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11 minutes ago, Gruff said:

No doubt. 14 % of people carry Sars 2 with no symptoms, One pitfall of very condensed populations,add elderly and/or sick to that equation the numbers have to look scarey. Harvard epidemiology professor Mark  Lipsitch who has been quite accurate from his early assessment says 70 % of the worlds population could be infected and this will become the 5th seasonal flu, these flus have multiple Ribonucleuicacid strands not singular so will mutate beyond Human interference. Look up Hydoxychloroquine, it seems effective in its ability to stop this virus but interferes with hundreds of drugs prescribed to manage already sick people, not to mention its side effects. 

Wouldn’t be hanging my hat on that stuff. American Doctor on yesterday mentioned a test study done where those on this drug did worse than those not on it.....that French testing is bullshit.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/27/we-dont-know-hydroxychloroquine/

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Im up near Mangawhai, theres 10 carloads of people and no public toilets open? Why didnt they just shut the carpark they will be going in the dunes creating more problems .... nice day butt

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49 minutes ago, Gruff said:

Im up near Mangawhai, theres 10 carloads of people and no public toilets open? Why didnt they just shut the carpark they will be going in the dunes creating more problems .... nice day butt

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Why would they be open...no people are supposed to be there are they ?? :rolleyes:

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On 2/3/2020 at 6:56 PM, tripple alliance said:

Nothing wrong with nationals shadow minister for racing , that's  if you want hands on experience , he's got plenty .

Rangitīkei MP Ian McKelvie is the only parliamentarian to have been president of a racing club, to have owned and trained racehorses and who still has trotters in work. 

He knows how to make a few dollars as well , Ian McKelvie – $68.4Million ,

 

  

 

On 3/27/2020 at 3:57 PM, Idolmite said:

I believe history will prove that New Zealand made far better decisions during this crisis than Australia 

Could of been far better if the borders were closed weeks ago and all entering  quarantined  till they were clear . Pretty much 200 people entered NZ unchecked and have caused the following Mayhem. 12 Billion and counting 

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1 hour ago, Gruff said:

Theres even two spear fisherman out.... cant blame them but hey :rcf-kiss-2:

I live close to a city beach and on Wednesday the police were constantly around talking to cars who had stopped and moving on people just hanging around beach.....the walkers were OK.

Going by your much loved STUFF and Herald websites the casual user around the beach e.g. surfer, paddle boarder etc NOW seems ok.

Todays Herald says you can now go to the beach,as long as stay in bubble.....you can even drive to beach now if its local.

This is an easing of hardline from yesterday even.

Plus they say the Sun is good for you ,bad for virus !

People out and about has been rampant today.....much like normal

Much more than past few days.

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20 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

Tell that to the Italians...their death rate is over 10% right now.

The Italians are practicing Senicide, and the french and spanish are closley following 

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7 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

When you have idiots Trump and Johnson, what do you expect.....

https://news.yahoo.com/blas-boris-laughed-off-risks-183748061.html

You forgot Morrison, Australia could be a cot case in a month, we have a son and a daughter there and asked them to come home but they’ve made their lives there.

Not closing the joint down is a decision they will regret. 
 

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5 minutes ago, The Fokkers Nemesis said:

You forgot Morrison, Australia could be a cot case in a month, we have a son and a daughter there and asked them to come home but they’ve made their lives there.

Not closing the joint down is a decision they will regret. 
 

Early call that 

Maybe read the Economist before you make that call ... they’ve got an excellent piece about mitigation ( flattening the curve ) and isolation that suggests it’s a flawed strategy ... whereas exposing “the herd” to the virus will quickly bring immunity for all, admittedly with significant deaths amongst the aged immuno-compromised community 
Hindsight is going to be a great thing 

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1 minute ago, poundforpound said:

Early call that 

Maybe read the Economist before you make that call ... they’ve got an excellent piece about mitigation ( flattening the curve ) and isolation that suggests it’s a flawed strategy ... whereas exposing “the herd” to the virus will quickly bring immunity for all, admittedly with significant deaths amongst the aged immuno-compromised community 
Hindsight is going to be a great thing 

Sure, thank your god of choice (I don’t have one, I find religion ridiculous) that our current government (which I personally wouldn’t vote for, for all the tea in Ceylon) values life.

 

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We have one news going around the country with their reporters reporting how quiet it is,and what may have been on, surely we are not going to get this every night, they will drive us mad, and the rest of the country to.

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2 hours ago, tasman man 11 said:

I live close to a city beach and on Wednesday the police were constantly around talking to cars who had stopped and moving on people just hanging around beach.....the walkers were OK.

Going by your much loved STUFF and Herald websites the casual user around the beach e.g. surfer, paddle boarder etc NOW seems ok.

