Mr Spyro 408 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 21 hours ago, Gruff said: The other interesting thing here is why Our Director of health Ashley Bloomfield ( whose expertise’ is in non communicable disease) has brought 1.5 million extra flu jabs and is immunising now???? Everybody needs to be 100% to fight this and this will bring down their immune systems....Very questionable He is starting to hack me off. Telling people he can enforce a lockdown as long as he deems fit. He has a secure job, no apparent business, telling that to people sitting at home watching all they have worked for going down the gurgler with every advancing week, . 3 months, 6 months whatever time means nothing to him. If he thinks people are going to stay onside no matter the length of time he comes up with he is going to get a shock. Look at Spain even with all the deaths, 3 weeks of lock down, they now taking to the streets in civil disobedience and reclaiming some semblance of life. Ultimately people will only be stretched for so long and power rests with them. Condor, Gruff, Breeder and 3 others 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,762 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 8:21 PM, Gruff said: Brandenburg 50.5 going to be tough, but surely Mr Quickie is overs at $34, the All Star run was pretty good and Randwick will suit bigtime, just need the right tempo Why hasn’t Oliver stuck with him though Gruffy ? He was dead keen last start so you would think he’d stick if any hope. Does have a few good rides at Caulfield....Russian Camelot and Benitoite for starters. Maybe they wanted a Sydney rider...Schofield ? Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Ohokaman said: Why hasn’t Oliver stuck with him though Gruffy ? He was dead keen last start so you would think he’d stick if any hope. Does have a few good rides at Caulfield....Russian Camelot and Benitoite for starters. Maybe they wanted a Sydney rider...Schofield ? Good question, Schofield at Randwick a better fit ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mr Spyro said: He is starting to hack me off. Telling people he can enforce a lockdown as long as he deems fit. He has a secure job, no apparent business, telling that to people sitting at home watching all they have worked for going down the gurgler with every advancing week, . 3 months, 6 months whatever time means nothing to him. If he thinks people are going to stay onside no matter the length of time he comes up with he is going to get a shock. Look at Spain even with all the deaths, 3 weeks of lock down, they now taking to the streets in civil disobedience and reclaiming some semblance of life. Ultimately people will only be stretched for so long and power rests with them. He specialises in non communicable diseases yet pushes for non -essential Flu antigens with a History connected with non-communicable disease? He must vote labour Mr Spyro and Ragamuffin 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponderosa8 1,321 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Gruff said: Good question, Schofield at Randwick a better fit ? Probably because jockeys arent able to travel inter-state.???. Isn't thats why JMac picked up the ride on Castelvecchio? Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,762 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ponderosa8 said: Probably because jockeys arent able to travel inter-state.???. Isn't thats why JMac picked up the ride on Castelvecchio? Yes of course.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,005 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Gruff said: He specialises in non communicable diseases yet pushes for non -essential Flu antigens with a History connected with non-communicable disease? He must vote labour Well I've had my flu jab , it's essential for me millions of others . .I've also had much more serious treatments , just had a scan today , BRILLIANT result , that chemical brew has worked well for the time being . I would love to had a little celebration but I can't buy any spirits around here and I don't want to travel to southland , it's a bit to far for me but some are driving from Queenstown to Gore to buy the drink of their choice , Southland supermarkets don't sell alcohol , they still have the trust system . If you haven't guessed , I sure as hell don't vote labour . Cubes, Pam Robson, Basil brush and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer 296 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 been waiting for someone to bring that up. All those POS telling us, we are ALL in this TOGETHER, which is not even close to being true, Government ministers still on full pay, $100,000 - 300,000, (90% doing f all) lackeys and consultants all on full pay, most living in 4-5 bedroom homes with 2 bathrooms, spa pool, billiard room and bar, outdoor pool and big back/front yards, all the while imprisoning most of the population to their meagre homes and TOTALLY destroying their finances. FUDGE THEM and their ILLEGAL imprisonments, idiotic factory closures and general lack of humanity to their fellow kiwis. I think