Trump 2,741 Report post Posted February 18, 2020 I bet Harvey Winestain wishes he was being tried in NZ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanthegreat 1,123 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 SENTENCING FOR THE KILLER TOMMOROW......... YEEEEEHAAAA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 150 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 And I remain baffled as to why this thread is under thoroughbred racing???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,114 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ludwig said: And I remain baffled as to why this thread is under thoroughbred racing???? Presumably because the named one has made a contribution to the game and society over many decades.Principles matter in a democratic society IMHO Greg ADM and Insider 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 150 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Oops, maybe because the RIU is involved ( they are ) Watch what happens once the dust settles here Cool. Thanks for explaining. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weasel57 429 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 On 2/8/2020 at 8:24 PM, poundforpound said: TA if you don’t know what’s going on I think you should zip it ..... just some friendly advice ..... otherwise I can recommend a good spatula supplier to help get the egg off your face ha ha saith the Mustelid...you see, TA can comment all he likes about this matter, whereas you cannot (or should not), for your own good...and that must really squeeze your orange! MM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, weasel57 said: ha ha saith the Mustelid...you see, TA can comment all he likes about this matter, whereas you cannot (or should not), for your own good...and that must really squeeze your orange! MM Just a technical question. Are jail inmates still able to contribute to forums such as racecafe? weasel57 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weasel57 429 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 Bbecause the convicted killer is to be sentenced tomorrow morning, the Mustelid thought we could all use a 'refresh' on why continued name suppression is likely ....this from NZ Herald court reporter Sam Hurley New Zealand judges use a particular section of the Criminal Procedure Act to stop the publication of the identifying details for people charged with, convicted or acquitted of, an offence. A judge has to be satisfied publication would be likely to result in at least one of the following outcomes: • Cause extreme hardship to the person charged with, or convicted of, or acquitted of the offence, or any person connected with that person. • Cast suspicion on another person that may cause undue hardship to that person. • Cause undue hardship to any victim of the offence. • Create a real risk of prejudice to a fair trial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,762 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 Still have no idea why the name suppression continues.... https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/410023/grace-millane-murderer-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-with-a-minimum-non-parole-period-of-17-years Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Still have no idea why the name suppression continues.... https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/410023/grace-millane-murderer-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-with-a-minimum-non-parole-period-of-17-years Is name suppression not because he has other cases to face. If knowing his name increases the possibility of mistrials then that would not be fair on other victims. I personally don't care if he has name suppression or not. He is in jail where he should be. Memphis2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Still have no idea why the name suppression continues.... https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/410023/grace-millane-murderer-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-with-a-minimum-non-parole-period-of-17-years Don’t worry Ohokason, at least we know the name of the Victim, Grace Millane and that she was a tourist visiting NZ and that she liked to go on dating sites to meet people and that she apparently enjoying engaging in a bit of BDSM (whatever that means?) and that her Mom is devastated etc etc and NZers are shocked yet it’s “Ludicrous” that we should expect to have name suppression of the Guilty murderer lifted. So no sweat. There are obviously extenuating circumstances behind the reasons for the name suppression old son. Accept it. That’s what the bright eyed lefties in the legal system want you to do. It’s cool. shaneMcAlister 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, poundforpound said: Typical stupidity from you. Ask David Bain, Arthur Allan Thomas, Teina Pora, OJ Simpson, Michael Jackson.......Fair trials have nothing to do with suppression orders While I am aware it is easy enough to find his name. There are still a lot of people that would not easily find his name . So with name suppression you could still get a jury that have no awareness of his other crimes. Which is what you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, poundforpound said: Yet again you talk shite.....it’s common for Police to publicly name offenders to flush out other victims....eg George Pell....get your facts right FW They have another case already. Once this is done then name will come our and flush out any further ones. While Grace and her family are victims, other known victims deserve a fair trial too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,420 Report post Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, poundforpound said: Victims aren’t on trial...unless you’re Grace Millane being victim shamed by the NZ judicial system A fair trial in that fact that the accused is trialed fairly and the reduce the possibility of mistrial. I think where this went wrong was Grace should have had name suppression too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,762 Report post Posted February 21, 2020 So there is a court order on name suppression, and another one on the reasons for the suppression. If there are other offences/trials in the offing, he can’t have any complaints...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 150 Report post Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 3:49 PM, Ludwig said: And I remain baffled as to why this thread is under thoroughbred racing???? Well done, Mr Moderator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,762 Report post Posted March 18, 2020 He must be joking.......more costs incurred pointlessly...... https://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=308297 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted March 18, 2020 Well, he probably gets legal aid paid for by the govt and many legals may milk the system. You know, advise a “unanimous Guilty” person there’s a chance of getting off on appeal. It’s a lucrative profession. I’m of the firm belief that the law should be changed so that any unanimous guilty verdicts are unable to be appealed - except where “new and impelling” evidence puts serious doubt on the original verdict. JMHO. Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,762 Report post Posted March 24, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 9:22 AM, poundforpound said: No ... Judge Simon Moore and Inspector Scott Beard shouldn’t have allowed the murderers defence team to “slut shame” Grace and humiliate her family Had the sexual history been suppressed, as it should have been, at Moore’s instruction, the press wouldn’t have been able to use that sordid rubbish to titillate their readers to attract “clicks” Note Moore and Beard are both trying to distance themselves from that disgraceful and shameful behaviour now .... too late... they facilitated it because they lack empathy and sensitivity That’s sub conscious white misogyny at work right there Sound familiar.....? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-51852614 Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...