Barry Lichter 179 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/best-case-scenario-three-gallops-meetings-a-week-from-july-1-with-lower-stakes/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 Surprised a few geldings from a Wexford clear out sold on Gavelhouse , one a pensioner but all have ability .Went for ok prices all things considered .Maybe there will be some green shoots of recovery , fingers crossed . Hope those buying now get all the luck they deserve with purchases for keeping going . Good on them . Black Kirrama, Insider and shaneMcAlister 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 Stipes need not travel to meetings. Perhaps its time to create a remote centralized stipe centre servicing both Australia and New Zealand or even stipes operating from home. RIU should be mothballed for 12 months and just voluntary help say from retired persons used. GOM, shaneMcAlister, chelseacol and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterEd 332 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, slam dunk said: Stipes need not travel to meetings. Perhaps its time to create a remote centralized stipe centre servicing both Australia and New Zealand or even stipes operating from home. RIU should be mothballed for 12 months and just voluntary help say from retired persons used. Thats what should happen but it won't. Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, MisterEd said: Thats what should happen but it won't. Well I'll try something else. It costs close to $1000 maybe bit less for photo finish services per race meeting. This is a service Trackside people could do without much extra cost. Logistic wise makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer 296 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 Instant Photo finishs like in OZ, would be a start. slam dunk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,089 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, slam dunk said: Stipes need not travel to meetings. Perhaps its time to create a remote centralized stipe centre servicing both Australia and New Zealand or even stipes operating from home. RIU should be mothballed for 12 months and just voluntary help say from retired persons used. Yes, maybe go back to club stewards performing the role? Or volunteers as you say. There's no funding for the RIU with no pokies anyway. That said, here needs to be punter confidence in race day integrity functions. Pam Robson and Huey 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,541 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 A good start, could have been a hell of a lot worse - fingers crossed it happens, my jury is still out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,089 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Barry Lichter said: https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/best-case-scenario-three-gallops-meetings-a-week-from-july-1-with-lower-stakes/ "stakes will be “flatter” - read lower" Not sure how you reach that conclusion Barry. Lower at the top end I'd say to fund the free racing and maintain minimum stakes. A beginning towards aligning stakes with wagering earnings that those stakes generate which is as it long since should have been. Huey, Pam Robson, arjay and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Lichter 179 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 Agree Leggy, Stakes will be lower at the top end. NZTR chairman Dr Alan Jackson has already said there will be no reduction to minimum stakes but you can bet most of the rest will drop. dock leaf and Leggy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 Jockeys will need to be first consideration. Keeping themselves fit and involved with the possibility of only a few rides will need some sort of contract payments. Therefore NZTR pays jockeys on weekly basis starting almost now. No jockey fees for owners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,702 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 Be interesting to see if the 3 meeting are all held on the same day. Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,541 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, crustyngrizzly said: Be interesting to see if the 3 meeting are all held on the same day. They won't be, Saturday Tuesday Wednesday Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,702 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, TurnyTom said: They won't be, Saturday Tuesday Wednesday That would possibly mean the top jocks getting plenty of rides and others near the bottom getting a few if any. arjay 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,541 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, crustyngrizzly said: That would possibly mean the top jocks getting plenty of rides and others near the bottom getting a few if any. There won't be travel, it will be totally local - Riccarton, Awapuni, Hamilton no where else crustyngrizzly 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter R S 412 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 Jockeys as self employed contractors have 12 weeks subsidy in their bank accounts. That gives some breathing space for them. crustyngrizzly, Black Kirrama, Pam Robson and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, TurnyTom said: They won't be, Saturday Tuesday Wednesday Does that leave Thursday Friday Sunday for the harness. Greyhounds any day that suits them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,866 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 5 hours ago, slam dunk said: Stipes need not travel to meetings. Perhaps its time to create a remote centralized stipe centre servicing both Australia and New Zealand or even stipes operating from home. RIU should be mothballed for 12 months and just voluntary help say from retired persons used. The 'bunker"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Bukowski 411 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 5 hours ago, slam dunk said: Well I'll try something else. It costs close to $1000 maybe bit less for photo finish services per race meeting. This is a service Trackside people could do without much extra cost. Logistic wise makes sense. How many Trackside cameras are on the line or anywhere near the finishing line Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdt 293 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 I would have thought 3 meetings a week in July would be a very good start given that it will be the middle of Winter. Many on here (Racecafe) over the years have expressed the view that there should be no racing at all in June/July. I think we will all love the return of racing in New Zealand as soon as possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Charlie Bukowski said: How many Trackside cameras are on the line or anywhere near the finishing line Never said using trackside cameras. Just them doing the photofinish. i.e. one single trip by one set of people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBlackie 128 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 11 hours ago, We're Doomed said: The 'bunker"? Good call that. In USA I’ve seen a phone line down to the jocks on the track who they ring to get their defence or otherwise, and make a call within minutes, game over. With technology nowadays there is no need to be there physically. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, CosmicBlackie said: Good call that. In USA I’ve seen a phone line down to the jocks on the track who they ring to get their defence or otherwise, and make a call within minutes, game over. With technology nowadays there is no need to be there physically. True - but must be nice jetting round the country and eating and drinking on the industry .... kind of what I've done for 25 years, but largely paid all the costs myself and turned over a small fortune through the tote and paid for horses and jockeys and trainers etc etc.... mmmm how does one get a job as a stipe or on RIU ...??? Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...