slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Ohokaman said: Some interesting stuff but why all the repetition....??!!! Then why requote all of it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,842 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 Just now, slam dunk said: Then why requote all of it? What else have you got to do....? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Ohokaman said: What else have you got to do....? Highlight and delete all or bits of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 Henrietta Bedford is spot on. The former NZRB and now RITA have been hijacked by imposters who mainly knew nothing nor cared about racing and saw their positions as stepping stones to other careers. CosmicBlackie and dock leaf 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakari 24 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, gubellini said: Henrietta Bedford is spot on. The former NZRB and now RITA have been hijacked by imposters who mainly knew nothing nor cared about racing and saw their positions as stepping stones to other careers. Pretty shortsighted and nieve to suggest that people that work for a company don't care about it, would be different to any other company any of us have ever worked for. shaneMcAlister 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phar Lap Fan 104 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 T.A.B. - Those documents don't specify that racing clubs subscribed the capital if the loan, from banks/s, was only under-written by them. Was told that the loan was quickly repaid so the conclusion was that the T.A. B. owned itself. Read the book about its history, although a few years ago, and thought the same from that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winx21 70 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 It didn't register with me that McKenzie majored in Sport in USA. Thats quite vital information. On here the greatest cheerleader for McKenzie was P4P as he was for Michael Stiassny and Typhoon, John Allen and FOB (OpenBet) collectively thats quite a CV. Is that true p4p? You were in favour of typhoon and open bet? Interesting point about mackenze,maybe his aim is for TAB to be mainly about sport and that is we here his loyalty really lies.... CEO of a mainly sports organisation for future promotion somewhere overseas... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 pakari I may be shortsighted and naive ( note correct spelling ) but you couldn’t level the same accusation at Henrietta Bedford. Note also that I used the word mainly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,842 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, winx21 said: It didn't register with me that McKenzie majored in Sport in USA. Thats quite vital information. On here the greatest cheerleader for McKenzie was P4P as he was for Michael Stiassny and Typhoon, John Allen and FOB (OpenBet) collectively thats quite a CV. Is that true p4p? You were in favour of typhoon and open bet? Interesting point about mackenze,maybe his aim is for TAB to be mainly about sport and that is we here his loyalty really lies.... CEO of a mainly sports organisation for future promotion somewhere overseas... He was CEO at Wellington and Addington so well versed in Racing matters I would have thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Diceman Cometh 125 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 Wouldn't it be slightly ironic, if at the end of all this, Dean and Cameron George swapped roles. No, on second thought, who would hire Cameron? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winx21 70 Report post Posted March 27, 2020 He was CEO at Wellington and Addington so well versed in Racing matters I would have thought. You would think so wouldn't you, Yet he is ignoring the messara report and pretty much the entire racing industry on how this industry should look going forward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted March 28, 2020 Did very little for Addington other than receiving a fat salary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted March 28, 2020 I personally think Dean knows his stuff, understands gambling etc. However I am disappointed the way this bill has been put together, and the fact we have stalled again and again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,842 Report post Posted March 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, Stables said: Did very little for Addington other than receiving a fat salary Very few have....Godber, Gloury, Jensen ?? Now a Functions bloke with funny hair..... Stables 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,842 Report post Posted March 28, 2020 2 hours ago, winx21 said: It didn't register with me that McKenzie majored in Sport in USA. Thats quite vital information. On here the greatest cheerleader for McKenzie was P4P as he was for Michael Stiassny and Typhoon, John Allen and FOB (OpenBet) collectively thats quite a CV. Is that true p4p? You were in favour of typhoon and open bet? Interesting point about mackenze,maybe his aim is for TAB to be mainly about sport and that is we here his loyalty really lies.... CEO of a mainly sports organisation for future promotion somewhere overseas... Dean is a Chartered Accountant. Has a Masters Degree in Sports Administration and Facility Management from Ohio University. Has been CEO at the old Jade Stadium as well as Wellington and Addington. RITA and its problems are a bit different I suspect. shaneMcAlister and napier 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted March 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Phar Lap Fan said: T.A.B. - Those documents don't specify that racing clubs subscribed the capital if the loan, from banks/s, was only under-written by them. Was told that the loan was quickly repaid so the conclusion was that the T.A. B. owned itself. Read the book about its history, although a few years ago, and thought the same from that. Without reading everything here and researching subject ,I'd conclude this post sums things up. The levy to start the organisation which ended up the TAB may have come from club turnover but nowhere does it say the clubs had shares in the Harness/Gallops "Partnership" These two conferences later took on the greyhounds .....and led on to the NZ Racing Authority. This Statutory Body became a Crown Entity ,so it would be difficult to strip it back to Club ownership IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,089 Report post Posted March 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, tasman man 11 said: Without reading everything here and researching subject ,I'd conclude this post sums things up. The levy to start the organisation which ended up the TAB may have come from club turnover but nowhere does it say the clubs had shares in the Harness/Gallops "Partnership" These two conferences later took on the greyhounds .....and led on to the NZ Racing Authority. This Statutory Body became a Crown Entity ,so it would be difficult to strip it back to Club ownership IMO. Yes. It's a silly uninformed argument. If I guarantee a loan for a family member to buy a house say, I don't own the house do I? The IP is a different matter. And who in their right mind would want to own the TAB right now anyway? Though the government and taxpayer could do well to get rid of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted March 28, 2020 That's not correct. The racing clubs were the underwriters to the loan, not the racing conference or the TAB itself. Therefore ownership vests with the racing clubs. hedley 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,089 Report post Posted March 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, Berri said: That's not correct. The racing clubs were the underwriters to the loan, not the racing conference or the TAB itself. Therefore ownership vests with the racing clubs. That's what I said. The clubs underwriting a loan does not give them ownership surely. Patiti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted March 28, 2020 David Grant in his book Two Over Three On Goodtime Sugar: The New Zealand TAB turns 50 published in 2000 states on Page 24 “Initially the Board was comprised of six members ( the Presidents of the Racing and Trotting Conferences and two members elected from each Conference”. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...