Berri 2,131 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 Maybe I'm plain dumb but wouldn't this be the answer. 1. Everyone goes into a lockdown for 14 days. No movements, no exceptions. Everyone wears a bracelet similar to criminal tracking. Food stocking managed from day one; 2. APP made for link made to a central database anyone who is in lockdown in order to manage themselves or initially report any symptoms(not just temperature) while in lockdown ; 3. All patients treated remotely at lockdown premises unless chronic and requiring medical assistance 4. All food and services delivered to lockdown premises by either immune people (those who have recovered and are past the infectious stage) or those who have tested negative in three tests while in lockdown. People can volunteer to be tested free in return for helping with services to lockdown people; 5. All service providers required to wear special clothing under specific protocols; 6. Once all people in a single lockdown premises are negative for three tests, then can be released to first help with others and then normal work; 7. Within 14 days we'll have a combination of people being released from their lockdowns within 21 days and people who are completely quarantined; 8. No one comes into the country without being in quarantine for 14 days; 9. When anyone comes into New Zealand, they have to have a lockdown place and need to be in lockdown for 7 days while 3 tests are done. If we did this, then within 30 days we would be free of this virus. scooby3051 and ADM 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Clydesdale 229 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 Nor far from the right move Berri. Anyone from overseas is a potential carrier. The Prof from Otago was right, test everyone arriving, if showing signs quarantine them, if not self isolate, 14 days reveals the truth. Not a big hardship if you think you are constructively helping your country. Quarantine people get determined and rated and treated if required. Anyone who flaunts the rules, put them in isolation for a week and their views will change. The longest period suffered would be six weeks and then we are back on track with confidence and can then address our industry issues..............LOL jack and Memphis2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,413 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 "We turned dozens away last night". Can you imagine a publican, who's specialty dish is Vindaloo, turning away wealthy foreigners. The greed of that sort of publican is palpable. Congratulations to management at HQ. dock leaf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,841 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 11 hours ago, John Clydesdale said: Nor far from the right move Berri. Anyone from overseas is a potential carrier. The Prof from Otago was right, test everyone arriving, if showing signs quarantine them, if not self isolate, 14 days reveals the truth. Not a big hardship if you think you are constructively helping your country. Quarantine people get determined and rated and treated if required. Anyone who flaunts the rules, put them in isolation for a week and their views will change. The longest period suffered would be six weeks and then we are back on track with confidence and can then address our industry issues..............LOL Did you see that disgusting story last night of two visitors who arrived on Tuesday, and despite being told of the requirements by people on arrival, including their rental car company, decided to continue on down to see the glaciers ?! They got sorted out by the good people down there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Hogg 320 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, poundforpound said: The Viaduct is full of tourists breaching self isolation, we turned dozens away last night. They don’t give a fuck, and that’s literally what they say when we question them. The airport borders should’ve been closed far sooner....as for testing incoming visitors, that’s ok but how do you deal with asymptomatic carriers or those still appearing normal but incubating ( 14 day incubation ) As usual this government is piss weak and completely ineffective but the liberal left wing media are patting the silly bitch on the back, just because she’s throwing our tax payers money at a problem she’s failed to effectively address Good on you P4P ,your right we should have closed our borders sooner and we should have been testing sooner but Cindy had eyes only for 15th March and until the spoilt princess had her day in the sun Corona came second even up to march 14th she was in christchurch watching Muslim men praying .She should have been on top of this well before then so if you count back 3 weeks that is when the borders should have been closed .After 15th March her demeaner changed and it was all about ''Im looking after you NZ''' and we are in this together except you fly Air NZ ,I'll fly in my airforce plane .I notice the crap green party have gone to ground .Cheers BH dock leaf, GOM and ADM 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Boss Hogg said: Good on you P4P ,your right we should have closed our borders sooner and we should have been testing sooner but Cindy had eyes only for 15th March and until the spoilt princess had her day in the sun Corona came second even up to march 14th she was in christchurch watching Muslim men praying .She should have been on top of this well before then so if you count back 3 weeks that is when the borders should have been closed .After 15th March her demeaner changed and it was all about ''Im looking after you NZ''' and we are in this together except you fly Air NZ ,I'll fly in my airforce plane .I notice the crap green party have gone to ground .Cheers BH Thats a disgusting post. Racist to the extreme. Restaurants around the world are closing doors and offering takeaways only. Plenty open spaces around viaduct with apartments to keep that sort of business going. The point about acting earlier is valid but bringing in Muslim sniggering just wrong particularly the timing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Hogg 320 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 I 'm sorry Slam Dunk in no way was it meant to be racist , it was where Cindy was on the friday instead of saying I should be on top of this Corona pandemic and in Wellington getting all the advice she can .If I could edit it out I would Cheers BH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Boss Hogg said: I 'm sorry Slam Dunk in no way was it meant to be racist , it was where Cindy was on the friday instead of saying I should be on top of this Corona pandemic and in Wellington getting all the advice she can .If I could edit it out I would Cheers BH Fair enough. Be interesting what the 12 o'clock address to the nation brings. Boss Hogg 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoopa 281 Report post Posted March 20, 2020 The horse has bolted!This has got the Imperial College written all over it with some small tweaks to make it my own! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talk 308 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 Level 3, Level4. What do they mean Jacinda? Where is the detail? At what stage will schools and gyms etc close? How many respirators or negative pressure rooms do we have? I know more about Germany or the UK than I do NZ. Say you are giving clarity when there is stuff all clarity at all is piss useless. I think the government is making it up as they go along. Black Kirrama, GOM and Breeder 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukkledragga 229 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 It is ironic that the 'jet set' are the most at risk.The elite business execs, sportsmen, doctors and so on are like the proverbial canaries down the black hole of the killer carona catastrophe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,701 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 GO HARD GO EARLY sounds pretty good and will be used many times before this crisis is over, but it is clearly just a slogan as is LETS DO THIS. ADM, GOM and talk 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer 296 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 18 hours ago, Berri said: Maybe I'm plain dumb but wouldn't this be the answer. 