gubellini 3,993 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 RITA should follow the lead of Air NZ and slash staff numbers by 30%. Betting will plummet over the next few months. No doubt racing coal face participants will bear the brunt of this massive downturn when stakes are slashed next season. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Racing has a chance to fill the void with sports being put on hold . Lets face it not many people turn up at most meetings so they can still be a viable option on TV as the crowd has limited impact on the actual races.Racing has the opportunity to take centre stage . shaneMcAlister, GOM, Charlie Bukowski and 2 others 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,554 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Had a mate that thought he had the swine flu, so rung the health hotline, all he got was crackling. Baz (NZ), Ragamuffin, We're Doomed and 2 others 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, gubellini said: RITA should follow the lead of Air NZ and slash staff numbers by 30%. Betting will plummet over the next few months. No doubt racing coal face participants will bear the brunt of this massive downturn when stakes are slashed next season. Shouldn't they be slashing stakes distributions AND staff NOW? They are already essentially insolvent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winx21 70 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 trying to be positive racing has a chance here...no sport to bet on anywhere and a lot of people at home with nothing to do. Big risk though if any jockeys get this we will be shut down,then what??? For a lot of people barely hanging on out there, will be the final nail in the coffin,If racing gets shut down for 6 months what will happen with staff track riders etc? NZTR should be treating jockeys like kings and queens because if they get sick and have to self isolate we will be screwed shaneMcAlister, Baz (NZ) and THE TORCH 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Bidlake 760 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 It looks like the TAB are well organised if NZ racing stops, there is now a trackside 3 by the looks of things taking all sorts of racing. Was Mexico(I think) greyhounds today and I see Central Park Bags are just over an hour from kicking off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Bukowski 411 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Aaron Bidlake said: It looks like the TAB are well organised if NZ racing stops, there is now a trackside 3 by the looks of things taking all sorts of racing. Was Mexico(I think) greyhounds today and I see Central Park Bags are just over an hour from kicking off. where is this trackside 3 you speak of Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Bidlake 760 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Just on the website I think at the moment, I couldn't find it on TV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 UK dogs starting in ten minutes. Presume they intend to have betting on it soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 “. But nobody has ever been exposed to this before, which means nobody has any immunity to it.” mmunity /ɪˈmjuːnɪti/ noun 1.the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells We all have immunity and obviously immunocompromised and Elderly people less so Its ‘Common Sense’ if you are lacking in this you will be most at risk and more likely to be a risk to others, but trying to survive through this in itself will compromise best method. Educate, if you are waiting for a vaccine you are most at risk . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Historically once this Disease runs its ‘natural ‘ (depending on your exposure to Uncensored Magazine ) course and the numbers of infected are reduced dramatically Big Pharma will come up with a ‘vaccine’ ... I would Strongly advise reading all the literature around anything your introducing straight into your bloodstream( at least read the label)and then make a Choice that best suits you and your family. ....It is YOUR Choice To make an informed decision about medical care and medical treatment is not only your right but your responsibility. If you are a parent or primary care-giver it is a right and a responsibility that you hold on behalf of the child or children in your care. According the New Zealand Ministry of Health (MoH) “Consent is a fundamental concept in the provision of health care services, including immunisation.” The critical issue is whether or not that consent is informed. Health professionals in New Zealand have a legal obligation to obtain informed consent before any medical treatment or procedure, including vaccination. Informed consent can only be provided by a patient or caregiver (parent) when the