Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 Not sure why the jockey thought the need to crack Macpac in the last today four big cracks in about 6 strides on the bend when tailed off . Not much effort in the push along department but ton of effort in the crack the whip hard stakes giving horse no chance to respond .Maybe it's a good job some of these jocks are riding for peanuts I dread to think what the attitude would be for big bucks . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 575 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 Let me name and shame these individuals: Jockey: Tanya Jonker Stewards: J Mclaughlin (chair), J Oatham and M Davidson. Insider, Red Rum and hedley 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 Watching the one race Rummy I would concur, watch a few of their previous runs together it all makes sense. She probably waited a little long with those cracks, the horse switched on and arguably would of been in the money otherwise . If Terry the Tenderiser was on that’s another matter Pam Robson and Red Rum 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gruff said: Watching the one race Rummy I would concur, watch a few of their previous runs together it all makes sense. She probably waited a little long with those cracks, the horse switched on and arguably would of been in the money otherwise . If Terry the Tenderiser was on that’s another matter Horse plodded on, was very poor race . I see where you coming from Gruff the horse needed a rev up however she sat at rear doing FA , no effort in the drive then went bang bang bang bang on the bend without giving it any chance to respond , its not Winx its never making that ground up in straight. Maybe bang drive it out gets same response, or bang drive it out a bit bang drive it out a bit . Looked very lazy to me . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 Agree, but if you watch the race a few back she sat there like a sack of spuds and the horse went from last to first in 200m , went to early but under the horses own steam ? Looks a tricky horse but one who will win one soon? JMHO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,790 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 ...and no I’ve never met Tania..ya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Hogg 320 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 Tania often reads races badly ,seems to be doing it on her own.She is also a very competent jockey and often rides very well. I think she should be seeking more guidance and training ,specially in using the whip and understanding what 's required of her.She needs a mentor but there seems to be in the south throw these jockeys on and see how you go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,547 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 She's a special case and doesn't listen. Boss Hogg and Rusty 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,547 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Pam Robson said: She's a special case and doesn't listen. That didn't come across very well....Tanya has ridden a winner for me, and I have always wished her well...but she has had difficulty settling in to the regime of a 'training' stable environment. Her last place of employment gave her every opportunity, put her on the stable's best, but she struggled with the discipline required and left. This 'situation' that was engineered to allow her to remain in the industry [ otherwise, she was going to be lost, a stipe told me ] has certainly worked well for her but she is lacking quality tuition and is strong-minded enough to be a challenge in that respect. We're Doomed and elbow 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnacks 386 Report post Posted July 12, 2019 Tanya definitely has the worst action of any jockey in New Zealand. However, with some guidance and practice, I'm sure she can modify how she uses the whip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted July 13, 2019 Fascinating insight. I'm sure most of us have no real idea how such things work. She has certainly improved out of sight in her riding style, used to look awful. She gets her share of winners so must be learning something. She is very good on front runners so must be a reasonable judge of pace. Of course some of her better wins have come on horses coming from the tail of the field. Hopefully she opens herself up to good advice and improves her style and success rate even more. Shad 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted July 13, 2019 She certainly looked good on her Trentham winner. Looked the winner a long way out. No excess whip use there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,864 Report post Posted July 13, 2019 There is always experts...some never ridden in a are themselves ..many like to criticise rather than offer advice...everyone needs to learn she seems to be doing that so good on her....hope she keeps silencing the knockers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,554 Report post Posted July 13, 2019 I'm sure the jockey mentor will take her under their wing, or are they just there for a day's outing..I thought she was very average to say the least early on, but must say how I think she is one of the most improved riders in the south, takes a good photo to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted July 13, 2019 Me 2.strong minded ain't a bad thing is IT? Shad 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,554 Report post Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, scooby3051 said: There is always experts...some never ridden in a are themselves ..many like to criticise rather than offer advice...everyone needs to learn she seems to be doing that so good on her....hope she keeps silencing the knockers. Only been in the saddle a few times, albeit a very long time ago, did get asked an odd question once went like this, if your uncle Jack helped you get on a horse, would you help your uncle Jack off a horse.Sounded abit dodgy to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,864 Report post Posted July 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shad said: Only been in the saddle a few times, albeit a very long time ago, did get asked an odd question once went like this, if your uncle Jack helped you get on a horse, would you help your uncle Jack off a horse.Sounded abit dodgy to me. People just need to give the girl a break she is learning...everyone needs to do that...right?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,554 Report post Posted July 13, 2019 I agree, I actually like her as a rider, and have been impressed with her improvement, and if she can ride a winner for you, she's the best around, and as I said before she takes a great photo with a winner, with that beaming smile, good on her, I hope she keeps kicking them home. elbow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,824 Report post Posted July 13, 2019 She's not alone. You could lose your hair very quickly watching younger South Island apprentices. Very few of them can use the whip properly and inevitably get beaten in close finishes with stronger riders. A lottery for any punter. Pam Robson 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbo 734 Report post Posted July 27, 2019 Tanya rode four winners yesterday. Nice work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...