slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, tasman man 11 said: FFS.....you really are a waste of space ! So losing $100,000 in one hit when unemployment figures going through the roof "great achievement" You seem the type of person that just can't accept criticism when confronted. Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,831 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, tasman man 11 said: I'm sure those at the helm will appreciate it that you can see the problem OM.....and I see in an earlier post that your picks would have been far more successful etc etc Its kind of this attitude that motivates me and others to get involved with BGP who have brought a whole new dimension to racing and in particular enhanced the on-course experience. And why the movement is doing more to interest the lost generation of younger folk back into racing ,than anything else I have seen for a long while. Yesterday ,the kitty was lost , it was Day 2 , for $105 per share I thought it good value.....Interest in two afternoons racing of the very best Group racing in Australia. I for one , otherwise would not have had a bet other than the BGP interest. Reading the smugness and negativity of your views ,maybe myself and other members should indeed just give up ,withdraw and put no more $$ thru the NZTAB. And BGP should disband and inform the growing membership. NZ Racing will well and truly be finished then. Your wishes will come true. Smug prick aren’t we ? I’ve never said BGP was a bad thing, show me where I have and I’ll apologise. My point, as I said previously but you obviously chose to ignore it, was that anyone could have done the research I did to get 8 winners yesterday. Using the shotgun approach very rarely works, and listening to other “expert” tips rarely does either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,535 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 Fuck you must be smiling Dave 8 winners at Royal Randwick on a heavish track, well done Gruff and tasman man 11 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,793 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 OM has a point, Collette stood out like Dogsballs but Heart over Head went Probabeel, nothing wrong with that. Hindsight is a wonderful thing in this game .... what about Jamekas Full brother Grand Slam $5.50 on Thursday in the first at the roomy Morphetville... this horse looks like making the grade over ground Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockers 200 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Smug prick aren’t we ? I’ve never said BGP was a bad thing, show me where I have and I’ll apologise. My point, as I said previously but you obviously chose to ignore it, was that anyone could have done the research I did to get 8 winners yesterday. Using the shotgun approach very rarely works, and listening to other “expert” tips rarely does either. 8 winners the day after the event. Well.done champ. Show us the proof. tasman man 11 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMD is rife 211 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dockers said: 8 winners the day after the event. Well.done champ. Show us the proof. I think what he includes in his research is reading the race results at the end of the day. tasman man 11 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 575 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 Disclaimer: I am a member of BGP, got the polo shirt, wear the hat etc. So I could be bias. Note I was not in the punter's club however. The punter's club that ran over the last two weekends, was labelled "the spirit lifter" - in these times of bugger all on, it was an opportunity for those that wanted to, to throw some coin in, grab a share and have some entertainment. The first week returned a good result, $139-$140 per ($100) share. The vast majority of the punter's club, wanted to "go again", the following week. I think from memory only 7-8 people pulled out after week 1. It was very clearly stated, prior to signing up, that the purpose of the punter's club was to have some fun, there were no guarantees of any returns and also the importance of current situation, that potential participants give thought to their current financial position. Luke and the gang should be commended on advising this. Well done the lads for giving it a crack, and giving many people a bit of fun for a couple of weeks. rdytdy and JJ Flash 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,700 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 Gotta be honest,i have never had any fun losing money,horses,sharemarket,etc so i would obviously not be a contender for membership. d.burrow - Joan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rusty said: Disclaimer: I am a member of BGP, got the polo shirt, wear the hat etc. So I could be bias. Note I was not in the punter's club however. The punter's club that ran over the last two weekends, was labelled "the spirit lifter" - in these times of bugger all on, it was an opportunity for those that wanted to, to throw some coin in, grab a share and have some entertainment. The first week returned a good result, $139-$140 per ($100) share. The vast majority of the punter's club, wanted to "go again", the following week. I think from memory only 7-8 people pulled out after week 1. It was very clearly stated, prior to signing up, that the purpose of the punter's club was to have some fun, there were no guarantees of any returns and also the importance of current situation, that potential participants give thought to their current financial position. Luke and the gang should be commended on advising this. Well done the lads for giving it a crack, and giving many people a bit of fun for a couple of weeks. I’m not going to criticise any of these bets POST race Rusty as that’s not my style. One observation I’ve just made though which I think is a little concerning is Neil Davis tipping horses in Australia which has me scratching my head? If it was Matamata or Te Awamutu absolutely he’d be your man but Australia? I certainly wouldn’t be supporting a North Island NZ form analyst to make these decisions, especially when you’re betting 10’s of thousands of dollars on a race. That being said, I can see that one of the bets was placed based on Melbourne professional Jack Dickens advice which I would fully support. Someone needs to have a chat with Luke Kemeys about Neil Davis being in that position again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,341 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, slam dunk said: Congrats on not being involved. Perhaps the "old farts" have that bit of wisdom. Spending I believe $110,000 just not the right thing to do at this point in time. And for "a bit of fun" nonsensical. Particularly not on NZ racing. Bill Waterhouse the bookie that took on allcomers would have loved BGP. Expecting New Zealand form followers to somehow have the edge over Australian bookie prices borders on arrogance. I've seen the effort and commitment consistently winning punters put in. I once supplied harness data and video recordings to a group of Australian punters and it took them 6 months of study before they had their first bet. In that time they took several trips to NZ to establish contacts. Even blew me up for cutting off the start