patient or caregiver has considered all the information pertaining to the risks and benefits of the proposed treatment or procedure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,024 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gruff said: Historically once this Disease runs its ‘natural ‘ (depending on your exposure to Uncensored Magazine ) course and the numbers of infected are reduced dramatically Big Pharma will come up with a ‘vaccine’ ... I would Strongly advise reading all the literature around anything your introducing straight into your bloodstream( at least read the label)and then make a Choice that best suits you and your family. ....It is YOUR Choice To make an informed decision about medical care and medical treatment is not only your right but your responsibility. If you are a parent or primary care-giver it is a right and a responsibility that you hold on behalf of the child or children in your care. According the New Zealand Ministry of Health (MoH) “Consent is a fundamental concept in the provision of health care services, including immunisation.” The critical issue is whether or not that consent is informed. Health professionals in New Zealand have a legal obligation to obtain informed consent before any medical treatment or procedure, including vaccination. Informed consent can only be provided by a patient or caregiver (parent) when the patient or caregiver has considered all the information pertaining to the risks and benefits of the proposed treatment or procedure. Yes consent is important and people will choose to be vaccinated or not but it's also peoples right to stay healthy and not be endangered by people who choose not to be vaccinated (assuming a vaccine exists) . I would suggest as time goes by and infections fall those who refuse vaccination be placed in isolation , it's NOT their right to infect others or prolong any virus . As an example ,their choices are similar to people who drive dangerous cars or drive under the influence and endanger or cause the death of others , penalty's exist for these people , those who choose to endanger others by not vaccinating should also face penalty's . In Wellington somes island was once a quarantine centre , perhaps that can be reopened and those who choose not to vaccinate will be moved there . Racing could easily be wiped out if the downturn in the economy is as great as I suspect it's going to be , the problem for trade is a double edged sword , even if we control the virus here the financial downturn won't reverse until our trading partners also get their problems under control . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,095 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 One thing I'm heartily sick of is the constant bombardment of computer enhanced human sized memes with horns and fangs, breathing fire and purporting to be examples of the cv. Nothing quite like appealing to the emotions. As said previously if one jockey gets it, its game over. Can greyhounds catch it too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,719 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 There's a thought Blue - wall to wall greyhounds at Eden Park. Ground is floodlit so they can run it 24/7. Big dressing room complex so dogs can be kennelled on site. No.2 ground can be used for training purposes. Gruff and Patiti 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, tripple alliance said: Yes consent is important and people will choose to be vaccinated or not but it's also peoples right to stay healthy and not be endangered by people who choose not to be vaccinated (assuming a vaccine exists) . I would suggest as time goes by and infections fall those who refuse vaccination be placed in isolation , it's NOT their right to infect others or prolong any virus . As an example ,their choices are similar to people who drive dangerous cars or drive under the influence and endanger or cause the death of others , penalty's exist for these people , those who choose to endanger others by not vaccinating should also face penalty's . In Wellington somes island was once a quarantine centre , perhaps that can be reopened and those who choose not to vaccinate will be moved there . Racing could easily be wiped out if the downturn in the economy is as great as I suspect it's going to be , the problem for trade is a double edged sword , even if we control the virus here the financial downturn won't reverse until our trading partners also get their problems under control . If you think Vaccines work why would an unvaccinated person pose a threat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,024 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Gruff said: If you think Vaccines work why would an unvaccinated person pose a threat? That's easy , some people can't be vaccinated