eljay 1,711 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 Are trainers saying "we don't want miles"?? Hunter the punter 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione 77 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 Somebody is saying something? But who is listening? Hunter the punter 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, eljay said: Are trainers saying "we don't want miles"?? I heard a few months back that the 'mile' experiment was' quite popular' or 'going well'. Kinda obvious with only 58 noms for 9 races , that the trainers are not being spoken too . One race now has ZERO noms , another 1.....its a disgrace. Has any 'feedback' been sought from trainers. Its the same old story....gets boring talking about it on here. Things would have already 'hit the wall' if RDunn and MHouse had not ventured north . Does anyone care ? I emailed the CEO recently about lack of horses in North and he assures me they are working on it ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilli 81 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 I bet an Amateur Drivers Race would have more than zero/1 nomination. Hunter the punter 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie 325 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 I know the Race has 11 nominations, but a standing start maiden trot over a mile? Really? Mikie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 Auckland = 58 noms Addington = 136 Banks Peninsula (grass) = 213 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,824 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 Perhaps someone could explain something to this simple soul. No noms for the fillies and mares maiden (surely a first) but four fillies and mares nominated for the all sexes maiden over the same distance for the same stake. Surely that is a bit strange. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: Perhaps someone could explain something to this simple soul. No noms for the fillies and mares maiden (surely a first) but four fillies and mares nominated for the all sexes maiden over the same distance for the same stake. Surely that is a bit strange. Originally the 4 females were nominated for fillies only....there was 60 in total for the night. Couple hours later the 4 were transferred to race boys with PBD...noms then went down to 58. One dropped out of main trot. Surely there will be extra noms before fields close tomorrow....probably horses just making up the numbers , more of a trial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 6 hours ago, tasman man 11 said: Originally the 4 females were nominated for fillies only....there was 60 in total for the night. Couple hours later the 4 were transferred to race boys with PBD...noms then went down to 58. One dropped out of main trot. Surely there will be extra noms before fields close tomorrow....probably horses just making up the numbers , more of a trial. In my experience, they don't often get many extra noms by extending the time. That's because they're not pro-actively chasing them by ringing trainers - they just seem to sit back and hope! john legend 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 Down to 55 noms - 5 races. Surely the first thing they must do is report to members why, what is going on, whats being done to improve the situation- and next week there are meetings at both Cambridge (Thursday) and Auckland (Friday). No good saying the old "we are looking at it" - I think everyone wants action and urgency. john legend and JJ Flash 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, eljay said: Down to 55 noms - 5 races. Surely the first thing they must do is report to members why, what is going on, whats being done to improve the situation- and next week there are meetings at both Cambridge (Thursday) and Auckland (Friday). No good saying the old "we are looking at it" - I think everyone wants action and urgency. Email CEO eljay......let him know what members are feeling ! I did. Does anyone care ? This problem hasn't just suddenly came out of nowhere ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,114 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Taku Umanga said: Auckland = 58 noms Addington = 136 Banks Peninsula (grass) = 213 So owners and trainers moan about stakes levels yet are not prepared to run when the money is put up. 8-9 k races at Mot attract 213 noms. NZMTC have 10 k minimums and top race worth 20 K yet they only get 127 noms. To me that just smacks of amateur behaviour or plain stupidity IMHO. Greg Rusty 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 Ultimate disgrace 68 horses race today at Palmie!! JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john legend 735 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 surely they ring most trainers !...was always important when noms light to ring round and ask(beg) for horses for the meet. If they don't as you suggest Taku then that would be extremely poor.. When I used to one problem was some trainers (clever buggers) would say yes will bring 2 down but second one got no form but guarantee a start for both and good draws, and will come !. (always worked out by some "miracle" lol) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterEd 323 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: So owners and trainers moan about stakes levels yet are not prepared to run when the money is put up. 8-9 k races at Mot attract 213 noms. NZMTC have 10 k minimums and top race worth 20 K yet they only get 127 noms. To me that just smacks of amateur behaviour or plain stupidity IMHO. Greg Or is it the fact the atmosphere is better on course, the dividends are better and the racing is more exciting and better to watch on grass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted March 9, 2020 I don't think owners are consulted, many trainers just do as they like, it's as if the owner has given up their ownership when they give their horse to a trainer Rusty 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,114 Report post Posted March 10, 2020 5 hours ago, MisterEd said: Or is it the fact the atmosphere is better on course, the dividends are better and the racing is more exciting and better to watch on grass. So your in the amateur behavior camp?? And I'm not saying that's a bad thing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterEd 323 Report post Posted March 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: So your in the amateur behavior camp?? And I'm not saying that's a bad thing I am saying the numbers speak for themselves. Grass tracks in the Canterbury area seem to attract 200+ noms every time they are on. Maybe HRNZ, Addington Auckland should be asking the question why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
One more lap 91 Report post Posted March 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Stables said: I don't think owners are consulted, many trainers just do as they like, it's as if the owner has given up their ownership when they give their horse to a trainer That is a very true statement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 575 Report post Posted March 10, 2020 5 hours ago, MisterEd said: I am saying the numbers speak for themselves. Grass tracks in the Canterbury area seem to attract 200+ noms every time they are on. Maybe HRNZ, Addington Auckland should be asking the question why? I just can't be arsed looking at the moment, I'm too lazy... but is the reason there are more noms at the Mot than the Met, due to the ratings system offerings? E.g more lower class races are scheduled at the Mot than the Met, so more horses are entered there, than the higher class of ratings on offer at the Met? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted March 10, 2020 Precisely. They are catering for a different class of horse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Poutama 5 Report post Posted March 10, 2020 We would love to have horses suitable for nights like these. Unfortunately we can only be competitive at Cambridge. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 575 Report post Posted March 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, A Poutama said: We would love to have horses suitable for nights like these. Unfortunately we can only be competitive at Cambridge. What type (other than fast) of horse would be suited to nights like these? The highest assessed horse accepted for the night is R64 and there are 2 maiden races out of the 5 races. With all respect to connections, the fields aren't exactly chocka block of classy performers. Not a fan of mile racing myself, but I would have thought the sprint trip would have evened out the playing field a bit, especially with PBDs in use. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Poutama 5 Report post Posted March 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, Rusty said: What type (other than fast) of horse would be suited to nights like these? The highest assessed horse accepted for the night is R64 and there are 2 maiden races out of the 5 races. With all respect to connections, the fields aren't exactly chocka block of classy performers. Not a fan of mile racing myself, but I would have thought the sprint trip would have evened out the playing field a bit, especially with PBDs in use. Speed and the distance. We don’t like what’s happening up here either it puts young trainers in an anxious position as well Rusty 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilli 81 Report post Posted March 10, 2020 Andre,I believe you would be very successful if you mirrored Peter Ferguson and became Dual Code Trainer with some Greyhounds. Rusty 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...