Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 2, 2021 Chinese Communist Party releases its vaccine Candidate into Iraq The World has gone mad... Unlike Moderna's MRNA-1273, Oxford-AstraZeneca's AZD1222, and Johnson & Johnson's Ad26.COV2.S, there is little public information about the Chinese vaccine's safety or efficacy.[95] The UAE said it had reviewed Sinopharm's interim data analysis which showed the vaccine was 100% effective to prevent moderate and severe instances of COVID-19, but did not say whether it had independently analyzed the case data in its review. It was unclear how Sinopharm drew conclusions, since the UAE announcement of the approval for BBIBP-CorV noticeably lacked details such as the number of COVID-19 cases in the placebo or active group or the volunteers ages.[96] Zhengming Chen, a University of Oxford epidemiologist, said, "It's difficult to tell how well the vaccine works. I hope it is real."[21] The lack of public data could limit Sinopharm from sending the vaccine to a variety of other countries, as confidence in BBIBP-CorV's safety and efficacy will be crucial to its successful rollout internationally. Chen said that to convince other countries to follow suit requires solid scientific evidence and robust data that are open to scrutiny.[21] As of December 30, 2020, no detailed efficacy data of the vaccine has been released to the public. Jin said while China's recent approval could boost BBIBP-CorV's credibility, more data is needed if it is to take a share in the global market. A Sinopharm executive said detailed data would be released later and published in scientific journals in China and internationally.[8] Sinopharm president Wu Yonglin said the trial results exceeded the WHO's requirements, but a director at a large pharmaceutical company in Shanghaiexpressed skepticism over the trials and the expectation that drug regulators in Bahrain and the UAE would not hold the same standard as the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Some people, including health professionals in China, intended to be cautious about the vaccine. A doctor at a leading hospital in Shandong said, "I am not going to get the vaccine over safety concerns", adding "It is still in clinical trials."[20] In January 2021, the government of the Philippinesacknowledged the public's hesitation over safety concerns about COVID-19 vaccines and commented on a foreign news report about BBIBP-CorV, which listed 73 side effects, including loss of vision and taste as well as blood pressure increase. The government said the FDA would carefully review all documents, including the report on the 73 adverse reactions, should Sinopharm apply for clinical trial or emergency use.[97] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 3, 2021 ‘Herd Immunity’ This is a term thrown around with Measles which isnt an RNA virus, China is the most highly vaccinated Country with 95% coverage and they still get outbreaks...but also a New complication has arisen ( Vari) ... how can you get ‘Herd immunity from something that doesnt create immunity and is claimed to just reduce severity of disease??? Using NZ as an example we have had large samples of actual positive cases that have come to nothing, and many have breached isolation and mingled with the ‘Herd’...they test vaccines on who exactly ? they claim yout not ‘immune’ until day 35 of the pfizer biontech potion so when these people get sick ( not including adverse reactions) they will claim (similar to the useless flu vaccine) it stopped a more severe disease These ‘vaccines ‘ are not just a massive waste of time and money but have associated risks no therepuetic can help resolve, unlike those Re-purpose drugs that are Proven by US emergencie Physicians like the well proven Ivermectin ...this Flu seems to be real enough to be a concern but has been exaggerated beyond compare...mugs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 Minister Jacinda Ardern has used her first public remarks for the year to declare 2021 “the year of the vaccine” and stated the Government’s goal is getting Covid to the point where it will be managed like the common seasonal flu. The collaboration follows the January 2010 call by Bill and Melinda Gates for the next ten years to be the Decade of Vaccines. The Global Vaccine Action Plan will enable greater coordination across all stakeholder groups – national governments, multilateral organizations, civil society, the private sector and philanthropic organizations -- and will identify critical policy, resource, and other gaps that must be addressed to realize the life-saving potential of vaccines. Adern has just locked in 8.5 million doses of Pfizers potion to jab EVERY New Zealander , its experimental and wont stop you carrying or spreading the ‘Virus’ and like the Utterly useless Flu jab will require yearly shots .... pfizer are not liable for any compensation for adverse reactions or death which are expected fromntheir own literature..Join the Dots... chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 Wheres the Disease (Covid) that is suppose to kill after contracting Sars Cov 2 ? We have ‘seen ‘ supposed cases Streaming in on a regular basis..... We cant even get Sars to transmit here ... Now Adern is facing pressure from Bill gates and the WHO to vaccinate YOU at $25 a jab that will be MANDATORY as earlier described and needed EVERY year... there are therepeutics Proven to work against this Flu that are being covered up by the Corrupt This is NOT a vaccine...the Vaccine argument doesnt apply here so forget your Smallpox /Polio arguments that are supposed to Prove Vaccines work ... this is Serious ,and wont be to long before Adern closes down fact based sites .... now that you and your families are in Aderns (Gates)Crosshairs you need to start Educating...Your Freedom is diminishing at a Rapid rate Chris Hipkins is on the Record saying its safe...Is it ? He cant know. Conspiracy? Look at the facts...there are enough out there ,but even those around NZs exposure should be enough to raise concern...am i wrong? ...not worth the risk to find out , or is it? Your Choice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 Ive just read in this mornings paper that Adern is going to use the other three vaccine candidates from her last $66 million dollar ‘purchase ‘as ‘Boosters’ for this Pfizer experiment.... This would have to be the most insane statement around an experimental vaccine in relation to other expermental vaccines ever proposed....moreso given this statement from a career virologist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,912 Report post Posted March 8, 2021 I'm having a vaccination on Friday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 9, 2021 4 hours ago, stodge said: I'm having a vaccination on Friday. Best of Luck Stodge , any feedback appreciated on here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted March 10, 2021 Then from May Kiwis aged over 70, then those aged over 65 years old before the vaccine is offered to the remaining population in July. Clarification please - Does "From May" mean 1st May or 31st May?