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THIS IS SERIOUS PEOPLE MAKE NO MISTAKE

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3 hours ago, poundforpound said:

What test kits ?

Dr Lance O’Sullivan, whom I know and trust implicitly, tells me ( this morning ) he has THREE test kits in total, and he’s covering the area from Whangarei north....

It’s just fabricated warm fuzzy bullshit......, there is NO abundant supply of testing kits as claimed...this is a chaotic shambles being sanitized by the Labour Party spin department 

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/04/coronavirus-northland-dhb-pushes-back-on-new-complaints-from-dr-lance-o-sullivan.html

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Topic , This is Serious  , and it just got more serious .

This absolutely effin useless so called government has no idea of how to run things and support business  , totally out of their depth , the latest .

As I pointed out earlier , people are travelling to buy spirits , it's not available in supermarkets so trusts who were selling gin whiskey etc are now NOT allowed to sell spirits only beer and wine , the same as supermarkets who have NEVER sold spirits .

Instead of showing some understanding or desire to support business and allow a little bit of normality to return to NZers by allowing bottle stores (butchers , green grocers the same) to open along the same lines as dairy's they forbid the sale of spirits . Fnn amazing , those businesses mentioned are ready to open up and avoid severe financial losses but it seems comrade cindy would prefer us all to become reliant beneficiaries .

YOUR right scoobie , this is serious . 

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29 minutes ago, tripple alliance said:

Topic , This is Serious  , and it just got more serious .

This absolutely effin useless so called government has no idea of how to run things and support business  , totally out of their depth , the latest .

As I pointed out earlier , people are travelling to buy spirits , it's not available in supermarkets so trusts who were selling gin whiskey etc are now NOT allowed to sell spirits only beer and wine , the same as supermarkets who have NEVER sold spirits .

Instead of showing some understanding or desire to support business and allow a little bit of normality to return to NZers by allowing bottle stores (butchers , green grocers the same) to open along the same lines as dairy's they forbid the sale of spirits . Fnn amazing , those businesses mentioned are ready to open up and avoid severe financial losses but it seems comrade cindy would prefer us all to become reliant beneficiaries .

YOUR right scoobie , this is serious . 

As much as I understand your frustration with the lockdown, learn to accept that possibly you are in a minority with your views here. I for one would relish a complete lockdown from 10pm to 6am, apart from those whom are essential. Now I'm in the minority I think.

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15 minutes ago, arjay said:

As much as I understand your frustration with the lockdown, learn to accept that possibly you are in a minority with your views here. I for one would relish a complete lockdown from 10pm to 6am, apart from those whom are essential. Now I'm in the minority I think.

Wrong , I support the lockdown BUT the lack of common sense , the lack of planning , the stupidity of govt members , the continued confusion of who can operate and who can't is frustrating and there is no plan to exit the lockdown , Ausse is tracking down nicely and it hasn't become a police state . The opportunity is there for some small businesses to open under the same restrictions as dairy's but comrade cindys and her socialist advisors are against it .

At the end of the day all decisions have a little political element to them , the lefty's are more cautious than the right wing , that's why this lot are not worried about creating high dependency  , some one else will pay .

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28 minutes ago, arjay said:

As much as I understand your frustration with the lockdown, learn to accept that possibly you are in a minority with your views here. I for one would relish a complete lockdown from 10pm to 6am, apart from those whom are essential. Now I'm in the minority I think.

Kinda agree , get it done hard  , put all arrivals in hotel rooms for however many days , NO exceptions then get back to some normality asap for us buggers here paying the taxes or the people who've lost jobs can somehow get moving with theit lives again . We cannot be locked up forever for the dribs and drabs making there way home , some after years away or earning the big coin offshore paying FA tax here . 

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Its too late for the imprisonment (lockdown) in regards to the population, I mean are you really suggesting imprisoning people in their homes, will cure people ?

Lock up the people coming in (as if there should still be people coming in :rcf-shocked-3: )  for sure and shut the borders for a while.

But why are we punishing everyone ?

I see Bloomfield must be getting a little pressure, because now he sees the light at the end of the tunnel, because 50 odd is less than 70 odd  ... hmm,  but as we all know the light is really the TRAIN.

I remember all the people, quite a few on here as well, telling us we were only 2 weeks behind Italy, well guess what, its past 2 weeks.

The reason for those horrific figures from Italy, lesser extant Spain, France, was simply Senicide, the absolutely appalling sight in Northern Italy (before those clips disappeared) of sick people being put in cots and just crammed in to rooms to die was f disgusting.  