everyone should just go back to work on Monday ! Test EVERYONE and if clear, resume work, if not then stay home (depending on severity). I mean 1 dead, 1 in ICU (and hes stable), clearly this is not Ebola or Cholera. Why punish EVERYONE for the f ups of a few (including the PM, Ministry of Health and Ministry of Immigration). Mr Spyro, Cubes, arjay and 2 others 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 519 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 Agree with you. Cannot believe you can wander in, perhaps not sick at all, say you will go into quarantine, and Bob's your uncle, away you go. 1. Set up a massive quarantine camp at Mangere 2. Test all comers - they go into camp until results come through 3. Negative result - go into iso with rest of country 4. Positive result, stay in camp, be treated there. Cindy and co are big on hugs and 'be kind'. Give me an f***** break. Forget the kindness lectures and do EVERYTHING in your power to fix the problems we do have, and STOP more issues coming through the border. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Hogg 320 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 Good on you TA yeah got our shots the other day .The only thing missing was the Lunar Module . Cindy was asked by hard hitting Hillary Barry last night about David Clark ,Cindy fobbed it off as a joke total disrespect of us Kiwis but would you expect from her. Then Hillary giggled and Cindy giggled and waved to each other FFS P4P said something the other day about Cindy leaning towards National and the more I thought about it ,I"m sure he is right. Just go back when she disbanded Parliment I still think this is totally illegal but with all the dumb arsses around her including her she realised that Simon Bridges is the person that might carry her thru so she set up another working party [she loves them]. But S B has being showing her up this week so this will not end well for Cindy . This will be the end of the crap Green Party when Eugenie Sage in these hard times as we all sit at home says this has been great for the climate really this is the shit we have in power ,her and the rest of them with their ideology with electric cars and making the farmers feel like shit .[ who will be the hero's when this is over]. These pretenders like Golriz Ghahrammmmah ,Julie Ann Genter .Cloe Starbuk will be gone and serious people will put our country back on track . At the next election there is a storm coming and it is called Boomers and we are not going to drop our guard like we did at the last election .Cheers BH Pam Robson and GOM 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 A German Backpacker traveling on a bus from Byron Bay to Coolangatta, was intercepted at the Qld/NSW Border in Tweed Heads and told to go back - which she did. She wasn’t given a choice. “NOBODY” is allowed across the Border unless they actually live in Qld. Everybody entering Aust goes straight to a designated Hotel and is isolated for 14 days - no exceptions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 And in the meantime business carries on for a few. Drug den with a que and some wearing masks to protect themselves ??????, Kids running everywhere between them. No jobs, no income but still plenty for P. very sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Houlahan's Dream said: Agree with you. Cannot believe you can wander in, perhaps not sick at all, say you will go into quarantine, and Bob's your uncle, away you go. 1. Set up a massive quarantine camp at Mangere 2. Test all comers - they go into camp until results come through 3. Negative result - go into iso with rest of country 4. Positive result, stay in camp, be treated there. Cindy and co are big on hugs and 'be kind'. Give me an f***** break. Forget the kindness lectures and do EVERYTHING in your power to fix the problems we do have, and STOP more issues coming through the border. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 Cindy hasn't experienced enough to know what to do or how to do it. She can't continue to flick her hair and look down trodden. She's out of her league and is playing with all of our lives. The go forward strategy is seriously flawed because there is very little forward thinking and common sense moving forward. Everything is from a depressive position. And that twit that went biking...I personally think we should be able to go biking but protocols need to be followed to mitigate twits and fuck ups. But IF you're the health minister, and you've been telling people to self isolate, then by fuck you've got to do it. And if Jacinda finds out about it, she's got to smash him to the curb. It's not good enough to accept an apology. That's the wrong message for a period of time when everyone is under duress. Have you heard the politicians volunteer a pay cut? No. Why not? As a leader I would because guess what, I have taken a full cut, and all the people that work with me are being helped by what I now don't get. They deserve it and its warranted. There are tough times now and more to come because of all these twits not thinking with enough imagination and courage. As for