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 10, 2021 What about those who think the Flu Vax works Eljay? Do they take whatever this is with whatever that is? The potential contradictions with this experiment are very complex, and remember effiacy doesnt mean effective when looking at their claimed 95% on 19,000 people ...Not one case here has resulted in Serious Disease so how did they test this ‘Vaccine’? And the claim is it stops serious disease the same as the Ineffective Flu jab...$$$$$$$$ down the Shithouse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted March 10, 2021 On 3/9/2021 at 8:58 AM, Gruff said: Ive just read in this mornings paper that Adern is going to use the other three vaccine candidates from her last $66 million dollar ‘purchase ‘as ‘Boosters’ for this Pfizer experiment.... This would have to be the most insane statement around an experimental vaccine in relation to other expermental vaccines ever proposed....moreso given this statement from a career virologist And Oz Health Minister Greg Hunt admitted to hospital 3 days after having Covid vaccine--- a "mystery ailment". Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 10, 2021 I reckon Gregs going to be a little nervous getting the next shot 3-4 weeks from now Chev, from the Pfizer literature EVERYBODY must be screened before their experimental shot, this isnt a case of lining up and just getting jabbed.Russian Roulette Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 10, 2021 I suggest EVERYONE reads this.....particularly the fact sheet ..Click on EUA then recipients and caregivers..was updated Feb 26-2021 Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Information | CDC www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 11, 2021 Vaccine Benefits outweigh risks we are told with the latest Death and Blood clots around the astra zeneca vaccine in Denmark... its safe, just being put on hold .... These Vaccine candidates are all being rushed through under ‘emergency use’ protocols with a something is better than nothing attitude and all claim very good antibody response For an effective COVID vaccine, look beyond antibodies to T-cells... news.berkeley.edu/2020/09/09/for-an-effective-covid... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 12, 2021 WHO lead Tedros Ghehebreyesus is saying there is no reason to stop Astra zeneca vaccine after the death and bloodclots while they investigate reasons From a guy who endorsed Mugabe as goodwill ambassador to the WHO and covered up the early outbreak in China what would you expect . Dodgy is an understatement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 13, 2021 Another two healthy victims in Sicily dead after vaccination, but no link has been established with any adverse reaction anywhere due to the poorly performed Astra Zeneca potion . Shes right, its for the greater good Inject something that has a better chance of killing you than the disease its meant to reduce severity Insanity. These ‘Vaccines’ are therepeutics by definition, and there are other CHEAP re purpose drugs out there proven over decades as safe that have been proven in the field to save lives...but no money in that .Plandemic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 14, 2021 The Elderly Receiving the COVID-19 Vaccine are Dropping Like... greatmountainpublishing.com/2021/01/24/the-elderly... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 14, 2021 Marvin Hagler Dies Suddenly at 66.... chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,912 Report post Posted March 14, 2021 48 hours after the vaccine and I feel fine. Nearly 25 million first vaccinations over here so far and that's closing in on half the over-18 population. As far as I can see, the main problem has been individuals having a vaccination and then believing they were fully protected from minute one. It's been well documented over here substantial (not full, such a thing doesn't exist) immunity doesn't occur for 3 weeks after that first vaccination. In essence, we are told to carry on as though you've not been vaccinated and wait three weeks. The "roadmap" from the UK Government has lengthy gaps between the phases but that is to allow the three week period to elapse and so when non-essential retail re-opens on Monday April 12th, the majority of the adult population will not only have had the first dose of vaccine but will have built up immunity with the 21 day gap. This is the motivation behind the delayed re-opening - so we re-start and don't see a big push of new cases (yes, there will be a spike in cases but the number of deaths and hospitalisations will hopefully reduce further). Unfortunately, a few older people got the first vaccination and then went ahead with postponed surgeries or went out and about and contracted the virus and perished because the immunity hadn't had time to kick in. The messaging needed to be better. Apart from that, there have been no reports of issues with either Pfizer or Astrazeneca - we are given a leaflet which does warn of some side effects which can affect up to 10% of those being vaccinated. Dissident 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 14, 2021 5 hours ago, stodge said: 48 hours after the vaccine and I feel fine. Nearly 25 million first vaccinations over here so far and that's closing in on half the over-18 population. As far as I can