of races on the videos. This was before the videos were on the internet. Not decrying the 16,000 membership but still waiting for something really positive. Firstly, I wasn't involved as one of the selectors as such seeing it was Australian racing. I still went into the syndicate. There is no NZ racing at present and with people in lockdown it was decided to give people an interest and some entertainment. It was also pointed out prior to joining to be prudent and only do so if one could afford to do so. Perhaps if you did a bit of research on BGP you will clearly see plenty of positivity emanating from the group in a number of ways. shaneMcAlister, Rusty, Black Kirrama and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatime 323 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, slam dunk said: So losing $100,000 in one hit when unemployment figures going through the roof "great achievement" You seem the type of person that just can't accept criticism when confronted. In fairness to them they did point out to people to consider that we were going into very difficult times before they joined up. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,831 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, SMD is rife said: I think what he includes in his research is reading the race results at the end of the day. Anyone in the comp yesterday would already know this dickhead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,831 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Dockers said: 8 winners the day after the event. Well.done champ. Show us the proof. Try reading smart arse. Were you in the comp yesterday ???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackPoonDrinkGoon 93 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 They charged a $5 admin fee per entry, and will get 5k back from rebates, will they be investing the rebate $ for the members who joined? ( and don’t tell me those bets aren’t going thru an elite account, because we all know they are ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockers 200 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Ohokaman said: Try reading smart arse. Were you in the comp yesterday ???? So one out of your ten 1st picks won and you are claiming 8 winners? That's gold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 4 hours ago, rdytdy said: Firstly, I wasn't involved as one of the selectors as such seeing it was Australian racing. I still went into the syndicate. There is no NZ racing at present and with people in lockdown it was decided to give people an interest and some entertainment. It was also pointed out prior to joining to be prudent and only do so if one could afford to do so. Perhaps if you did a bit of research on BGP you will clearly see plenty of positivity emanating from the group in a number of ways. Love the BGP concept Ted but there’s nothing prudent about leaving Neil Davis in charge of punting 10’s of thousands of dollars of hard earned on Australian racing. You might as well have placed the whole lot on a bonfire prior to race 1. They seriously need to take a hard look at who they are trusting with punting the loot. Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT"s 310 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 47 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Two camps here....I’m taking sides...I’m with BGP all the way ...at least they’re having a go and adding some colour & value to the industry Disclosure, I’m not in BGP ( but I did join their FB page...then they wisely blocked me ) Of course they did short stuff. Minimum height 4’11” required. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,831 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Dockers said: So one out of your ten 1st picks won and you are claiming 8 winners? That's gold. Obviously as thick as I thought, try again moron. Picks were posted in numerical order, not preference. Rusty 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,831 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Got you now......so you’re like the Trackside presenter who picks six horses in every race .....then gets his colleague to heartily congratulate him after the event because “you labeled that one...well done, you’re on fire”....... Hardly my fault the comp wanted three picks is it short stuff....??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockers 200 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 Yes congrats. You picked them in numerical order so no proof 8 of which were picked as first pick. At least BGP showed everyone who they were backing with facts. As P4P said your on fire. Start up a tipping line for Randwick exclusively and watch the masses flock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,793 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 Im on the fence, but one thing is for sure theres two parts to making money off the horses, the first and decididly easier part of the equation is selection, but then comes the tricky part.. the spending of the hard earned ,and when theres 100 + k and alot of people involved this shit gets real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,831 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dockers said: Yes congrats. You picked them in numerical order so no proof 8 of which were picked as first pick. At least BGP showed everyone who they were backing with facts. As P4P said your on fire. Start up a tipping line for Randwick exclusively and watch the masses flock. What fucking difference does it make ? If you bet systems there is almost always more than one selection involved. Picking the winner is the important part....presumably something you know little about. Now piss off and pester someone who cares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,831 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gruff said: Im on the fence, but one thing is for sure theres two parts to making money off the horses, the first and decididly easier part of the equation is selection, but then comes the tricky part.. the spending of the hard earned ,and when theres 100 + k and alot of people involved this shit gets real Very true Gruffy. I will add that this was tempered with a few selections at Caulfield which all went tits up. Track bias, bad luck or rides, horses just not good enough....who knows ? Small margins sometimes..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,831 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 Some of you miserable twisted pricks need a bit of a lift....Con te Partiro must have been the omen bet after getting the email on this. Take a deep breath, get a coffee, sit and listen.....it’s worth it...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloppite 315 Report post Posted April 12, 2020 17 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Con te Partiro back to mares grade after the Doncaster was good value...she beat most of those two starts ago. When did Nettoyer ever win two in a row.....?? Yet you picked Nettoyer in the comp!? (before the race was run) You realise you're looking like a bigger benefit of hindsight genius than rdytdy, who I note was quick to disassociate himself from Saturday's BGP Punters Club performance - no "I" in team teddy! scoobysnacks and Gruff 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...