CT"s 310 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 This owner of Alligator Blood Allan Endresz has a very interesting history . Has an excellent track record of finding loopholes. Anyone else thing he’ll get off this one after failing 2 samples? https://www.afr.com/rear-window/almost-bankrupt-allan-s-dark-horse-20190528-p51rvu Maximus 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackPoonDrinkGoon 93 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 No chance. Owners one of the biggest nut case’s I’ve ever seen. Check out his Twitter, it’s not pretty. Not Mr Vandyke’s first positive either. CT"s 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, BackPoonDrinkGoon said: No chance. Owners one of the biggest nut case’s I’ve ever seen. Check out his Twitter, it’s not pretty. Not Mr Vandyke’s first positive either. I think short stuff would have some interesting conversations with this character. Certainly not the type of person I would be wanting to go into business with. Seems to know the law inside and out having been through the legal system several times. Also seems very desperate, using every loophole available to him to ensure the failed 2nd sample doesn’t stick and he gets to keep the loot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 Regumate on geldings , is that normal ?? Seems odd there's a legit reason . Clearly iam lacking on medical knowledge but iam sure geldings don't come into season and I thought that's the reason for that drug to regulate it. CT"s 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,947 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 I think that I have read that it was probably used to ‘quieten him down’ after or during his horrific float journey to the Gold Coast MM Race. Everyone will remember that, because it was played out live on the day and was then well reported after his win. (Not the drugs but everything else.) Only saying, Liz Memphis2 and Red Rum 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,947 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, CT"s said: Indeed. Seems pretty cut and dried to me Red Rum although if George Pell can get off anything’s possible! What are you trying to say about George Pell? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Insider said: I think that I have read that it was probably used to ‘quieten him down’ after or during his horrific float journey to the Gold Coast MM Race. Everyone will remember that, because it was played out live on the day and was then well reported after his win. (Not the drugs but everything else.) Only saying, Liz This drug seems quite controversial overseas when googled , banned in some places because of the steroids . Looks like a fiery case upcoming . CT"s 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Red Rum said: This drug seems quite controversial overseas when googled , banned in some places because of the steroids . Looks like a fiery case upcoming . Apparently no horse have ever had a disqualification overturned after 2 failed samples. If he succeeds he’ll set a new precedent and no doubt open a can of worms of previous disqualifications which they will try to avoid at all costs. Agree Red Rum. This is going to get very messy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillipe 81 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 I thought the analogy was quite humorous. You would only be offended if you didn’t like the person who said it or you didn’t want to be in the spotlight. Which is possibly where Mr Pell could be. CT"s 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 11 hours ago, CT"s said: I always thought you were ignorant Liz. This only proves my point. Hardly the way to talk to a lady regardless of how you might view her opinion. GOM, Insider and Black Kirrama 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, poundforpound said: Seven High Court judges unanimously dismissed those unsafe charges and convictions.....that’s seven to nil......and the Victorian Police have laid 26 charges against George Pell so far.....and NOT ONE has been successful.....although I note they’ve boldly claimed they’re investigating another complaint I know you’re a filthy low “James Hunt” and we have very low expectations with you, very low indeed, but if Scooby has any reasonable values he should ban you for this disgusting and unjustified comment ..... Don’t worry short stuff. The truth always comes out in the end. Next thing you’ll telling me OJ Simpson was innocent. Edited April 15, 2020 by scooby3051 Last warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, CT"s said: Don’t worry short stuff. The truth always comes out in the end. 26 charges and rising. Not even a staunch Catholic like you can deny what’s happened here? Next thing you’ll telling me OJ Simpson was innocent. He was innocent in criminal court CT , civil case went differently on balance of probabilities .On the balance of probabilies though I wouldn't argue with him as he carves up the Chicken for dinner . CT"s 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 Just now, CT"s said: I just feel for the 26 victims after that verdict was read Red Rum. This is isn’t over yet though, not by a long shot. To be honest I've read little about it so don't know , only thing is we have to abide by court verdicts ,. As for AB , two samples positive surely he goes . No different to contaminated feed in most jurisdictions , or in Hughie Morrisons case a stable hand having a habit of peeing in a certain box at yard . The horse goes , trainer cops it normally but penalty adjusted as per whatever is on the rule books in jurisdiction . I think few years ago Red Mills sent out whole contaminated batch in Ireland , all the horses disqualified and trainers sanctioned only on paper to comply with regs . Discharge without conviction kind of thing . CT"s 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 451 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 Endresz, googled him, found that he will appeal alright, claims his horse has been knobbled. Interesting times ahead. CT"s 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, Red Rum said: To be honest I've read little about it so don't know , only thing is we have to abide by court verdicts ,. As for AB , two samples positive surely he goes . No different to contaminated feed in most jurisdictions , or in Hughie Morrisons case a stable hand having a habit of peeing in a certain box at yard . The horse goes , trainer cops it normally but penalty adjusted as per whatever is on the rule books in jurisdiction . I think few years ago Red Mills sent out whole contaminated batch in Ireland , all the horses disqualified and trainers sanctioned only on paper to comply with regs . Discharge without conviction kind of thing . Short stuff is normally quick to defend these type of allegations with his veterinarian background. It’s very interesting he’s chosen to defend Pell while completely ignoring Endresz. I think his silence on the matter speaks volumes. Judging by his history within the legal system this Endresz character will use every judicial defence in his repertoire. He will down fighting, that is for sure and certain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,341 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 I am no vet but my understanding is that Regumate (Altrenogest) is not a performance enhancing drug. Rather It is a hormone testosterone suppressant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus 429 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 i dont see how any argument that AB was given Regumate to calm him down can be acceptable in the eyes of the law. Its use on male horses is illegal End of story. As for Mr Endresz, his history makes p4p's battles with the law look very modest ...a point that, if correct, would no doubt rankle any litigous narcissist scoobysnacks 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted April 15, 2020 Can't believe we are talking about Priests on this site. But for what it is worth I believe a big factor in Pell getting off was that because of the media interest in his case he would not have gotten a far trial. That does not mine he did not commit these low life crimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 4 hours ago, CT"s said: Don’t worry short stuff. The truth always comes out in the end. Next thing you’ll telling me OJ Simpson was innocent. Can you please advise Leigh what the final warning is for just so I’m clear? I don’t agree with the High Court verdict along with several million other Australians and indeed others around the world. Am I not allowed to have that opinion? arjay 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 451 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 Appears not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 16, 2020 Some threads really morph like a transformer , Bankrupt or almost Bankrupt owner has horse with drug in system that regulates female reproduction cycle whilst currently idenfying as a male horse with no balls onto a court case in Australia onto some kind of Vatican money laundering situation . My pea sized mind boggles during these days of no pubs or tabs to go to during downtime . Cubes and CT"s 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted May 7, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 4:28 AM, poundforpound said: Seven High Court judges unanimously dismissed those unsafe charges and convictions.....that’s seven to nil......and the Victorian Police have laid 26 charges against George Pell so far.....and NOT ONE has been successful.....although I note they’ve boldly claimed they’re investigating another complaint I know you’re a filthy low “James Hunt” and we have very low expectations with you, very low indeed, but if Scooby has any reasonable values he should ban you for this disgusting and unjustified comment ..... Here’s an interesting article for you and Liz to read together short stuff about your friend Mr Pell. https://apple.news/AoAKziXNITRe_3LB6ot6gDQ arjay 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted May 7, 2020 On 4/15/2020 at 7:18 PM, Insider said: What are you trying to say about George Pell? I think it’s obvious what I’m trying to say about Mr Pell. https://apple.news/AoAKziXNITRe_3LB6ot6gDQ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...