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JJ Flash

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FFS. We have fields out for both Interdoms and NZ Met on HRNZ website. It became immediately obvious to me they have made a cock up with reinsman R T May. Hes down as driving in Race 8 at Addington which is scheduled for 9.24. Concurrently they have him down to drive A G's White Socks at Alexandra Park at 9.40 . Someones got this very wrong.

 

Greg

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The racing secretaries enter last driver when they have a spare moment over a coffee and then hope they don't have to change too many after declaration time.      With the  TAB's rule of no refunds at a later time pays to disregard the clubs advices until after driver declaration time - especially if you back drivers.

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57 minutes ago, Spikecity said:

Tim Williams will be on the same plane as Ricky

Well spotted. Tim will definitely be in Auckland  but who know what RTM is doing. Probably better off staying at Met given the dearth of top drivers there on Friday and the current form of his only drive up there AG W S even with the B Purdon polish on

 

Greg

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You know this happens every week, aye JJ? 

I'm all for a good criticism when justified, but this post is so far off the mark in it's direction and intent it's not funny. 

When fields are first produced onto the HRNZ website, last start drivers are automatically upload with the first update. You'll see blank driver spaces at this stage because there is likely to be a conflict in driver as in, multiple drives in each race, suspended drivers, ineligible drivers etc... once drivers are confirmed to the Club, then the appropriate actions are undertaken. 

Second point....

Driver allocations and bookings aren't handled by HRNZ. These are done by the respective racing secretaries who update as they are provided the information from trainers. 

As mentioned above, never pay too much attention until the cut-off for driver notifications. 

Is there a flaw in this process that led you to think this? Quite possibly. But it would be far worse if it was still showing RT as driving at both meetings today as opposed to yesterday morning before driver notifications closed.  Perhaps no drivers should be automatically uploaded until confirmation time. Then, in most cases - you'll have no drivers listed in publications and newspapers. 

 

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28 minutes ago, Counter Punch said:

You know this happens every week, aye JJ? 

I'm all for a good criticism when justified, but this post is so far off the mark in it's direction and intent it's not funny. 

When fields are first produced onto the HRNZ website, last start drivers are automatically upload with the first update. You'll see blank driver spaces at this stage because there is likely to be a conflict in driver as in, multiple drives in each race, suspended drivers, ineligible drivers etc... once drivers are confirmed to the Club, then the appropriate actions are undertaken. 

Second point....

Driver allocations and bookings aren't handled by HRNZ. These are done by the respective racing secretaries who update as they are provided the information from trainers. 

As mentioned above, never pay too much attention until the cut-off for driver notifications. 

Is there a flaw in this process that led you to think this? Quite possibly. But it would be far worse if it was still showing RT as driving at both meetings today as opposed to yesterday morning before driver notifications closed.  Perhaps no drivers should be automatically uploaded until confirmation time. Then, in most cases - you'll have no drivers listed in publications and newspapers. 

 

No disrespect Matt but gallops have no issues  getting declared riders in plenty of time.

Perhaps HRNZ should take a lesson from the TB code on tbis matter

 

Greg 

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2 hours ago, JJ Flash said:

No disrespect Matt but gallops have no issues  getting declared riders in plenty of time.

Perhaps HRNZ should take a lesson from the TB code on tbis matter

 

Greg 

Again, you point in the wrong direction. It's the clubs who aren't doing what you desire.

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43 minutes ago, Counter Punch said:

Again, you point in the wrong direction. It's the clubs who aren't doing what you desire.

Again with respect its a case currently of the dog wagging the tail. HRNZ should not be posting fields and drivers which are incorrect. The clubs need to get active, be precise and hand over driver inclusive fields way before they currently do. Its simply cant be that hard in this day and age.

 In the TB code you have to declare jockeys at acceptance time, so what the difference:rcfe-dislike:

 

Greg

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10 hours ago, JJ Flash said:

Again with respect its a case currently of the dog wagging the tail. HRNZ should not be posting fields and drivers which are incorrect. The clubs need to get active, be precise and hand over driver inclusive fields way before they currently do. Its simply cant be that hard in this day and age.

 In the TB code you have to declare jockeys at acceptance time, so what the difference:rcfe-dislike:

 

Greg

The difference is that with harness drivers don't need to be declared until a couple of days out from racing - Counter Punch is right ..... this happens every week with clubs attaching last start drivers to the runners before driver nominations close.

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32 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said:

The difference is that with harness drivers don't need to be declared until a couple of days out from racing - Counter Punch is right ..... this happens every week with clubs attaching last start drivers to the runners before driver nominations close.

I appreciate what your saying re  Driver declaration and its timing but does it  make it right the way  its currently done.

As a punter I find it frustrating and totally avoidable. 

 

Greg

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