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Corona Virus Impact on Racing

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1 minute ago, Stables said:

Gruff you scoff, but all you post are useless lists of the various vacines available for diseases that have been around for generations. What do they proove? What is the releance to Covid19

What lists Stables? I agree lists are useless, evidence and the more elusive facts are required in any debate.The information is available for those who want to make the effort, you dont need to be told. 

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Bird Flu and Swine Flu were also corona viruses.  To continue on this path of media endorsed armageddon, will lead to it.  The virus is in the community already, possibly 200 people maybe 2,000, it is an AIRBORNE virus and it is not going anywhere.  We have no choice but to let it run its course, then when common sense returns, it will be relegated to all the other viruses in the community. Remember the common Flu doesn't disappear completely it merely subsides for the summer, to reappear the next winter. Humans gradually become more resistant and fatalities lessen.  This will be happen with the current virus.

Remember this is not EBOLA, this is not going to kill everyone, but sure as shooting, panic and chaotic behaviour will create an unstoppable movement which will fk up the majority of people.   

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3 minutes ago, Archer said:

Bird Flu and Swine Flu were also corona viruses.  To continue on this path of media endorsed armageddon, will lead to it.  The virus is in the community already, possibly 200 people maybe 2,000, it is an AIRBORNE virus and it is not going anywhere.  We have no choice but to let it run its course, then when common sense returns, it will be relegated to all the other viruses in the community. Remember the common Flu doesn't disappear completely it merely subsides for the summer, to reappear the next winter. Humans gradually become more resistant and fatalities lessen.  This will be happen with the current virus.

Remember this is not EBOLA, this is not going to kill everyone, but sure as shooting, panic and chaotic behaviour will create an unstoppable movement which will fk up the majority of people.   

Most people are not in panic , I've seen zero panic bar some bog roll stock up , they are following advice and buying a few weeks for health authorities to get a handle on it , see how the form plays out overseas and act .Age care have time to upgrade and drill down on systems . If it's all an overreaction  that will be fantastic news . 

People need to chill the hell out on bog roll though,  bizarre .

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Haven't purchased the new race form guide , anyone who has can they advise on suitability for arse wiping , size , smoothness , absorbability ratio , how many sheets paper would be recommended per wipe , sales could go up . I've got a ton of old race books kids will get through if required  , a couple will be on the protected list though. 

Incidentally with online punting up and races stopping someone mentioned in another thread  they beaming in Mexican dog racing , I couldn't find it on TAB site but the only official  track there  is in  Tijuana ( shit hole)   , Agua Caliente , look out for the ghost of Phar Lap as you watch them whiz round .

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1 hour ago, Archer said:

Bird Flu and Swine Flu were also corona viruses.  To continue on this path of media endorsed armageddon, will lead to it.  The virus is in the community already, possibly 200 people maybe 2,000, it is an AIRBORNE virus and it is not going anywhere.  We have no choice but to let it run its course, then when common sense returns, it will be relegated to all the other viruses in the community. Remember the common Flu doesn't disappear completely it merely subsides for the summer, to reappear the next winter. Humans gradually become more resistant and fatalities lessen.  This will be happen with the current virus.

Remember this is not EBOLA, this is not going to kill everyone, but sure as shooting, panic and chaotic behaviour will create an unstoppable movement which will fk up the majority of people.   

I think we all know that this flu strain will be around for ever, after getting it you will be immune (vaccine probably invented too).  However all this action is to smooth the graph so health system can cope.  

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1 minute ago, shaneMcAlister said:

I think we all know that this flu strain will be around for ever, after getting it you will be immune (vaccine probably invented too).  However all this action is to smooth the graph so health system can cope.  

Tough to break to kids today that footy off for a while after getting into the training for a few weeks and starting to get in the groove  , at least we can still get out for some exercise and still have a punt for now , it's in fact our  duty to help the  country finances by keeping punting .

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10 minutes ago, Red Rum said:

Tough to break to kids today that footy off for a while after getting into the training for a few weeks and starting to get in the groove  , at least we can still get out for some exercise and still have a punt for now , it's in fact our  duty to help the  country finances by keeping punting .

Worse in Aussie RR....:lol:

 

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2 hours ago, shaneMcAlister said:

I think we all know that this flu strain will be around for ever, after getting it you will be immune (vaccine probably invented too).  However all this action is to smooth the graph so health system can cope.  

If everyone becomes immune by vaccine or getting it, then it wont last forever.

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4 hours ago, Peter Harrop said:

If everyone becomes immune by vaccine or getting it, then it wont last forever.

Coronaviruses Mutate, there wont be a vaccine . But the two previous particularly the killer Camel virus didnt seem to transmit well . Isolate the sick and elderly, let it run its course with the younger and healthy during our warmer months while everybody stays working and we are laughing... but we are handbraking the inevitable ,closing in on Flu season while Borrowing Billions. Ashley Bloomfield is Rock and a hard place but his expertise is non communicable diseases with an unprecedented Communicable disease. :rcf-rich-1: Buckle in

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1 hour ago, Gruff said:

Coronaviruses Mutate, there wont be a vaccine . But the two previous particularly the killer Camel virus didnt seem to transmit well . Isolate the sick and elderly, let it run its course with the younger and healthy during our warmer months while everybody stays working and we are laughing... but we are handbraking the inevitable ,closing in on Flu season while Borrowing Billions. Ashley Bloomfield is Rock and a hard place but his expertise is non communicable diseases with an unprecedented Communicable disease. :rcf-rich-1: Buckle 

You're totally underestimating today's science. And also, your plan would see the health system completely overwhelmed. 

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21 minutes ago, Peter Harrop said:

You're totally underestimating today's science. And also, your plan would see the health system completely overwhelmed. 

How? The ones in hospitals are Elderly and or immunocompromised? Majority of people dont have secondary infection. Todays Science? Modern surgical techniques are incredible,vaccination is a different story. Please dont quote me how successful polio vacc was until youve studied it. Thanks Peter :rcfe-like:

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On 3/13/2020 at 3:52 PM, shaneMcAlister said:

Ireland have said that only trainer, one groom and one owner can attend races due to Coronavirus.  If this happens in NZ we could see a jump in crowd numbers.......

I have been drinking Corona Light and suffered no ill effects. Every 14 days I get another dozen. 

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21 hours ago, Peter Harrop said:

No they're not. They are influenza viruses with much less serious illness. 

Avian influenza A (H5N1) and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) coronavirus are infections that cause a severe viral pneumonia leading to acute respiratory dysfunction syndrome and carry a high case-fatality rate. We have investigated innate immune responses to both viruses using primary human macrophages and respiratory epithelial cells as in vitro models. In contrast to human influenza A H1NI viruses, the H5N1 viruses hyper-induce cytokines (tumour necrosis factor [TNF]alpha, interferon beta) and chemokines (IP10, MIP1alpha, MCP) in in vitro cultures of primary human macrophages. A similar differential effect is observed in primary human bronchial epithelial cells and in type 2 pneumocytes although TNFalpha is not induced in respiratory epithelial cells. The cell signalling pathways responsible for this differential effect remain to be explored. Preliminary data suggest that such differential signalling involves p38 MAP kinase rather than NF-kappaB. SARS coronavirus infection of primary human macrophages is associated with a strong induction of chemokines without an associated type 1 interferon response. These observations may be relevant in disease pathogenesis.

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