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Something to think about with regard Italy. How is it that Greece, which is next door with a similar demographic split, similar diet etc. has had a death rate that is only about 10% of the Italian rate ?

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What gets me is how quick we look  to Science (particularly virologists)  for an answer when they create most of the problems in the first place. Look at Aids in the Congo, began after a US vaccine experimented with polio using crushed kidneys from an infected Green monkey ,(they infect the host ,then use the hosts crushed kidneys ) the Aids epidemic in the Homosexual communities in San Francisco related to the Hep B vaccination ,and you could go back to the so called ‘Spanish flu’ where immunologists experimented with 3 Vaccines on Soldiers related to bacterial meningitis at Fort Riley Kansas,where the first cases are actually documented, this information is out there for all to see. The 100 million dollar Ten year vaccination program in South Africa for HIV which was a complete flop and in Africa this would be the tip of the iveberg....... oh well back to the drawing board  $$$$$$ :rcf-thinking: Theres no money to be made with a Healthy population.All they are doing is introducing diseases normally associated with Animals into Humans with their experiments,and more virulent strains of disease .But yet we keep looking at them for answers. We are a foolish mob :rcf-sleeping:

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The TRAIN of course is Winter and the new Flu season.  My guess is quite a few of the dead being reported, only had the flu not Covid. I mean who is checking right !

What we need is for most people to get a mild dose of Covid and gradually the herd effect will take over.

I mean its like everyone has forgotten about the measles epidemic, just LAST YEAR. Measles is way more effective killer, no signs for 5 days AFTER infection, but all that time highly infectious, then signs appear, usually to late for the population. Remember Julie Genter on the TV amidst  the worst part and her only advice was "Don't come to Auckland", that was it, nothing abt people in Auckland leaving town .... But luckily what happened, only 2 dead, because 90 % of the population were vaccinated when young

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You can become life long immune if you get polio and measles naturally but not with an immunisation, they normally show with mild symptoms sometimes flu like without any drama, but as with most diseases some get seriously effected. Julie anne Genter needs to be removed, how she got into a decision making position is beyond me....they stopped testing cases in Samoa very early on in their vaccination process at the begininging of their outbreak, remembering they had initially been vaccinating on the Island BEFORE the outbreak and we know this vaccination Sheds (Disneyland debacle)putting those unvaccinated around them prone to the immunologists antigen. Remembering of course Samoa has a poor health record and their people have weak immune systems.Vaxopaedia say that having measles symptoms is just a reaction to the measles vaccine :rcfe-laughing: people believe this :rcf-shocked-2:

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Gruff are you sure about your first line statement that you cannot get lifelong immunity with vaccinations. If that was the case surely they would be revaccinating after a certain period , as this does not happen you would imagine that polio would reappear if what you say is correct.

Gruff are you for or against vaccinations/ I think I already KNOW the answer but just wanted confirmation

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From my research on provax sites GOM, China is the most heavily vaccinated Country with Mandatory vaccinations yet they still get recurring disease.These vaccinations will be Mandatory Worldwide after this Sars2 outbreak, and you will be another of Big Pharmas guinea pigs. The case in Canada recently with the dead 13 month old baby, the Judges summation declaring the Vaccination campaign was ultimately just an experiment .Look at the Past openly and you will see the future 

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Of course vaccinations work, the science is simple. 

I am glad most of the NZ population got the 3 shot vaccines when they were young.  The fudge up lately in the last 20 odd years, has not helped the general population. 

When the press and others exploit the unfortunate few that have reactions, they do a disservice to the main population. 

Nowadays tho, it is wise to check each vaccine out fully before you or your family take it, because of the greed of pharmaceutical companies. 

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36 minutes ago, Archer said:

Of course vaccinations work, the science is simple. 

I am glad most of the NZ population got the 3 shot vaccines when they were young.  The fudge up lately in the last 20 odd years, has not helped the general population. 

When the press and others exploit the unfortunate few that have reactions, they do a disservice to the main population. 

Nowadays tho, it is wise to check each vaccine out fully before you or your family take it, because of the greed of pharmaceutical companies. 

You may want to listen

It's only worth 12 trillion to Big Pharma to get a  vaccine....nothing to see here

Think why are you sitting in your house now

 

 

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Amazed at the press conference today that there was talk of a level 5.

Why didn't they at the beginning of the pandemic start off with a 

Level 10     We are all f.....d

Level 9       Not far away from being all f.....d

Level 8       Prepare for the worse

Level 7       I told you this would happen if you didn't self isolate.

