tripple alliance 1,026 Report post Posted March 19, 2020 NZ race horse ownership could return to what it was in the 40s /50 / 60s . Back in those days rural race horse ownership was the back bone of the racing industry , those days have gone but looking at what's happening to the economy a huge turn around is very probable . City's and towns are in real trouble but it's possible rural NZ is about to shine . A couple of indicators , The kiwi was trading down 4 US cents at just US55.6c shortly after 5pm on Thursday .. OIL , Brent oil at an 18 year low , $26.65 a barrel . So currency well down , oil down well down , Rural NZ will be smiling and about to dominate the economy once again . City people and financial investors , all in the crap , unemployment expected to surge and with the currency down import costs will rise and then the share market , an example , CONTACT ENERGY , today $5.35 , was in November $8.80 , in short racing will need rural owners , it's likely they will be the ones with the money . If this situation eventuates those small town RURAL tracks with community backing that are currently under threat may be the saviour of racing , changing times . again . 26.65 Data as of Mar 18, 2020 9:50 PM ET Latest News Crude Extends Slide, Falling to 18-Year Low 26.65 Data as of Mar 18, 2020 9:50 PM ET Latest News Crude Extends Slide, Falling to 18-Year Low Huey, Patiti and Breeder 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted March 19, 2020 It won't be me...... today's announcements around Corvid 19 has killed my business. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazach 133 Report post Posted March 19, 2020 No argument about farming still being our “backbone”, but generally speaking farmers have no interest in horses these days. The generation after WWll - through to the 1970s were only a generation removed from where horses were being used to work farms, hence they had a love for, and affinity with, horses. They also had small one man band farms allowing them the flexibility to pursue their horse passion. Blue 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingshill 233 Report post Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, bazach said: No argument about farming still being our “backbone”, but generally speaking farmers have no interest in horses these days. The generation after WWll - through to the 1970s were only a generation removed from where horses were being used to work farms, hence they had a love for, and affinity with, horses. They also had small one man band farms allowing them the flexibility to pursue their horse passion. Sad but true story - couple of farmer mates (one dairy, one arable) of mine wouldn't have a horse on either of their properties - Why? well one said to me - a good way to F.CK a paddock is to put a horse in it and the dairy farmer just wants every blade of grass to feed the cows to turn it into milk. bazach, Midget and dock leaf 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phar Lap Fan 104 Report post Posted March 23, 2020 What bazach and Kingshill said. Most dairy farms are minimum of 500 cows to be economic units nowadays. With farm manger/sharemilker/staff, who has time to play with horses? A generation lost to racing is never likely to return. slam dunk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted March 24, 2020 most farmers have a thumb and 4 fingers - watch out for the middle one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,089 Report post Posted March 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, von Smallhaussen said: most farmers have a thumb and 4 fingers - watch out for the middle one The middle thumb or the middle one of the four fingers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,026 Report post Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 8:59 PM, tripple alliance said: NZ race horse ownership could return to what it was in the 40s /50 / 60s . Back in those days rural race horse ownership was the back bone of the racing industry , those days have gone but looking at what's happening to the economy a huge turn around is very probable . City's and towns are in real trouble but it's possible rural NZ is about to shine . A couple of indicators , The kiwi was trading down 4 US cents at just US55.6c shortly after 5pm on Thursday .. OIL , Brent oil at an 18 year low , $26.65 a barrel . So currency well down , oil down well down , Rural NZ will be smiling and about to dominate the economy once again . City people and financial investors , all in the crap , unemployment expected to surge and with the currency down import costs will rise and then the share market , an example , CONTACT ENERGY , today $5.35 , was in November $8.80 , in short racing will need rural owners , it's likely they will be the ones with the money . If this situation eventuates those small town RURAL tracks with community backing that are currently under threat may be the saviour of racing , changing times . again . 