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Breeding trotters

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Back page of the 2019- 2020 Stdbred Stallion Register makes interesting reading. 36 pacing stallions of which 14 are homebreds compared with 30 trotting stallions of which only 3 NZ bred. Big change from when we were looking for a top stallion for our Chiola Hanover mare 30 years ago. With the good stakes and opportunities at Auckland, it has never been a better time to breed and race a quality trotter up North.  The other plus for us who race our own stock is that it doesn't matter nearly so much with trotters whether we get a filly or colt, especially in age group racing. What puzzles me is the further south you go, the fewer trotters there seem to be. Any explanations?

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Also worth noting  trotting bloodlines are more diverse, partly due to European influence & there is no trotting sire as dominant as BD in the pacing ranks.  

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2 hours ago, lamour said:

Also worth noting  trotting bloodlines are more diverse, partly due to European influence & there is no trotting sire as dominant as BD in the pacing ranks.  

Think trotting dominance at the Sales in recent times have been the "Love You's" and lesser extent " Majestic Son's" .Not much else has had a look in but hoping newbies in "Father Patrick"  will spread the joy for breeders.

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12 hours ago, 2Piper said:

Think trotting dominance at the Sales in recent times have been the "Love You's" and lesser extent " Majestic Son's" .Not much else has had a look in but hoping newbies in "Father Patrick"  will spread the joy for breeders.

Love you has produced some great horses but Monbet, Enghien & Great Things Happen all like shooting stars.  Make a brilliant impression but disappear off the scene too early.  Not sure if it’s just coincidence or they tend to be unsound.  No doubt people more knowledgeable than me will have opinions on that. 

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As one who breeders pacers the stallion choice is terrible . Look at once strong studs - 

Wai Eyre

Nevelr

Both offer a couple of homebreds and trotting .

Woodland offering big discounts on new sire and Alabar has a volume with only Art Major firing .

When is someone going to offer a top line pacing sire besides BD and AM not at Alabar or Woodlands .

Very thin on proven sires so for small time breeder game buggered as Woodland and Alabar can sell 1.5x service fee and we need 3x service fee as the cost for service , with 20% off,  doesn’t work.

The foal numbers will fall fall fall .

NZSBB and SNZBS is shit - only concern is big studs and one corporate breeder .

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On 7/4/2019 at 11:36 PM, 2Piper said:

Think trotting dominance at the Sales in recent times have been the "Love You's" and lesser extent " Majestic Son's" .Not much else has had a look in but hoping newbies in "Father Patrick"  will spread the joy for breeders.

4 trials at Meadowlands yesterday for 2 yr old trotters, all won by Father Patrick’s.  Early signs looking very exciting for him.  Whether he performs as well here with frozen seaman only time will tell.

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My thoughts on breeding anything, I have well bred mare who has had two foals, both pacing bred, the second foal was by Hes Watching  and we thought about the sales for her, we did not go that way because if they are not a BD or an AM, bugger all return, At least in Aussie they will look further than that, not here, Same applies to breeding a trotter. The small gene pool sells. With Inca in full noise mode, the future does not look that bright in this sport. Lesser stakes in the south and its harder to win down here. Furthermore, we watch maiden trots when only six out of 12 make a clean start and the first three are in that group, not a good look for your dollar EW punter who does his cash in 200 metres from the start. This sport needs a complete rethink going into the future or there is no future and the axe is hovering with gravity on its side.

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Might be a Pollyanna but what else are trotting breeders. Although not happy with with everything, there are positives. Least one can get a start (a problem back in the 80s), we do have a good choice of trotting stallions, if you breed anything half good on the track they are easy to sell when ratings get too tough, and for those in the northern NI, we've the opportunity to race for good stakes. Would like more mobiles for maiden trotters (we'd see plenty of galloping maiden pacers too if they had to do standing starts from day 1, especially with experienced horse off behind them) but clubs have to card fields to suit the pool of horses available.

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