biggest failure has been our own complacency in continually allowing these crap political appointments to have such a detrimental effect on our sport and not fighting back . For that we have no one to blame but ourselves . Insider, Leggy and Baz (NZ) 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, nomates said: I absolve racing of none of the responsibility for its current position , but decades of poor political appointments to the board , then their crap CEO appointments has been nothing more than an abject failure . If the racing minister is not responsible for racing then why is he called the minister for racing ? Perhaps if there hadn't been such poor political appointments on the board with subsequent poor appointments to CEO then racing might not be in quite so bad a position . Racings biggest failure has been our own complacency in continually allowing these crap political appointments to have such a detrimental effect on our sport and not fighting back . For that we have no one to blame but ourselves . You last two sentences says it all!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,095 Report post Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 11:17 PM, jeepers said: Correct. Until NZ moves into level 2 will this possibly be resolved and then it is expected that Trans Tasman horse flights may commence. What about moving horses internally. How will that work when a horse is spelling outside its "area"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,553 Report post Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Trump said: You last two sentences says it all!!! A bit harsh to suggest that racing is 100% the maker of it's own demise . Just as not all the politicians fault . People in all walks of life like to hope that their politicians will get it right some/most of the time , racing shares in the blame is for not reacting to the continual string of poor political appointments . Simply can't be all racings fault because there IS political decisions made about racing . Again i ask , if the racing minister is not responsible for racing then why does he have the title of minister for racing ? , and so then what are his responsibilities within that portfolio if not the welfare of the racing industry ? . Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,095 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Ministers may have a number of responsibilities but very few are ever held accountable. nomates and Insider 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Surely we have elections to make politicians accountable for their performance Insider, Gruff and Leggy 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 6 hours ago, nomates said: Again i ask , if the racing minister is not responsible for racing then why does he have the title of minister for racing ? , and so then what are his responsibilities within that portfolio if not the welfare of the racing industry ? . His responsibilities are set out in the Racing Act. Read that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Have any of you read "Is the Lockdown unlaw" UK HumanRights blog where respected Lords have written there opinions and interpretation of The Public Health Act & State of Emergency intent of laws?? It's well worth reading. Note the lockdown & restrictions are been challenged in UK for valid reasons. When people mislead others to claim a pandemic without factoring into account the intent of laws those people must be held to account. Since when have we been"lawless" in the world? Look up basic common laws that we live with every day, speak up and do what you usually do. Whilst you are at it , read "Setting the rules in the new world: Keep checking your temperature, don't stand too close, eat alone & wear your mask - or else that was in the NZ Herald on Friday 13 March 2020. I believe we live in NZ not China contrary to the idiots who are pushing there "model" on us. Great piece by Ray Avery in todays news about Shaun Hendy Patiti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Also look up Shaun HENDY #NOFLY Same moron who did maths modelling for Covid19... Go figure, line up the duck eggs...hold him & his associates to account . Patiti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,943 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Stables said: Surely we have elections to make politicians accountable for their performance Yes we do, but over the first 6 years of National they were preoccupied with many things including the Christchurch Earthquake so Racing obviously let it slide. However Racing finally woke up in the end and effected change two years ago. Unfortunately the mess that they [National, their Ministers and their appointments] left behind may be irreparable. Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Insider said: effected change two years ago What is this referring to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,943 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Patiti said: What is this referring to? Changed the Government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,341 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Insider said: Changed the Government. And look at us now......hasn't taken long. Totally Fu*ked. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted April 22, 2020 Minister of Racing directed distributions to stay at previous level when it was a obvious we were in strife already. If Dean was up to the task he would have advised otherwise and not been blind sided by John Allen's glib passing off his new platform as a game changer. Baz (NZ), Insider and Leggy 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...