We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted September 9, 2019 Big break with tradition changing it to WFA. It will be interesting to see if it can still attract a capacity field and remain a big betting race. There might be scope for another club to develop a decent 1,200m handicap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,700 Report post Posted September 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: Big break with tradition changing it to WFA. It will be interesting to see if it can still attract a capacity field and remain a big betting race. There might be scope for another club to develop a decent 1,200m handicap. History has no place in NZ Racing. THE TORCH and We're Doomed 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Incoming from very high up the food chain, impeccable source so there you go Hi Leo. WRC forced into running Telegraph at WFA to retain Group 1 status. Only way to get the rating you need. Same thing happened to the White Robe Lodge at Wingatui. I suppose the next thing will be a WFA Auckland Cup. Baz (NZ) and THE TORCH 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted September 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, poundforpound said: You can always rely on the Wellington RC to get it wrong, every single thing they do is usually a complete fuck up.....along with the Trainers Association they’re the bastard children of NZTR ... To understand their ( lack of ) thinking you need to either be really stupid, or think like a five year old..and on that basis the only possible stupid explanation for this change to WFA is that they’re trying to attract some second rate old cheats out of Australia, cheats looking for an easy G1 to add to their CV, something like Osborne Bulls It won’t work, it’ll be back to a handicap in a couple of years I imagined it was a reaction to the fact the South Island keeps winning it, and filling 3 of the first 4 places this year. I would have thought the fact that a couple of handy types in Bostonian and Melody Belle finished down the track this year should have helped its status. Baz (NZ), THE TORCH and Pam Robson 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 451 Report post Posted September 10, 2019 This club pissed about with the Wellington Cup distance. Like to know who or whom has had a go at the telegraph. What we could see if you go for stupid make it WFA. 3yo 100 kgs, 4yo 120kg 5yo 140 kg and so on. Baz (NZ) and THE TORCH 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,535 Report post Posted September 10, 2019 Another historic race fcuked. Lets make the CJC NZ Cup an 1800 metre race and make my day So easy to see why people are jumping overboard A few questions could be phrased around my comments THE TORCH and Baz (NZ) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,341 Report post Posted September 10, 2019 The Telegraph used to be a handicap. In 2017 it was changed to set weights and penalties. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kloppite 314 Report post Posted September 10, 2019 6 hours ago, rdytdy said: In 2017 it was changed to set weights and penalties. So what was it when Sacred Star won in 2015 and Adventador won in 2016? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,341 Report post Posted September 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kloppite said: So what was it when Sacred Star won in 2015 and Adventador won in 2016? Finger mistype 2015 The point being it is not currently a handicap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phar Lap Fan 103 Report post Posted September 13, 2019 Tradition for its own sake is rather pointless. There has been no Gr. 1, w.f.a. race over 1,200 metres in N.Z. for ever? Many years ago, 2 y.o. and 3 y.o. horses would compete in w.f.a. races, such as the N.I. Challenge Stakes. Also consider that 'the home of stayers' doesn't have a race over 2,400 metres, at w.f.a., similar to Le Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe, as in other countries. Is w.f.a. racing fair or does our obsession with handicap races promote mediocrity? Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted September 13, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 11:05 AM, crustyngrizzly said: History has no place in NZ Racing. We shall see, but at face value hold the phone Grizzles rdytdy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...