tripple alliance 1,005 Report post Posted March 30, 2020 Change will be huge , those in power will have a free hand to restructure the industry and there will be no choice but to go along with it . It might have been different if we had followed Ausse and remained open . The economy will struggle no matter what . We have lost a huge amount of overseas income , Education $5.1 billion , Forestry $5.8 and Tourism $16.3 billion , TOTAL $27.1 BILLION , gone for the time being . The only bright spot is farming , in 2019 Dairy $18.1 Billion , sheep and beef $4 billion and horticulture $6.1 billion , total $28.2 Billion . The bottom line is we will be around $28/38 billion short amongst the major exporters so financial troubles are ahead and race horse owners will be very hard to find . Restructuring seemed to be floundering but from now on it will be full steam ahead , there will be no other choice . Now a reality check , was the destruction of our economy worth it ? , remember Ausse , Sweden , Holland are still operating using a different strategy . Every WEEK in NZ an AVERAGE (2018) 641 die from every day events/life meaning since this event started around 2000 NZers have died . ONE , 1 , YES ONE 70 year old has died from the virus . dock leaf and Huey 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, tripple alliance said: Change will be huge , those in power will have a free hand to restructure the industry and there will be no choice but to go along with it . It might have been different if we had followed Ausse and remained open . The economy will struggle no matter what . We have lost a huge amount of overseas income , Education $5.1 billion , Forestry $5.8 and Tourism $16.3 billion , TOTAL $27.1 BILLION , gone for the time being . The only bright spot is farming , in 2019 Dairy $18.1 Billion , sheep and beef $4 billion and horticulture $6.1 billion , total $28.2 Billion . The bottom line is we will be around $28/38 billion short amongst the major exporters so financial troubles are ahead and race horse owners will be very hard to find . Restructuring seemed to be floundering but from now on it will be full steam ahead , there will be no other choice . Now a reality check , was the destruction of our economy worth it ? , remember Ausse , Sweden , Holland are still operating using a different strategy . Every WEEK in NZ an AVERAGE (2018) 641 die from every day events/life meaning since this event started around 2000 NZers have died . ONE , 1 , YES ONE 70 year old has died from the virus . Hey triple i wonder how many have died in NZ during the last week, youd expect that figure to be the only positive, but it sounded like that poor woman was doomed anyway. Carry on as per usual except for those over retirement age and /or immunicompromised was the right move. The antibodies from Sars are still detectable in those recovered 17 years ago according to Science , if we do this everytime a new bug comes along were f%#ked anyway. Relying on Big Pharma IS NOT the way forward involving viruses,they have killed and harmed untold people with their experiments and its only a matter of time before their ‘bungling ‘ creates another Disaster. Most if not all drugs today have a plant based origin, and two of the big four surrounding Heart function were discovered by ordinary people hundreds of years ago. Follow the money trail, they want you sick, theres no money in it for them otherwise napier, Insider, GOM and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,005 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 12:17 PM, tripple alliance said: Change will be huge , those in power will have a free hand to restructure the industry and there will be no choice but to go along with it . It might have been different if we had followed Ausse and remained open . The economy will struggle no matter what . We have lost a huge amount of overseas income , Education $5.1 billion , Forestry $5.8 and Tourism $16.3 billion , TOTAL $27.1 BILLION , gone for the time being . The only bright spot is farming , in 2019 Dairy $18.1 Billion , sheep and beef $4 billion and horticulture $6.1 billion , total $28.2 Billion . The bottom line is we will be around $28/38 billion short amongst the major exporters so financial troubles are ahead and race horse owners will be very hard to find . Restructuring seemed to be floundering but from now on it will be full steam ahead , there will be no other choice . Now a reality check , was the destruction of our economy worth it ? , remember Ausse , Sweden , Holland are still operating using a different strategy . Every WEEK in NZ an AVERAGE (2018) 641 die from every day events/life meaning since this event started around 2000 NZers have died . ONE , 1 , YES ONE 70 year old has died from the virus . Time for an update and for racing it's not looking pretty . There is talk of extending restrictions which means it could be 5/6 months if we are lucky before racing can return in NZ . Take a look at the stats in Ausse , population 27million . Yesterday the infection rate fell to 6% , their EARLY trend is down and they are starting to feel pretty smug . They did have the early disaster when a cruse ship unloaded about 3000 partly infected tourists into Sydney so they started from behind . Ausses have a wide variety of restrictions but pie carts on the side of the road are open again , and RACING CONTINUES . In NZ in the last 7 days around 650 NZers will have died of life in general , STILL ONLY 1 YES ONE from this virus . We are now obsessed with eradicating this virus instead of controlling it , HOW DID M BOVIS work out in cattle , that was going to be eradicated , a $100 mill later and still going . Cindy still won't control the boarders , new arrivals not tested or locked down , they can go anywhere so how can we possibly eradicate if we don't even control the boarders . Given NZs population is not as condensed as the big city's around the world there is plenty of opportunity to lift restrictions in a controlled way and events like racing , butcher shops , green groceries , etc to open in a controlled manor . Keep the 2 mtr distance and look after those who may be vulnerable , then open up and save many from financial ruin . So far the death of ONE woman will bankrupt this country and reduce us to Venezuela if we don't change direction and loosed the draconian , financially crippling restrictions . Insider, Huey, arjay and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 