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C. S. Hayes Stakes........

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14 hours ago, Trump said:

Super Seth might be trying to avoid “Gator Country”! :) 

It will probably not have escaped you Trumpy that Chenier is from the same stable.....astute trainer that Freedman. Anything he lines up worth a look..;)

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23 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

It will probably not have escaped you Trumpy that Chenier is from the same stable.....astute trainer that Freedman. Anything he lines up worth a look..;)

Personally, I think that Chenier is the main danger to Alligator Blood in the Aust Guineas. This is his race to come over the top of the Gator. He’s bred to do it and you’d expect that D Oliver, the FLEMINGTON specialist, will have his mount in the right spot at the turn to come at AB. Being out of a Zabeel mare is also a plus!! 

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2 hours ago, Trump said:

Personally, I think that Chenier is the main danger to Alligator Blood in the Aust Guineas. This is his race to come over the top of the Gator. He’s bred to do it and you’d expect that D Oliver, the FLEMINGTON specialist, will have his mount in the right spot at the turn to come at AB. Being out of a Zabeel mare is also a plus!! 

How many beers you had today fella !!!!!

The Catalyst will be the one, he’s the big improver and Chenier is far worse off weight wise in the Guineas 

Ridden patiently ( hopefully from a good draw ) the little Kiwi will flog the Aussie pretenders 

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2 hours ago, poundforpound said:

How many beers you had today fella !!!!!

The Catalyst will be the one, he’s the big improver and Chenier is far worse off weight wise in the Guineas 

Ridden patiently ( hopefully from a good draw ) the little Kiwi will flog the Aussie pretenders 

History has been made... the Mustelid agrees with p4p. Catalyst came into that race off the back of a trip overseas, giving weight, unfamiliar with Flemington, with an unfamiliar jock aboard, covered more ground, and is likely to go better at the longer trip. 

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On 2/16/2020 at 6:45 AM, poundforpound said:

It’s incredibly hard to sprint twice in a race, as in the first furlong and the last furlong

If he gets a draw, and does no work early, next time you’ll see his withering sprint.

He’s the real deal

Have to disagree

It basically turned out a 300m sprint race. so as it turns out the first 2 in the running had the best runs, coming home the last  600 in 33.31 faster

than the open sprinters hence the back markers had no show.

The Caufield Guineas replay will show the first 2 home are far from certain to run the quinella next time.

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8 hours ago, poundforpound said:

How many beers you had today fella !!!!!

The Catalyst will be the one, he’s the big improver and Chenier is far worse off weight wise in the Guineas 

Ridden patiently ( hopefully from a good draw ) the little Kiwi will flog the Aussie pretenders 

It was warm at golf today Peefor, so GNT was the go on course with plenty of ice and lemon! Just beware my friend - blind faith has brought many a person unstuck! I think Chenier is the main threat to Alligator in the Guineas. If Catalyst does the job - I’ll still be happy with the $4.60 I backed him at. But I’m worried :( 

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And just like that, he’s in! B)

Top 10 for the All Star Mile

Alligator Blood

Aristia

Catalyst

Dalasan

Heart of Puissance

Kolding

Melody Belle

Mr Quickie

Star Missile

Super Seth

What a field??! Quality personified. B)

But first, the entree of the Guineas. ;)

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Guineas field looks like it’s going to be a select one similar to the C.S. Hayes (perhaps 7 or 8 runners).

Fingers crossed Catalyst draws inside AB and we get to see his turn of foot this time. B)

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6 hours ago, CT"s said:

Guineas field looks like it’s going to be a select one similar to the C.S. Hayes (perhaps 7 or 8 runners).

Fingers crossed Catalyst draws inside AB and we get to see his turn of foot this time. B)

sorry, but all this hyped-up nonsense about the Draw (insIde or outside AB) is CRAP. If Catalyst is good enough, he'll win. End of story.. 

Especially in a field of 7 or 8. They race at set weights, both have to handle the same conditions - if it's wet an outside draw might help the horse with the wider draw, and vice versa.

HOW WELL they jump is a different matter. Dunn and the horse! wont want to be half-asleep at the get-go. But it's 1600m, not 1400m...and I have a feeling Catalyst will outlast AB, whatever the outcome of the first 200m. Exciting times!

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6 hours ago, CT"s said:

Guineas field looks like it’s going to be a select one similar to the C.S. Hayes (perhaps 7 or 8 runners).

Fingers crossed Catalyst draws inside AB and we get to see his turn of foot this time. B)

If Catalyst draws the inside he’ll be blocked in. I’d like to see him mid field. AB is a very special horse and he will be hard to run down. If they’re talking Cox Plates over 2040m, the 1600m at FLEMINGTON will be a breeze. The opposition are lucky the race is not at Caulfield - the most bias race track in Melbourne - if not Oz! A front runners paradise. The good thing about The Gator is that if necessary, he can sit back in 5th or 6th spot. Watch his GC MM win.

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1 hour ago, Trump said:

If Catalyst draws the inside he’ll be blocked in. I’d like to see him mid field. AB is a very special horse and he will be hard to run down. If they’re talking Cox Plates over 2040m, the 1600m at FLEMINGTON will be a breeze. The opposition are lucky the race is not at Caulfield - the most bias race track in Melbourne - if not Oz! A front runners paradise. The good thing about The Gator is that if necessary, he can sit back in 5th or 6th spot. Watch his GC MM win.

why on earth would Catalyst be 'blocked in' from the inside draw? He has the speed to lead if desired. 

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1 hour ago, Trump said:

If Catalyst draws the inside he’ll be blocked in. I’d like to see him mid field. AB is a very special horse and he will be hard to run down. If they’re talking Cox Plates over 2040m, the 1600m at FLEMINGTON will be a breeze. The opposition are lucky the race is not at Caulfield - the most bias race track in Melbourne - if not Oz! A front runners paradise. The good thing about The Gator is that if necessary, he can sit back in 5th or 6th spot. Watch his GC MM win.

Mmmm...Catalyst ran his last 600 in 32.19 when he easily won the Group 1 in NZ.

Super Seth only had to go 35.22 to beat AB. Still keen Trumpy....? :P

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6 minutes ago, weasel57 said:

why on earth would Catalyst be 'blocked in' from the inside draw? He has the speed to lead if desired. 

I’m a believer he’s best ridden quiet. If he leads he will lose.

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3 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

Mmmm...Catalyst ran his last 600 in 32.19 when he won the Group 1. Super Seth only had to go 35.22 to beat AB. Still keen Trumpy....? :P

Forget the times in NZ Ohokason. The Telegraph winners always run extraordinary times but can’t blow smoke up anyones arse anywhere else in the world. Times mean nothing in the heat of battle. If Catalyst was the “Superstar “ a lot of you are espousing, then why couldn’t he run down Alligator Blood after The Gator did it from end to end last start?

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