26.65 Data as of Mar 18, 2020 9:50 PM ET Latest News Crude Extends Slide, Falling to 18-Year Low 26.65 Data as of Mar 18, 2020 9:50 PM ET Latest News Crude Extends Slide, Falling to 18-Year Low 25/3/20 "Dairy product exports to China remained high, but logs, meat, and fish exports were lower." Milk powder exports rose 28 per cent to $191 million, although quantities were little changed, he said. Forestry products were down $124 million or 27 per cent, while exports of fish fell 27 per cent to $47 million. meat exports fell 1.4 per cent, with higher quantities exported to the United States instead of China, Allan said.. The leading contributors to the fall in exports to China were untreated logs (down $80 million), sheep meat (down $73 million), beef (down $65 million), and fish (down $40 million). These falls were offset by a rise in milk powder, up $90 million on February 2019, led by a 30 per cent increase in average values. The quantity exported also rose, up 13 per cent. SO , Farmers are about to save the day once again , perhaps the farmer bashing will quieten down and if racing is lucky they might take a little time off and enjoy a day at the races (if that survives) and perhaps get involved in ownership again , they will be the only ones with the spare cash . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,026 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 On 3/26/2020 at 8:02 PM, tripple alliance said: NZ 25/3/20 "Dairy product exports to China remained high, but logs, meat, and fish exports were lower." Milk powder exports rose 28 per cent to $191 million, although quantities were little changed, he said. Forestry products were down $124 million or 27 per cent, while exports of fish fell 27 per cent to $47 million. meat exports fell 1.4 per cent, with higher quantities exported to the United States instead of China, Allan said.. The leading contributors to the fall in exports to China were untreated logs (down $80 million), sheep meat (down $73 million), beef (down $65 million), and fish (down $40 million). These falls were offset by a rise in milk powder, up $90 million on February 2019, led by a 30 per cent increase in average values. The quantity exported also rose, up 13 per cent. SO , Farmers are about to save the day once again , perhaps the farmer bashing will quieten down and if racing is lucky they might take a little time off and enjoy a day at the races (if that survives) and perhaps get involved in ownership again , they will be the only ones with the spare cash . And more promising new for NZ sheep and beef producers . " Shenzhen has become the first city in China to ban its residents from eating dog and cat meat after passing a ground breaking new law in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic . The legislation was passed Wednesday by lawmakers in Shenzhen, a city of more than 13 million people, and will take effect on May 1, according to a government notice. The annual Yulin Dog Meat Festival is one of the most controversial food festivals in China and sees thousands of dogs cruelly killed, skinned and cooked with blow-torches before being eaten by the locals , this is now cancelled . READS to me like NZ meat producers just found another 13 million customers . Tauhei Notts, von Smallhaussen and tasman man 11 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treat 63 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 Some of the comments on here are rather akin to our poxy government, regard "farming" as being all about dairy. Believe it or not there's actually still a hell of a lot of hill country sheep and beef farmers out there! I know lots of sheep and beef farmers with shares in horses, including friends that are in Jennifer Eccles. I am in several syndicates myself, plus 3 mares, 2 yearlings, 2 weanlings. If we could get a government that doesn't tar everyone with the same brush, had that rare thing called common sense, and stopped giving "subsidies" to all these overseas outfits to turn good sheep and beef breeding land into pine trees we would be going great!! What worries all us farmers is who the hell do you vote for??? Jacinda is a do gooder, Bridges has nothing appealing, Winston is an ineffective sellout, the Greens will put us all down the drain (after we've spent a fortune fencing hill country gullies off and end up with bugger all farm) Act........?? on more consideration, we probably are all stuffed!! dock leaf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,026 Report post Posted April 13, 2020 We are all wondering about the future of racing and many more are wondering about their futures in general , it's looking very bad for all so it would be no surprise to me if racing was cut in half in the next 6 months . . Kelvin Davis said last year that tourism was New Zealand's "largest export earner", contributing $39 billion to the economy each year and directly employing more than 200,000 people. According to the Tertiary Education Commission, international education "contributes $5.1b to the economy and is the country's fourth largest export earner" – it also supports about 50,000 jobs. That's around 250,000 jobs GONE and then the flow on effect to other businesses , UNEMPLOYMENT 300,000 ? any ones guess . Infrastructure and Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones said tourism and international education would no longer be major industries for New Zealand. THE END . THE FUTURE . The latest forecasts predict the primary sector's combined export revenue will reach $46.5b for the year ending in June – that's with Covid-19 taken into account, maybe ?. We are now heavily dependent upon our primary sector , we have very little else . So the days of farmer bashing are over , Farmers are all we have and it makes no sense to keep hammering them with increased compliance costs and the CARBON ZERO should be in the trash can , it's genuine rubbish . What's really troubling is the quality of the current government , I doubt any have experience in generating money other than taxation so effectively we are on ocean liner with the sea scouts at the helm going into a hurricane . Good luck racing , you are going to need it . Treat, Gruff, napier and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...