Iraklis 2,231 Report post Posted August 1, 2019 Oh yes JL mate be great to see him can't see why he wont start up where he finished off, roll on The Cup yussssss! Cheers Iraklis john legend 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john legend 743 Report post Posted September 3, 2019 watch him go from 50 mtrs behind at winton this sunday. he will be ready … some good oppn, eg airpark flyer, 40mtrs but cannot see him losing over 2700 mtrs . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john legend 743 Report post Posted September 3, 2019 small adjustment The race 2400 metres which will still be a great watch. thanks to those who mentioned my mistake. hope he goes to the Hannon and other lead up races and then stars in November. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,132 Report post Posted September 3, 2019 Lets all hope he holds together as the deep south need a new superstar Cup class horse. Greg john legend 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,855 Report post Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: Lets all hope he holds together as the deep south need a new superstar Cup class horse. Greg I love the Southland socialist ideology whereby the "superstar Cup class horse" races for the same stake as maidens with up to 40 starts for no wins. Interesting way to try and encourage the better horses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,132 Report post Posted September 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: I love the Southland socialist ideology whereby the "superstar Cup class horse" races for the same stake as maidens with up to 40 starts for no wins. Interesting way to try and encourage the better horses. Completely different issue to the rise of UMC as he treads a path to Cup. I agree re 11k.maidens but they sure attract nice Canterbury horses and the punting dollar Greg Thejanitor and We're Doomed 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSprat 947 Report post Posted September 8, 2019 Amazing run first up today. Smashed the clock ... 2.55.9 for the 2400 - Only 1.5 sec outside the NZ record after having no favours in the run. 53.2 last half (25.6 from the 800 to the 400, followed by 27.6 last quarter) No workouts or trials to sharpen him so he can only get better! john legend 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john legend 743 Report post Posted September 8, 2019 yes Jack, no need for concern , another super performance even if a gap now in the picket fence. UMC did stand (dwelt) a little being on 50 metres alone poss added a further 10 metres equiv.to his handicap.the fact that the other drivers went hard esp last 800 to stop him winning was their good luck. Kirsty drove as she said she would and has been reprimanded for honesty with the press. Roll on the Hannon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSprat 947 Report post Posted September 8, 2019 Mate of mine who clocks everything in the deep south tells me his personal last 2400m (post to post) was 2.51.8 - well inside the NZ record - and he was held up through the middle half by horses struggling to keep up! Not a bad pipe opener! john legend 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 684 Report post Posted September 8, 2019 All Stars have employed a resident Clock Repairer Jack. JJ Flash and Thejanitor 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSprat 947 Report post Posted September 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Lee270744 said: All Stars have employed a resident Clock Repairer Jack. Living proof that not all the tools are in the garden shed! Rusty 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max powers 12 Report post Posted September 9, 2019 10 hours ago, JackSprat said: Mate of mine who clocks everything in the deep south tells me his personal last 2400m (post to post) was 2.51.8 - well inside the NZ record - and he was held up through the middle half by horses struggling to keep up! Not a bad pipe opener! That would be technically from a mobile if you go from the actual 2400m mark. But still beats The Dorchester time. He is a very very good horse that's for sure john legend 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john legend 743 Report post Posted September 12, 2019 has there ever been a horse capable of running seconds under nz record times first up ,not even a trial.? I timed him in 2. 51.5 from a mobile although not 100 % off video but only confirms his under 2.52 time by Jacks mate. .which only proves he is getting better . if that's even possible. I would think the blue army may be at least a little concerned.I remember the days when a horse going 3.05 in a qualifier was thought of as a potentially very good horse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 575 Report post Posted September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, john legend said: but only confirms his under 2.52 time by Jacks mate. .which only proves he is getting better . if that's even possible. He is definitely getting better, there is no denying that. And one would expect there's more improvement in him yet. It's a daunting prospect for his opposition that's for sure. The horse is to a large extent, still learning the racing game eg. how to take the passing lane, how to take a sit and come with one run, how to relax during a race, how to not get fired up if getting eyeballed by another runner, how to step off the mark cleanly, how to not jump over shadows on the track or get distracted by large crowds, or put off by strong wind etc the list goes on. All going well, it will add up to what will hopefully become the next big gun on the Grand Circuit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 575 Report post Posted September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, john legend said: has there ever been a horse capable of running seconds under nz record times first up ,not even a trial.? Think there may be a few occasions, but not many, if any. To steal Scribe's song; How many horses you know gunna run like this, not many, if any! Star Galleria did last season first up, but possibly had a trial? In any event, good effort to notch up a NZ record fresh up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,132 Report post Posted September 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Rusty said: Think there may be a few occasions, but not many, if any. To steal Scribe's song; How many horses you know gunna run like this, not many, if any! Star Galleria did last season first up, but possibly had a trial? In any event, good effort to notch up a NZ record fresh up. Be interesting to see if he backs up when he next lines up- tough first runs without trials can flatten even the best . I do hope that is not the case as this horse does possess the x factor which attracts the public. Greg john legend 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkc 181 Report post Posted September 13, 2019 23 hours ago, JJ Flash said: Be interesting to see if he backs up when he next lines up- tough first runs without trials can flatten even the best . I do hope that is not the case as this horse does possess the x factor which attracts the public. Greg The horse had 3 weeks off. Hardly a turn out more a freshen up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,132 Report post Posted September 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, dkc said: The horse had 3 weeks off. Hardly a turn out more a freshen up! Hope your correct but lets wait and see what happens in Hannon Greg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john legend 743 Report post Posted September 14, 2019 True race cafers,the big test is the Hannon. Fav is still obviously Spankem (2.40) with UMC (4.50) and even the giant Chase Auckland is at around 5.00. (all pre noms) Even putting an 8 start horse in the same company as the Purdon runners is testament to his standing. If he wins the Hannon he will have arrived in the bigtime and poss become Cup fav. in futures markets.Good luck to Mr Kilkelly and all others involved. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 575 Report post Posted September 19, 2019 Well done to the NZ TAB for getting some odds out early for the race. Too skinny for my liking, I won't touch anything, but good on them for trying. They are possibly starting to wake up. I'd have Thefixer, Spankem, Tiger Tara and possibly Chase Auckland as the horses ahead of UMC at this stage for the Cup. I wouldn't necessarily read too much into the winner of the Hannon, moreso the respective runs of each contender, and their performance within the race. Thejanitor and JJ Flash 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkc 181 Report post Posted September 20, 2019 Scratch from Hannon. Hope he's OK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 575 Report post Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, dkc said: Scratch from Hannon. Hope he's OK Stone bruise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,132 Report post Posted September 26, 2019 The dream is over. Out of Cup after vets find small tendon tear. Shame but 4-6 month spell has been confirmed Greg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted September 26, 2019 Shame, but it was well known that he had soundness problems, that's why he hadn't raced as a younger horse. Lets hope they can get him back JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john legend 743 Report post Posted September 27, 2019 Jeez what a disappointment to hear this . Absolute sadness for what may have been this November.total sympathy to Kirsty and owner. hope he returns in the future to reach heights we have seen he is capable of achieving. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...