Todays Herald says you can now go to the beach,as long as stay in bubble.....you can even drive to beach now if its local.

This is an easing of hardline from yesterday even.

Plus they say the Sun is good for you ,bad for virus !

People out and about has been rampant today.....much like normal

Much more than past few days.

Yet I saw in today's Herald where it said if you could walk to your local Beach, okay, but if you needed to drive to get there, stay home. 

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34 minutes ago, The Fokkers Nemesis said:

Sure, thank your god of choice (I don’t have one, I find religion ridiculous) that our current government (which I personally wouldn’t vote for, for all the tea in Ceylon) values life.

 

Mitigation certainly doesn’t save lives .....it just means less of the vulnerable will die initially, and less strain on the IC units, but the viral infections and epidemics will continue for a far longer period because you have no herd immunity....each time a new epidemic spike occurs the government will enforce another shutdown probably localized, offer more financial aid, borrow against GDP, this causes a weakening of the economy until you see a collapse caused by the yo-yo effect....and then what ?

You've still got no immunity .....you’d better hope for a vaccine within a year, or we’re in quite some trouble 

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1 hour ago, poundforpound said:

Mitigation certainly doesn’t save lives .....it just means less of the vulnerable will die initially, and less strain on the IC units, but the viral infections and epidemics will continue for a far longer period because you have no herd immunity....each time a new epidemic spike occurs the government will enforce another shutdown probably localized, offer more financial aid, borrow against GDP, this causes a weakening of the economy until you see a collapse caused by the yo-yo effect....and then what ?

You've still got no immunity .....you’d better hope for a vaccine within a year, or we’re in quite some trouble 

They have the cure. Your media is not telling you.

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2 hours ago, poundforpound said:

Mitigation certainly doesn’t save lives .....it just means less of the vulnerable will die initially, and less strain on the IC units, but the viral infections and epidemics will continue for a far longer period because you have no herd immunity....each time a new epidemic spike occurs the government will enforce another shutdown probably localized, offer more financial aid, borrow against GDP, this causes a weakening of the economy until you see a collapse caused by the yo-yo effect....and then what ?

You've still got no immunity .....you’d better hope for a vaccine within a year, or we’re in quite some trouble 

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Covid will just be another Infectious Disease on a long Infectious Disease list.  We are not going to beat this it will just hang around like Influenza, TB, Hep B, Aids, malaria, measles, meningitis etc....we haven't been able to eradicate these so Covid is here to stay.  I am with you departed.  She should have closed the borders earlier but was worried that decision would look racist!  More worried about what it would look like as opposed to the right thing to do!  The economic repercussions are going to be massive.  And no I don't want people to die from COVID, no more than I want them to die from cancer or any other illness, but it is going to happen.  Locking us down is not the way to do it. There will be more deadly consequences from this than COVID could ever achieve in this country!! 

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The situation worsens in the US....

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  • Source: State and county health departments

Since January, health authorities have identified more than 111,000 Covid-19 cases throughout the United States. So far, 1,858 — about 2% — of those patients have died.

Reported cases and deaths

The figures below are based on data from state and county health departments. These numbers are updated every 10 minutes but may differ from other sources due to differences in reporting times. For up-to-the-minute updates, follow our live coverage.

  Cases Deaths
New York 52,318 728
New Jersey 8,825 108
California 3,801 78
Washington 3,723 175
Michigan 3,657 92
Florida 3,600 53
Louisiana 3,315 127
Massachusetts 3,240 35
Illinois 3,026 34
Pennsylvania 2,751 34
Georgia 2,366 69
Colorado 1,734 31
Texas 1,731 23
Ohio 1,406 25
Connecticut 1,291 27
Tennessee 1,203 6
Maryland 992 5
Indiana 981 24
North Carolina 934 4
Wisconsin 842 13
Arizona 773 15
Virginia 739 17
Missouri 670 9
Mississippi 663 13
Alabama 644 3
Nevada 621 10
South Carolina 539 13
Utah 480 2
Oregon 414 12
Minnesota 398 4
Arkansas 388 3
Oklahoma 377 15
District of Columbia 304 4
Kentucky 302 7
Iowa 298 3
Idaho 230 4
Rhode Island 230 2
Maine 211 1
Kansas 202 4
New Mexico 191 1
New Hampshire 187 2
Vermont 184 10
Delaware 165 2
Montana 121 1
Hawaii 120 0
Puerto Rico 100 3
West Virginia 96 0
Nebraska 89 2
Alaska 85 2
Wyoming 73 0
North Dakota 68 1
South Dakota 58 1
Guam 51 1
US Virgin Islands 19 0
Northern Mariana Islands 2 0
American Samoa 0 0
Repatriations 152 0

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