see, the main problem has been individuals having a vaccination and then believing they were fully protected from minute one. It's been well documented over here substantial (not full, such a thing doesn't exist) immunity doesn't occur for 3 weeks after that first vaccination. In essence, we are told to carry on as though you've not been vaccinated and wait three weeks. The "roadmap" from the UK Government has lengthy gaps between the phases but that is to allow the three week period to elapse and so when non-essential retail re-opens on Monday April 12th, the majority of the adult population will not only have had the first dose of vaccine but will have built up immunity with the 21 day gap. This is the motivation behind the delayed re-opening - so we re-start and don't see a big push of new cases (yes, there will be a spike in cases but the number of deaths and hospitalisations will hopefully reduce further). Unfortunately, a few older people got the first vaccination and then went ahead with postponed surgeries or went out and about and contracted the virus and perished because the immunity hadn't had time to kick in. The messaging needed to be better. Apart from that, there have been no reports of issues with either Pfizer or Astrazeneca - we are given a leaflet which does warn of some side effects which can affect up to 10% of those being vaccinated. Wow hook line and sinker https://dailypost.ng/2021/03/11/covid-19-norway-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-over-fears-of-blood-clot/ https://dailypost.ng/2021/03/07/austria-suspends-astra-zeneca-vaccine-as-one-dies-after-taking-shot/ https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/good-news/29-people-died-in-norway-after-getting-the-pfizer-vaccine-but-it-s-not-the-same-as-india/ar-BB1cPgY2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 15, 2021 17 hours ago, stodge said: 48 hours after the vaccine and I feel fine. Nearly 25 million first vaccinations over here so far and that's closing in on half the over-18 population. As far as I can see, the main problem has been individuals having a vaccination and then believing they were fully protected from minute one. It's been well documented over here substantial (not full, such a thing doesn't exist) immunity doesn't occur for 3 weeks after that first vaccination. In essence, we are told to carry on as though you've not been vaccinated and wait three weeks. The "roadmap" from the UK Government has lengthy gaps between the phases but that is to allow the three week period to elapse and so when non-essential retail re-opens on Monday April 12th, the majority of the adult population will not only have had the first dose of vaccine but will have built up immunity with the 21 day gap. This is the motivation behind the delayed re-opening - so we re-start and don't see a big push of new cases (yes, there will be a spike in cases but the number of deaths and hospitalisations will hopefully reduce further). Unfortunately, a few older people got the first vaccination and then went ahead with postponed surgeries or went out and about and contracted the virus and perished because the immunity hadn't had time to kick in. The messaging needed to be better. Apart from that, there have been no reports of issues with either Pfizer or Astrazeneca - we are given a leaflet which does warn of some side effects which can affect up to 10% of those being vaccinated. Ive posted enough information and theory on here to sink a Battleship Stodge, . You are never ‘immune ‘with any of these vaccines , they claim it lessens severity of illness,appreciate your feedback and look forward to your second shot feedback .Read some more literature to this experimental vaccine , they have no idea how this plays out over time. All the best People are carrying on like we couldnt survive without vaccines, but the Science creates these issues.... Pin Cushions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 15, 2021 Funny how there are 380 odd trillion viruses floating aroud your body at any one time that your immune system is fighting but MSM focusses on one mild one and the brainwashed obey. Insanity Biologists estimate that 380 trillion viruses are living on and inside your body right now—10 times the number of bacteria. Some can cause illness, but many simply coexist with you.1/12/2020 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 15, 2021 This was k own a year ago with use with Hydroxychloroquine thanks to Donald Trump...what exactly are patients being treated with? The Fatalaties have been exacerbated by a System lead by people wanting profits... re purpose drugs can save lives but are not prescribed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,912 Report post Posted March 15, 2021 I realise I'm never going to win over those who are adamant the Internet in general and Nigerian web sites in particular give them all the truth they need. In terms of the blood clot issue which has been raised as a legitimate concern by some European countries, the Germans reported 13 cases from AstraZeneca and I think 12 from Pfizer in the UK. Now, for context, 10 million doses of each vaccine have been administered in the UK so the chances of getting an issue with blood clots or thrombosis as it is called is around 1 in a million which is considered "background". Given those odds compared with the odds of me surviving the virus at my age and in my health - well, I'll be with the vaccine all day every day. It's curious some of those most risk-averse about the vaccine are those least risk-averse about the virus (remove masks, end social distancing etc). As to "how this plays out over time", we won't get to a zero-Covid world, it will, I suspect, become the dominant virus and there will be an annual vaccination (just as there is for influenza over here) which will hopefully only be for those most at risk as treatments become more effective. We will of course learn to live with it - until the next vaccine-resistant virus comes along whether from a military facility, a Chinese market or deliberately bio-engineered by Big Pharma to effect a systematic reduction of the population via sterilisation (delete as appropriate). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...