Pegasus 9 511 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 Huge Royal Ascot booking for James McDonald in Friday's G1 Coronation Stakes with the ride on second favourite Jubiloso. Immaculately-bred, by Shamardal out of Frankel's half-sister Joyeuse, and she looks to have immense talent too #horseracing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Pegasus 9 said: Huge Royal Ascot booking for James McDonald in Friday's G1 Coronation Stakes with the ride on second favourite Jubiloso. Immaculately-bred, by Shamardal out of Frankel's half-sister Joyeuse, and she looks to have immense talent too #horseracing She did look good but that 2nd win looks in a poor race by Newbury standards , third home was 14 lengths behind winner next time out at Kempton in average race , second looks OK won next up and ran ok in decent handicap after but rest will have to go low grade to get head in front imho. She really dealt to them though .J Macc done the biz for owner last year at RA. Pegasus 9 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus 9 511 Report post Posted June 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, Red Rum said: She did look good but that 2nd win looks in a poor race by Newbury standards , third home was 14 lengths behind winner next time out at Kempton in average race , second looks OK won next up and ran ok in decent handicap after but rest will have to go low grade to get head in front imho. She really dealt to them though .J Macc done the biz for owner last year at RA. I hope he rides a winner there this year but he will have to be at his best I think. Great racing though and will be watching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,403 Report post Posted June 18, 2019 I note that the world's most famous Jumpers' Flat, also known as the Ascot Stakes, run over 4000 metres, was won by a son of Frankel. I was hoping Frankel's stock would be better than that. He was such a wonderful racehorse. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzy 143 Report post Posted June 18, 2019 I think Sir T and Zabeel both sired Gt Northern winners. Do you judge their stud careers on that fact alone .............. Black Kirrama, Pegasus 9 and Pam Robson 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,084 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 It's inevitable some horses are going to go over hurdles/ steeples later in their careers regardless of how they are bred. I personally don't put a lot of store in breeding when assessing their ability on certain track conditions either. A number of good summer sprinters/gallopers have turned out good jumpers on wet tracks. The only rule is there are no rules. Pam Robson, Pegasus 9 and Baz (NZ) 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewandjo 129 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 Frankel currently has 17.3 stakes winners to runners.. easily the best of all living stallions worldwide standing in major racing juridictions Black Kirrama and Pegasus 9 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Tauhei Notts said: I note that the world's most famous Jumpers' Flat, also known as the Ascot Stakes, run over 4000 metres, was won by a son of Frankel. I was hoping Frankel's stock would be better than that. He was such a wonderful racehorse. I was impressed with how winner powered home looks a beautiful horse , and shows imho Frankel to be even more versatile in the breeding game . He's had a few hurdle winners so far . Anyway how do you rate these stallions , Sadlers Wells has sired Pridwell multiple wins in top staying hurdles , Synchronised Cheltenham Gold Cup winner , Istabraq the best hurdler there's ever been a simply brilliant racehorse .I backed horse once when at Cottenham PTP over 3 miles called Fire and Ice by Sadlers Wells , it stayed ok but very slowly . Galileo has sired Supasundae top line staying hurdler won Aintree stayers this year, Celestial Halo a top staying hurdler for years and Annie Power has produced a foal by Galileo that you have to think was produced for the winter game . Danehill sired Specular winner in Oz and went ok over sticks in UK for Jonjo O'NEIL plus over low grade hurdlers . Njinsky sired Play the Act multiple winning chaser plus others Nureyev sired Prokoliev multiple winning hurdler plus others And so on. fitzy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Bidlake 759 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 Most of the good stallions will throw jumpers as well because they throw 'athletes' and so will succeed at whatever disapline you ask of them. We're Doomed, interested party, swampfox and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Kirrama 1,478 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 I set the alarm. First Royal Ascot live footage I've seen since SIR GK SANDERS bought a top hat and took Seachange over. I intended to watch mighty Pitty's Enzos Lad and eat a crumpet and cup of tea and go to bed. Fantastic coverage. Bloody amazing Prince of Wales G1 at 2:40 am tomorrow Thursday is a must see. The comingled pools with HK and England had massive pools on the first night. WHY is this NOT THE norm ? Sign of the Future: NO tote odds just Fixed Odds betting for the six races tonight. Is this because The Platform has lost so many clients there is no interest in betting with the NZ TAB ? be it at Royal Ascot , Te Teko, Waipa or Eagle Farm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,719 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, Black Kirrama said: I set the alarm. First Royal Ascot live footage I've seen since SIR GK SANDERS bought a top hat and took Seachange over. I intended to watch mighty Pitty's Enzos Lad and eat a crumpet and cup of tea and go to bed. Fantastic coverage. Bloody amazing Prince of Wales G1 at 2:40 am tomorrow Thursday is a must see. The comingled pools with HK and England had massive pools on the first night. WHY is this NOT THE norm ? Sign of the Future: NO tote odds just Fixed Odds betting for the six races tonight. Is this because The Platform has lost so many clients there is no interest in betting with the NZ TAB ? be it at Royal Ascot , Te Teko, Waipa or Eagle Farm. be it at Royal Ascot , Te Teko (abandoned), Waipa (abandoned) or Eagle Farm. Couldn't bet here even if we wanted to! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 Comin Through ex Waller in Hunt Club , looks like his ability has gone for the moment . He's with a very good young trainer though . I think Chilean might go OK at decent ew odds in that. The two Wesley Ward runners in first and two in last will blast out as his runners always do just a matter if they last , Anna Fast and Kimari looked stylish winning maidens but those wins on dirt , Karak in last should go on turf looking at breeding . Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,719 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 The NZTAB has started the first race at Ascot very early! Black Kirrama and Tauhei Notts 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Kirrama 1,478 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 RED RUM said: " Karak in last ( Race 6 The Windsor Castle Stakes 1000m + metres) should go on turf looking at breeding ." I always respect your views Red Rum: I will watch her. I Don't like Karak's dam's name ."Down The Well". Fantastic Ascot racing.. but racing for about 55% of what we race for in Group Ones in Aussie. TAB has no Jockeys Market that I can see: for tonight. James MK vs Dettori vs Doyle etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 Was watching the leadup to the next race at Scotsville South Africa. OK it was only a maiden but seems the Trackside manager must have rung the night time TV operator at Trackside and got him to switch to Ascot where the NZ rep was about to run. Most annoying once Scotsville was being shown the coverage should have stayed there. Very disappointing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoopa 280 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 I'm going for Western Australia in the Queens Vase,this race looks set up for him!The rest of the fields look open for a dart at the racing page!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoopa 280 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 James Doyle has a handy book of rides today and also Robin of Navan has conditions on his side for e/w backers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,403 Report post Posted June 19, 2019 12 hours ago, slam dunk said: Was watching the leadup to the next race at Scotsville South Africa. OK it was only a maiden but seems the Trackside manager must have rung the night time TV operator at Trackside and got him to switch to Ascot where the NZ rep was about to run. Most annoying once Scotsville was being shown the coverage should have stayed there. Very disappointing. You preferred to watch the go-rounds at Pietermaritzburg, rather than the King's Stand Stakes? If I told you that I preferred to watch a dishlicker at Invercargill rather than a group one at Randwick you would question my intelligence. mckenzie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 was a great evening's entertainment - so well done to TAB for coverage and for taking fixed odds bets. Had a crack at a few - 16/1 shot nosed out, and bet of the day not good enough and ran second as well. But I'll be back in tonight ! tasman man 11 and Black Kirrama 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, chelseacol said: was a great evening's entertainment - so well done to TAB for coverage and for taking fixed odds bets. Had a crack at a few - 16/1 shot nosed out, and bet of the day not good enough and ran second as well. But I'll be back in tonight ! Never give up Col ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,403 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 I would like to read any comments on Circus Maximus. that horse looked well beaten at the 2 furlong mark but dug really deep. He looks like a real tough customer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 well according to the TAB there is only one horse worth backing at Ascot. It's called Error - Please Try Again Tauhei Notts and Pegasus 9 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,876 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 It’s still down. Still can’t get on. Error - please try again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 12 hours ago, tasman man 11 said: Never give up Col ! I didn't mate. Turned over a reasonable amount overnight and ended up $7.40 down after a bit of a plunge on a $6 place shot who crept into third in the last Once again a great nights racing - not totally convinced on some of the jockeys over there, but as a few ex jocks on here would say I'm a typical punter. Having said that the strangest ride was James Doyle on Sinjaari in the King George. I didn't back it - but wtf ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted June 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, chelseacol said: I didn't mate. Turned over a reasonable amount overnight and ended up $7.40 down after a bit of a plunge on a $6 place shot who crept into third in the last Once again a great nights racing - not totally convinced on some of the jockeys over there, but as a few ex jocks on here would say I'm a typical punter. Having said that the strangest ride was James Doyle on Sinjaari in the King George. I didn't back it - but wtf ??? It's done a bit at Ascot when it gets softer , they go by the trees as they shelter ground a bit and I suppose drawn wide connections thought give it a lash . Trying to recall who did that in a big race and won , was either Carson or Dettori was a while back.It's a stiff track uphill a fair way out on round course so not easy to ride as go too early its a long way home. I thought the Gold Cup was cracking , Lloyd Williams horse was good , I thought it had no chance , Cross Counter ran well .Stradivarius could get 75 kgs in Melb Cup and still win , ground against it today . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...