There’s plenty not following the lockdown restrictions and what do they get a friendly warning from the cops and none of them run businesses it’s a flipping joke .Either lock the F ers up or drop back to level 3 so we can get back to work. dock leaf, Insider and Huey 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterEd 323 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, tripple alliance said: Time for an update and for racing it's not looking pretty . There is talk of extending restrictions which means it could be 5/6 months if we are lucky before racing can return in NZ . Take a look at the stats in Ausse , population 27million . Yesterday the infection rate fell to 6% , their EARLY trend is down and they are starting to feel pretty smug . They did have the early disaster when a cruse ship unloaded about 3000 partly infected tourists into Sydney so they started from behind . Ausses have a wide variety of restrictions but pie carts on the side of the road are open again , and RACING CONTINUES . In NZ in the last 7 days around 650 NZers will have died of life in general , STILL ONLY 1 YES ONE from this virus . We are now obsessed with eradicating this virus instead of controlling it , HOW DID M BOVIS work out in cattle , that was going to be eradicated , a $100 mill later and still going . Cindy still won't control the boarders , new arrivals not tested or locked down , they can go anywhere so how can we possibly eradicate if we don't even control the boarders . Given NZs population is not as condensed as the big city's around the world there is plenty of opportunity to lift restrictions in a controlled way and events like racing , butcher shops , green groceries , etc to open in a controlled manor . Keep the 2 mtr distance and look after those who may be vulnerable , then open up and save many from financial ruin . So far the death of ONE woman will bankrupt this country and reduce us to Venezuela if we don't change direction and loosed the draconian , financially crippling restrictions . Probably too late already. Plenty of businesses will not survive the lockdown period and what business would want to risk borrowing cash flow with a bleak outlook ahead for the next 6 months and possibly longer. Insolvencies will skyrocket and the only business I would want to own is a supermarket as long as people still have the money to buy food Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerula 1,389 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 TA was it worth closing the economy. NO. People in the at risk category (age or impairment) should have been in lockdown. Returnees in controlled quarantine and those with CV and there associates in policed quarantine. This thing should be smashed before winter. They have rooted the economy trying to be kind. dock leaf, napier, puha and 2 others 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 now we are getting circulars in the letterbox inviting us to get out and walk - got one yesterday that said "enjoy sex at 65" - well I live at 78 so that is not too far to walk! Red Rum, Pegasus 9, tasman man 11 and 9 others 1 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkledragga 229 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, MisterEd said: Probably too late already. Plenty of businesses will not survive the lockdown period and what business would want to risk borrowing cash flow with a bleak outlook ahead for the next 6 months and possibly longer. Insolvencies will skyrocket and the only business I would want to own is a supermarket as long as people still have the money to buy food What goods will be sold? Nothing from china , no imports fullstop ,killing more people will not fix that.racing in nz is coming back in july hopefully and realistically imports might start back at the same time.Just a little patience is all we need, then more of us can get back to work , more of us can get back to punting rather than killing thousands in the name of expediency.Because the WORLD is in the same boat we have NO OTHER CHOICE but to ride it out as best we can and ffs stop moaning about it. TurnyTom, Insider and shaneMcAlister 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,084 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 Actually Nuks I think China will be up and running first and imports will flood in from there. Cant afford to make same stuff here without charging megabucks, that's why companys moved offshore and we got the cheap imports. Could easily be wrong though. Certainly going to be interesting to see how a new economy takes shape. Like any game there's always winners and losers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus 9 511 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Blue said: Actually Nuks I think China will be up and running first and imports will flood in from there. Cant afford to make same stuff here without charging megabucks, that's why companys moved offshore and we got the cheap imports. Could easily be wrong though. Certainly going to be interesting to see how a new economy takes shape. Like any game there's always winners and losers. Yes and won’t China be reaping the rewards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 That was their main game - many are saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus 9 511 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Trump said: That was their main game - many are saying. Yes and haven’t they played it very well. Had a couple of practice shots and then.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkledragga 229 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, Blue said: Actually Nuks I think China will be up and running first and imports will flood in from there. Cant afford to make same stuff here without charging megabucks, that's why companys moved offshore and we got the cheap imports. Could easily be wrong though. Certainly going to be interesting to see how a new economy takes shape. Like any game there's always winners and losers. They can make as much as they like but until the ports and shipping get back to normal no- one has any advantage.I work as a builder and I know there is a limited supply of nails, screws, nuts and bolts that I need to keep working and prior to the lockdown my colleagues were not just panic buying toilet paper!!!. We might get back to normal but we will be on a knife edge for sure . Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...