our RITA and NZTR representatives, most have to be laid off and the head management need to cut in half at least. Brian is right in the Optimist....Dean, you've got to step up to the plate...tell us the cuts that you've taken....be transparent, show leadership that you're prepared to bite the bullet like everyone else in the industry. If you don't you will become another body on the heap. Leggy and Breeder 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeder 599 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 The Government's problem is they are being advised by medical academics with a political barrow to push. It is only thing I can think of to explain the rubbish they are coming out with, except a desire to see their name in the headlines. Plus we do not have anyone in Govt with the brains and / or experience to question the advice. Berri is absolutely right about the PM. Other Ministers are more interested in bike rides than doing their jobs which explains their understanding of what is going on. But also for the politicians it is convenient excuse for them use when things do not go the way they told us it will ---"oh we were going by expert advice". This week we had some idiot Prof from Otago saying NZ could be the only western world country to eradicate the virus. Firstly the virus will almost certainly not be eradicated anywhere but more importantly how the hell does he expect it to happen in NZ when it is floating around the overseas AND we are not closing our borders AND not testing all new arrivals and quarantining those who test positive.( The Aussies took delivery of 500,000 test kits last week which give a result in 15 minutes). Then this Prof went on to say he expects 20 million to die from the virus world wide --I would bet my last dollar that will be proved to be absolute BS. GOM and Mr Spyro 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 447 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 You can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. Worldwide this virus is in it's infancy. we are lucky somewhat in NZ at this stage. Stables and Peter R S 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 These test kits also have their pitfalls, they are very sensitive as you would expect and are being rushed because of the major demand. The US ordered their first test kits on Feb 5 and they were giving false positives. Serious mistake by the CDC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, poundforpound said: What test kits ? Dr Lance O’Sullivan, whom I know and trust implicitly, tells me ( this morning ) he has THREE test kits in total, and he’s covering the area from Whangarei north.... It’s just fabricated warm fuzzy bullshit......, there is NO abundant supply of testing kits as claimed...this is a chaotic shambles being sanitized by the Labour Party spin department Maybe they all ended up in Matamata napier 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeder 599 Report post Posted April 4, 2020 I see the latest headline is " The coronavirus maybe peaking " Labour internal polling must be going against them or maybe they realise they cannot do much either way to prove anything because as P4P says there are not the test kits available to provide the proof. /sarc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted April 4, 2020 What a load of unmitigated bullshit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,007 Report post Posted April 4, 2020 Any thoughts on this? https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/australian-study-finds-common-anti-parasitic-drug-kills-covid-19-cells-within-48-hours Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Leggy said: Any thoughts on this? https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/australian-study-finds-common-anti-parasitic-drug-kills-covid-19-cells-within-48-hours Interesting this drug is also supposedly anti malarial Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,007 Report post Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gruff said: Interesting this drug is also supposedly anti malarial Yep. https://www.isglobal.org/en_GB/-/nueva-evidencia-respalda-el-uso-de-ivermectina-como-una-herramienta-en-la-eliminacion-de-la-malaria That may be indicative for dose rates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,536 Report post Posted April 4, 2020 Would clean out the worms too... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley 1,900 Report post Posted April 4, 2020 https://www.globalresearch.ca/manufactured-pandemic-testing-people-any-strain-coronavirus-not-specifically-covid-19/5707781?fbclid=IwAR3eszjL_L2kpKXW4g2eQ6rvBxyiyYv82xe6cLiWCDbrtM4Z7JdJCJojn2ghttps://www.globalresearch.ca/manufactured-pandemic-testing-people-any-strain-coronavirus-not-specifically-covid-19/5707781?fbclid=IwAR3eszjL_L2kpKXW4g2eQ6rvBxyiyYv82xe6cLiWCDbrtM4Z7JdJCJojn2ghttps://www.globalresearch.ca/manufactured-pandemic-testing-people-any-strain-coronavirus-not-specifically-covid-19/5707781?fbclid=IwAR3eszjL_L2kpKXW4g2eQ6rvBxyiyYv82xe6cLiWCDbrtM4Z7JdJCJojn2g 100 1 and Breeder 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...