Level 6       Self isolate or else

Level 5       Level 4 didn't work so i'm inventing some new levels.

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1 hour ago, Archer said:

Of course vaccinations work, the science is simple. 

I am glad most of the NZ population got the 3 shot vaccines when they were young.  The fudge up lately in the last 20 odd years, has not helped the general population. 

When the press and others exploit the unfortunate few that have reactions, they do a disservice to the main population. 

Nowadays tho, it is wise to check each vaccine out fully before you or your family take it, because of the greed of pharmaceutical companies. 

If the Science  was that simple why are we in lockdown? 

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2 hours ago, 100 1 said:

You may want to listen

It's only worth 12 trillion to Big Pharma to get a  vaccine....nothing to see here

Think why are you sitting in your house now

 

 

 

2 hours ago, 100 1 said:

You may want to listen

It's only worth 12 trillion to Big Pharma to get a  vaccine....nothing to see here

Think why are you sitting in your house now

 

 

Hokesy how can this confuse you? I wonder how many people actually watched this clip in its entirety?  How credible is Dr Shiva? Braden Macbeth from Science based medicine doesnt think so ,but who is he ?

 

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7 minutes ago, poundforpound said:

 Because it’s a new pathogen ( albeit from a well established family of viruses ) so there’s no established antibody profile that can be mobilized to fight it .... there’s simply no immunity to it, yet 

Theres no immunity for Sars or Mers either Leo, and theyve been trying for 17 years (Sars)The Only 9 cases post Sars were in Singapore and Taiwan all related to Lab accidents, not to mention Gates has been working with Coronavirises since at least 2015 when he patented two strains through his Pirbright  institute that  affected Birds and Pigs, and we know hes interested in Nanotechnology in this field. As Archer said ‘The Science is Simple’ ...

"We know that there are Coronaviruses in pigs as well so we try to keep an eye out if this specific Coronavirus has any impact on pigs," says Dr Christensen in an interview with Farmscape.

"So far there is no clear evidence that the new human Coronavirus, COVID 2019 is similar to any Coronaviruses that we know of in swine.

"There is no very clear evidence that pigs might be susceptible to this specific strain but I also want to caution that there is so much research going on right now that this could change within a week or so.

 

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5 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

That Aussie news tonight testing a lice treatment Ivermectin sounded promising in early stages.

Been mentioned on here earlier Hokesy :rcfe-like: Leggy yesterday

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In the study, published today (Jan. 29) in the journal The Lancet, the researchers analyzed 10 genome sequences of the novel coronavirus, dubbed 2019-nCoV, obtained from nine patients in China who were sick with the virus. 

 

They found that all 10 of the genome sequences were extremely similar — they shared more than 99.98% of the same genetic sequence, the authors said. This suggests the virus made its "jump" to humans very recently, because if that jump had happened long ago, the virus sequences would have differed more, given the fast rate at which viruses tend to mutate and evolve.

 

"It is striking that the sequences of 2019-nCoV described here from different patients were almost identical," study co-lead author Weifeng Shi, a professor at the Key Laboratory of Etiology and Epidemiology of Emerging Infectious Diseases in Universities of Shandong Province, affiliated with Shandong First Medical University, said in a statement. "This finding suggests that 2019-nCoV originated from one source within a very short period and was detected relatively rapidly." 

 

Related: 10 deadly diseases that hopped across species

Despite emerging in humans only recently, the virus has already infected about 6,000 people and caused 132 deaths in China, while spreading to 15 other countries, according to the World Health Organization. Most of the initial cases occurred in people who worked at or visited the Huanan seafood market in Wuhan, China, where a variety of wild animals were sold.

 

To learn more about the virus' origins, the researchers compared the 2019-nCoV genetic sequence with those in a library of viral sequences, and found that the most closely related viruses were two coronaviruses that originated in bats; both of those coronaviruses shared 88% of their genetic sequence with that of 2019-nCoV. (When compared with two other coronaviruses known to infect people — SARS and MERS —  2019-nCoV shared about 79% of its genetic sequence with SARS and 50% with

......January 15th....

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So no one out West can buy spirits or RTDs from today, because THREE people complained about people coming from other areas. So what happens, ALL of West Auckland can no longer buy said liquor   .... This half arsed bullsh*te has got to stop. It has nothing to do with spreading the virus, because if that was case, there would be NO alcohol sales and NO supermarket sales, diaries, etc ... 

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