because existing medical problems . The recent measles out break is a classic example of what happens when vaccinations are missed . How many 100s of millions have these listed vaccines saved ? . Sooner or later a vaccine will be found for this and racing might be saved but until then it's in real danger of becoming a tv only event . Only a couple of weeks and the Manawatu sires produce will be run , I suspect it will be TV only . Virus Diseases or conditions Vaccine(s) Brands Dengue virus Dengue fever Dengue vaccine Dengvaxia Hepatitis A virus Hepatitis A Hepatitis A vaccine Havrix, Avaxim, VAQTA, Epaxal, Twinrix, Biovac-A Hepatitis B virus Hepatitis B Hepatitis B vaccine Sci-B-Vac. Engerix-B, Recombivax HB, Elovac B, Genevac B, Shanvac B, Twinrix, Comvax, Pediarix, Pentabio, Quinvaxem, Pentavac PFS, Easyfive TT, Shan-5, ComBE Five Hepatitis E virus Hepatitis E Hepatitis E vaccine Hecolin Human papillomavirus Cervical cancer, Genital warts, anogenital cancers HPV vaccine Cervarix, Gardasil Influenza virus Influenza Influenza vaccine FluMist, Fluzone, Influvac, Vaxigrip, Fluarix, Fluvirin, FluLaval, Agriflu, Flubio Japanese encephalitis virus Japanese encephalitis Japanese encephalitis vaccine Ixiaro, Jespect, Imojev, JEvax, Jenvac, Jeev, Encevac Measles virus Measles Measles vaccine, MMR vaccine, MMRV vaccine Priorix, MMR II, Tresivac, Trimovax, ProQuad, Priorix Tetra Mumps virus Mumps Mumps vaccine, MMR vaccine, MMRV vaccine Priorix, MMR II, Tresivac, Trimovax, ProQuad, Priorix Tetra Polio virus Poliomyelitis Polio vaccine Kinrix, Quadracel, Pediarix, Pentacel, Pediacel, Ipol Rabies virus Rabies Rabies vaccine Imovax, RabAvert, Rabipur, Abhayrab, Speeda, Verorab, Rabivax Rotavirus Rotaviral gastroenteritis Rotavirus vaccine Rotateq, Rotarix Rubella virus Rubella Rubella vaccine, MMR vaccine, MMRV vaccine Priorix, MMR II, Tresivac, Trimovax, ProQuad Tick-borne encephalitis virus Tick-borne encephalitis Tick-borne encephalitis vaccine FSME-Immun, Encepur, TBE-Moscow, EnceVi Varicella zoster virus Chickenpox, Shingles Varicella vaccine, Shingles vaccine, MMRV vaccine Varivax, Zostavax, ProQuad, Priorix Tetra Variola virus Smallpox Smallpox vaccine Dryvax, ACAM2000, Imvanex Yellow fever Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berri 2,131 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 You're all talking crap when the flames are building up around you. UK and French racing has stopped, as are races in most of the US states. Racing Victoria puts out a message to all its owners letting them know what's going on. In NZ....nothing material. We are being too complacent because it isn't the fact whether you die or not, its the fact that human behaviour is predictable and that predictability is being demonstrated around the World. One of the real issues is about when you get sick. If it all happens at once, then there are not enough facilities or equipment available. That is my greatest worry (apart from my family dying). So get your heads together. Get prepared because if you do, you'll help stagger the load to a manageable level. If you don't, you'll simply be saying, if only I had done a bit more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripple alliance 1,024 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Berri said: You're all talking crap when the flames are building up around you. UK and French racing has stopped, as are races in most of the US states. Racing Victoria puts out a message to all its owners letting them know what's going on. In NZ....nothing material. We are being too complacent because it isn't the fact whether you die or not, its the fact that human behaviour is predictable and that predictability is being demonstrated around the World. One of the real issues is about when you get sick. If it all happens at once, then there are not enough facilities or equipment available. That is my greatest worry (apart from my family dying). So get your heads together. Get prepared because if you do, you'll help stagger the load to a manageable level. If you don't, you'll simply be saying, if only I had done a bit more. I have no problem with racing or any other event being a closed shop but ultimately the Brits approach might not be as silly as first seemed . As for us we may dodge a bullet but only short tern , we may eliminate it but if the rest of the world still has it then we are still in the crap , closing boarders won't last forever , two way traffic and it's back again . You must have been impressed with the very long list of life saving vaccines , let's hope a vaccine is found for this problem if not we are returning to the 30/40s/50s , that's all that can happen if a vaccine isn't found quickly . Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEXDJX: .DJI Follow 20,188.52 −2,997.10 (12.93%) 16 Mar, 4:20 pm GMT-4 · Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Get used to it. EVERYTHING will be locked down eventually. NZ is uniquely situated to be Corvid-19 free. It’s an Island nation inhabited by less people than the City of Melbourne. Apart from Auckland, the population is spread out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 Any vacine to protect against the coronavirus will be at least 18 months away Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, tripple alliance said: That's easy , some people can't be vaccinated because existing medical problems . The recent measles out break is a classic example of what happens when vaccinations are missed . How many 100s of millions have these listed vaccines saved ? . Sooner or later a vaccine will be found for this and racing might be saved but until then it's in real danger of becoming a tv only event . Only a couple of weeks and the Manawatu sires produce will be run , I suspect it will be TV only . Virus Diseases or conditions Vaccine(s) Brands Dengue virus Dengue fever Dengue vaccine Dengvaxia Hepatitis A virus Hepatitis A Hepatitis A vaccine Havrix, Avaxim, VAQTA, Epaxal, Twinrix, Biovac-A Hepatitis B virus Hepatitis B Hepatitis B vaccine Sci-B-Vac. Engerix-B, Recombivax HB, Elovac B, Genevac B, Shanvac B, Twinrix, Comvax, Pediarix, Pentabio, Quinvaxem, Pentavac PFS, Easyfive TT, Shan-5, ComBE Five Hepatitis E virus Hepatitis E Hepatitis E vaccine Hecolin Human papillomavirus Cervical cancer, Genital warts, anogenital cancers HPV vaccine Cervarix, Gardasil Influenza virus Influenza Influenza vaccine FluMist, Fluzone, Influvac, Vaxigrip, Fluarix, Fluvirin, FluLaval, Agriflu, Flubio Japanese encephalitis virus Japanese encephalitis Japanese encephalitis vaccine Ixiaro, Jespect, Imojev, JEvax, Jenvac, Jeev, Encevac Measles virus Measles Measles vaccine, MMR vaccine, MMRV vaccine Priorix, MMR II, Tresivac, Trimovax, ProQuad, Priorix Tetra Mumps virus Mumps Mumps vaccine, MMR vaccine, MMRV vaccine Priorix, MMR II, Tresivac, Trimovax, ProQuad, Priorix Tetra Polio virus Poliomyelitis Polio vaccine Kinrix, Quadracel, Pediarix, Pentacel, Pediacel, Ipol Rabies virus Rabies Rabies vaccine Imovax, RabAvert, Rabipur, Abhayrab, Speeda, Verorab, Rabivax Rotavirus Rotaviral gastroenteritis Rotavirus vaccine Rotateq, Rotarix Rubella virus Rubella Rubella vaccine, MMR vaccine, MMRV vaccine Priorix, MMR II, Tresivac, Trimovax, ProQuad Tick-borne encephalitis virus Tick-borne encephalitis Tick-borne encephalitis vaccine FSME-Immun, Encepur, TBE-Moscow, EnceVi Varicella zoster virus Chickenpox, Shingles Varicella vaccine, Shingles vaccine, MMRV vaccine Varivax, Zostavax, ProQuad, Priorix Tetra Variola virus Smallpox Smallpox vaccine Dryvax, ACAM2000, Imvanex Yellow fever Your knowledge on this subject is limited. Im sure your no fool, but im also sure you have very little exposure on the subject matter and that is obvious .Education is Key Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stables said: Any vacine to protect against the coronavirus will be at least 18 months away Sars was 2003 and are still waiting . Come on Stables your better than that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) This is the reported situation from researchers in this area. The virus DNA has been isolated and some trials of a vacine have begun but due to legal and production requirements the information is that any vacine will be about 18 months away before it is widely available. In addition it has not been established that people who have had the virus will be immunised against reinfection Edited March 16, 2020 by Stables not completed when accidentally posted Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 The most important message we can take from this is no matter how clever we think mankind is Nature will always have it's way. If you think about all the problems facing the modern world and mankind's feeble efforts to right them this virus addresses a lot. Gruff, Ragamuffin, Pam Robson and 1 other 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted March 17, 2020 2 hours ago, GOM said: The most important message we can take from this is no matter how clever we think mankind is Nature will always have it's way. If you think about all the problems facing the modern world and mankind's feeble efforts to right them this virus addresses a lot. When the vaccine comes more problems. Those with capital will borrow more to cash in on the huge increase in the sharemarket creating more division. Reports are out that Trump is trying to hijack the cure for Americans only or at least Americans first. Not convinced nature brought about this catastrophe. 20 years ago there was big debate about bio weapons so that any development would have gone underground and top secret. Ragamuffin 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...