tim vince 985 Report post Posted September 23, 2019 The suits asleep at the wheel again.10 juniors in north 14 noms this week. Is there anyone responsible . Most big businesses have a recruitment policy. Hunter the punter 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter the punter 23 Report post Posted September 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, tim vince said: The suits asleep at the wheel again.10 juniors in north 14 noms this week. Is there anyone responsible . Most big businesses have a recruitment policy. Not these dick heads Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted September 23, 2019 I've emailed ceo asking what he is doing to address this.buck stops at the top.is that fair? Hunter the punter and john legend 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted September 23, 2019 Noticed that when the noms came out - did they just shift horses to other races (which of course not penalty free)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted September 23, 2019 Didn't have a choice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted September 23, 2019 So taking it one step further, as there are not enough juniors to service a full field clubs in the north should therefore not programme these races at all. It's a hell of a situation and clubs/HRNZ should have held urgent discussions with Industry participants to find either a solution or at least a temporary fix - e.g. allow drivers under 50 wins but not juniors to fill the remaining vacancies in these races, or bring juniors north (the RIU seen to do it so obviously cost no problem?) But I suppose the real answer will be "Tough bikkies to the owners" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted September 23, 2019 Or combine amateurs and juniors.no reply from the top it wasn't expecting one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted September 23, 2019 It would be totally unfair on Juniors to make them compete against amateurs, the obvious solution wouls have been for the club to call for South Island Juniors to make themselves available and for the club to pay their fares Patiti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted September 24, 2019 Why .similar experience Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapphirecastleton 11 Report post Posted September 24, 2019 There are 12 juniors in the North Island. Myself, Luke Whittaker, Fergus Schumacher, Dylan Ferguson, Nate Delany, Craig Smith, Taitlyn Hanara, Kim Blakemore, Kaleb Bublitz, Andrew Drake, Scott Iremonger & Sheridan Rapley (who is yet to have a drive). I believe both Nate & Sheridan don't have drives in the race this week after 4 of the horses were withdrawn from nominations. This would be the first time in over a year (or more) that any junior race received more nominations than there were drivers, at least this way this gives the kids starting out their careers the opportunity to have a drive, rather than them missing out & if a trainer really wants they can fly up someone from down south, Johnny Morrison had a drive a few weeks ago and i'm sure others are open to travel. Agree that more needs to be done to get kids involved, but in an industry with limited opportunities, long hours & average earning opportunities, it is always going to be a struggle. Also there has been numerous talk that the horsemen's association was trying to pass a rule that if the junior race was to not get off the ground that horses nominated for the race would still get a penalty free win if they were driven by a junior in a 'normal' race- I believe it was passed but couldn't confirm for sure. So the same thing should of really happened with the horses that were forced to change fields they still should of got in to those fields with a junior on under penalty free conditions. Maybe something that should be discussed with clubs more thoroughly? ivanthegreat, rangi, Stables and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted September 25, 2019 My bad but still not enough.looking to the future and most trainers want some experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted September 25, 2019 ms Castleton - I'm afraid under today's priorities if it don't spell dollars to the clubs then they don't want to know about it. It not too long ago when the catchphrase was "Don't worry the owners will pay for it" however that cash cow has been virtually milked dry so all they have left to offer the Industry is closed eyes and blocked ears. Hermione 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,711 Report post Posted September 25, 2019 12 at the moment Tim, but you and I have been around long enough to know that injuries, holidays, stipes/jca, moves to Aussie etc. can make the situation very shaky. Perhaps some owners and trainers shun allowing juniors to drive their horses but how the hell can they get the experience necessary for them to rise to the top or even just be competent. Without mentioning names we can all see the progress made by some of the young drivers simply by regular opportunities and also the handling of nice stock either in training or racing. Sad to see that many of our administrators loose sight of this. JJ Flash and Hermione 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted September 25, 2019 It is up to employers to start them off.i offered a drive to a non winner but he already had one.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...