fitzy 143 Report post Posted November 6, 2019 Good 4 at Flemington for Oaks today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted November 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, poundforpound said: I’m here Trump....it’s not that bad...played golf yesterday and the track was as dry as a chip Are you at Flemington area? Bad weather is out in bass strait at the mo but with temps for tomorrow and Sat predicted at 12/6, you can’t bet that FLEMINGTON will cop a fair bit of rain by Sat. Won’t hurt MB’s chance anyway but will stop plenty of others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted November 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, poundforpound said: There was a bi of surface water about Tuesday but the weather has been ok since. I’m at Crown , off to the Oaks today Good luck if you have a punt. Bar an upset, the Oaks looks pretty cosy and I think Moonlight Maid will beat Miami Bound Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted November 7, 2019 22 hours ago, Trump said: That’s about his right quote 17’s. Looks like Houlahans cut loose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 518 Report post Posted November 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Gruff said: Looks like Houlahans cut loose Amazing what $10 EW will do. That is a bloody odd field to sort out to be honest. Harlem's got Flemington 10f history unless I'm mistaken. Out of form but could pop up. Humidor perhaps. Or the Belle - meets most of these 2kg better off. No overseas superstars here to steal the chocolates either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckenzie 600 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 Magic Wand an interesting runner. Top class but a big ask to win a Mackinnon four days after running 10th in the Cup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flockofewes2 216 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 This is a way better field than she ran against last start. A win here would make her top 5 in Aus/NZ rankings imo. Wet track should suit.Won't suit Harlem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, flockofewes2 said: This is a way better field than she ran against last start. A win here would make her top 5 in Aus/NZ rankings imo. Wet track should suit.Won't suit Harlem. Way too skinny at 330 odd . Humidor been smashed in from 17s . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,759 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Red Rum said: Way too skinny at 330 odd . Humidor been smashed in from 17s . Looks hard to beat. Hartnell retires after the race. Godolphin will look after him from then on....and so they should. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flockofewes2 216 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 I though Kluger was worth a punt at odds...good behind Winx...won't mind track. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flockofewes2 216 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, poundforpound said: Had wind op a few days ago, lasered his entrapped epiglottis, should help him that puts me right off...back to KWD , or Cape . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flockofewes2 216 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Why ? That’s very minor and quite manageable and quite clearly not ..notifiable! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 From what we have seen of Hartnell this prep you would be mad not to include, im almost suggesting a win Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flockofewes2 216 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Gruff said: From what we have seen of Hartnell this prep you would be mad not to include, im almost suggesting a win would be a big..surprise..although he may have had an op yesterday to attach an..extra leg..best ask the..barman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,759 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, flockofewes2 said: I though Kluger was worth a punt at odds...good behind Winx...won't mind track. Hasn't won for 3 and a half years.....that put you off....??! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, flockofewes2 said: would be a big..surprise..although he may have had an op yesterday to attach an..extra leg..best ask the..barman. Big surprise? Hartnell was unlucky in the Caulfield along with a few others including Mr Quickie. Get on like Houlahan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 Relax everyone. The f3 over the line will be Melody Belle, Kings Will Dream and Hartnell. Forget the rest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 518 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 Four live chances for mine....humidor... Hartnell...fifty stars...MB. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 Humidor Hartnell Magic Wand Arista Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 Out of the two biggest WFA contests over middle distance over spring only two colts racing , Cape Good Hope just off plane and Castelvecchio, nothing from last year's classic generation with stallion potential about for either race being tested in two best races of that class in Melbourne , that seems a problem unless just relying on imported and shuttle stallions . A racing pundit said on radio Vow and Declare a new dawn for OZ and NZ breeding middle distance and stayers , imho it's a false dawn when whole generation is gelded or disappears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Red Rum said: Out of the two biggest WFA contests over middle distance over spring only two colts racing , Cape Good Hope just off plane and Castelvecchio, nothing from last year's classic generation with stallion potential about for either race being tested in two best races of that class in Melbourne , that seems a problem unless just relying on imported and shuttle stallions . A racing pundit said on radio Vow and Declare a new dawn for OZ and NZ breeding middle distance and stayers , imho it's a false dawn when whole generation is gelded or disappears. Why do you say that? The NZ and Australian Breeding Industries were founded on Imported Stallions from UK and Europe. So what’s different today? There are a number of successful Homebred stallions from the imported stock. Savabeel has led the way in NZ, Lohnro, ZABEEL, Snitzel, Commands, Redoubtes Choice, etc. where do I stop? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,759 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 Declaration of War the new kid on the block, MC and Derby winners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Trump said: Why do you say that? The NZ and Australian Breeding Industries were founded on Imported Stallions from UK and Europe. So what’s different today? There are a number of successful Homebred stallions from the imported stock. Savabeel has led the way in NZ, Lohnro, ZABEEL, Snitzel, Commands, Redoubtes Choice, etc. where do I stop? You make a good point but shouldn't it go year on year reproducing , classic generation producing classic generation . It just struck me where all the middle distance 4 year old colts had gone from last year . The Autumn Sun clearly would have been up to these races to his eyeballs but got too valuable .Two OZ trained entires over course of both races one import one 3 year old just seems light in numbers . Maybe it's always been so . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Declaration of War the new kid on the block, MC and Derby winners. Is he shuttling to Japan or has he been sold on for good . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted November 8, 2019 I think that sometimes, buyers of stock from good Stallions that produce great Middle Distance staying types, good Stallions like Reliable Man, Savabeel, etc, bring them on too early. Imho they are better off left off the racetrack until they are late 3yo. Let them mature a bit more - like the UK/Europeans do. We tend to follow the “Fast Food” Kings, the Americans. Red Rum 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...