1. Everyone goes into a lockdown for 14 days. No movements, no exceptions. Everyone wears a bracelet similar to criminal tracking. Food stocking managed from day one; 2. APP made for link made to a central database anyone who is in lockdown in order to manage themselves or initially report any symptoms(not just temperature) while in lockdown ; 3. All patients treated remotely at lockdown premises unless chronic and requiring medical assistance 4. All food and services delivered to lockdown premises by either immune people (those who have recovered and are past the infectious stage) or those who have tested negative in three tests while in lockdown. People can volunteer to be tested free in return for helping with services to lockdown people; 5. All service providers required to wear special clothing under specific protocols; 6. Once all people in a single lockdown premises are negative for three tests, then can be released to first help with others and then normal work; 7. Within 14 days we'll have a combination of people being released from their lockdowns within 21 days and people who are completely quarantined; 8. No one comes into the country without being in quarantine for 14 days; 9. When anyone comes into New Zealand, they have to have a lockdown place and need to be in lockdown for 7 days while 3 tests are done.If we did this, then within 30 days we would be free of this virus. You were right at the beginning, you are just plain dumb. Maybe we should insert a barcode tag into their arm and after this is over we just leave it in for other security reasons ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 49 minutes ago, Archer said: You were right at the beginning, you are just plain dumb. Maybe we should insert a barcode tag into their arm and after this is over we just leave it in for other security reasons ... You may shortly be branded as an absolute nutter. Clean off the tattoos so we've got a clear shot at making it readable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer 296 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 clipped from stuff, govt notice about bars, But hospitality businesses would be severely impacted by new rules limiting the number of people in venues such as bars, restaurants and casinos to 100 people, and a collective effort is needed to help keep them operating, she said. The cap included staff, and they also needed to ensure a one metre distance between customers, and to have solutions to enable tracing of anyone who has been on the premises ? hmmm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talk 308 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Archer said: clipped from stuff, govt notice about bars, But hospitality businesses would be severely impacted by new rules limiting the number of people in venues such as bars, restaurants and casinos to 100 people, and a collective effort is needed to help keep them operating, she said. The cap included staff, and they also needed to ensure a one metre distance between customers, and to have solutions to enable tracing of anyone who has been on the premises ? hmmm WTF is the point of this post? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer 296 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 Really, Have solutions to enable tracking of people ? ? ? How do they intend to do that ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer 296 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, talk said: WTF is the point of this post? Berris original post and subsequent posts have shown that no one is actually thinking this thru, ie The Big Picture if you allow laws to passed in a chaotic manner, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Roustoby 292 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 Just remember 98.67% (or thereabouts) of cases are people returning from overseas,The virus isn't spreading in NZ yet. Let more people in from countries riddled with it of course our numbers will go up. They had it before they go here. The Hysteria of the numbers going up everyday is very misleading. If the border was closed to all a week ago there would be no new cases. It would be like a trainer taking on new owners and then believing the horses were breeding in the stables because he had more of them. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer 296 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, Michael Roustoby said: Just remember 98.67% (or thereabouts) of cases are people returning from overseas,The virus isn't spreading in NZ yet. Let more people in from countries riddled with it of course our numbers will go up. They had it before they go here. The Hysteria of the numbers going up everyday is very misleading. If the border was closed to all a week ago there would be no new cases. That would be a negative, Its an airborne virus that has been in the country since late December, the virus is already loose in the community, its the lack of wide testing that the so called numbers seem comfortable. Borders should have shut straight away (Dec), but as i said previously the horse has bolted. All these other bullshit rules (laws ?) are too late or just madness created by hysteria. Ride it out people, look after the old folks and if you feel sick stay home and do your time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer 296 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 Oh yeah, SUPPORT your local bars, diaries and other places, because they will be smashed by these bullshit rules/laws ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Archer said: Really, Have solutions to enable tracking of people ? ? ? How do they intend to do that ? You didn't get it did you? If you wanted to stop this crap, then you go long on the dictatorial stance. People cheat, they don't give a shit about anyone else, they don't care. In China they simply shut them down, brought in the army and welded shut the doors to apartment blocks. Everyone went you savages but they did what they needed to. NZers have houses and cheat and flat the law, so the only thing to do is track everyone and smash the cheats....if you want to irradiate this crap. yep, we need heaps of technology to do this and that probably isn't available, but if you want to stop this thing in its tracks, then you've got to go long. Otherwise we'll be bemoaning the extended suffering as we badly manage everything like normal. But we know that the life of it is 14 days. We have vaccines and we already know there is help on its way. If we fuck around for 6 months we'll be properly broke. So let's organise ourselves to not go properly broke. Christ we had so much notice that this virus was bad. And what did these plonkers do? Fuck all. Dickheads like Archer thought it was a blown up press and social media overplay. All you needed to do was read the data to know it was serious. Will it be as big as the Spanish Flu of 1918? Yes. Will it kill as many people? No. We've got better drugs, technology and response systems. But we are complacent and watch this to see by how much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,701 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 I wonder how many lives an alert system will save? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 Check this out. These guys should be strung up https://ultrasight.myshopify.com/products/aurora?pixel=205439207468322 TurnyTom 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer 296 Report post Posted March 21, 2020 Ok, Berri has volunteered to be first in line for bar-coding ... Only dickhead in here is you, .... "weld doors shut, lock up people " Why not just start shooting people, who won't do as they are told. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...