CBT 82 Report post Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) On 4/15/2019 at 6:39 AM, scooby3051 said: No you are wrong again CBT..where did i call you a liar????...you stated a fact that was proven wrong...now by 3 posters in here...I am biased to people telling the truth...thats something it seems you wont apologise for...you got it wrong big deal but be man enough to admit that...no need to start to throw shit at me either...you were wrong have been proven wrong thats a fact !!!! Molloy has called me a liar several times including on this very thread Leigh. That is slander. Go and look up the definition of “libel”. You try to come across as balanced and fair but to the contrary you have conveniently chosen to ignore this while at the same time scrutinise every word of my own. You have also omitted my full postings further emphasing my point that you have an agenda as nothing I have posted is not factual. Edited April 19, 2019 by scooby3051 Inflammatory content Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,938 Report post Posted April 14, 2019 I think that he was simply correcting your version of events...I am not ignoring anything least of all your version of the truth...now can we move on please i think the picture is clear now. talk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 I was offered a share in her too by Trevor (not sure if before or after Janet), but turned it down. Big regrets.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT 82 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, shaneMcAlister said: I was offered a share in her too by Trevor (not sure if before or after Janet), but turned it down. Big regrets.... Great Tui ad. Shane McAlister invented Fisher & Paykel too. Yeah right shaneMcAlister 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,868 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 Surely it is pretty straight forward to prove whether that Fisher woman purchased a yearling at a sale in 1997 for $10,000 and the very next lot was Sunline? Someone must have sales records from that time. It is hardly a "he says, she says" argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,560 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: Surely it is pretty straight forward to prove whether that Fisher woman purchased a yearling at a sale in 1997 for $10,000 and the very next lot was Sunline? Someone must have sales records from that time. It is hardly a "he says, she says" argument. Well from what's been said, Sunline never went through the sales ring, so that being the case the theory is moot. Insider and We're Doomed 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Idolmite said: Boom!!!!! Boom Boom. Knock out decision to Ted. Again Insider and swampfox 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT 82 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said: Boom Boom. Knock out decision to Ted. Again How so? Please clarify. A private conversation between Trevor McKee and Janet Fisher where he offered her a share in Sunline which she chose to make me privy to yesterday. I’m confused exactly where this knockout decision to Ted is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,560 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, CBT said: How so? Please clarify. A private conversation between Trevor McKee and Janet Fisher where he offered her a share in Sunline which she chose to make me privy to yesterday. I’m confused exactly where this knockout decision to Ted is? How can Sunline of been the next horse through the sales ring after Ms Fisher's purchase, if Sunline never went through the sales ring? Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT 82 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Idolmite said: How can Sunline of been the next horse through the sales ring after Ms Fisher's purchase, if Sunline never went through the sales ring? I’ll give you Janet’s mobile number Barry and you can clarify that for yourself or alternatively you can go and knock on her door and see her face to face in Riddell Rd. She lives a few doors down from Graham Hart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolutely Red 1 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 Leigh my understanding of the situation was that this ownership group raced Interval trained by TJ and when he was sold for a considerable sum they leased Sunline prior to subsequent purchase. shaneMcAlister 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdt 293 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 C'mon CBT it is quite clear that Sunline never went through the sales ring. A cursory check on my part found this out very quickly and I wouldn't doubt Ted's info for a moment. The breeders offered her to Trevor McKee. Perhaps your friend is confusing Sunline with another horse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT 82 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, kdt said: C'mon CBT it is quite clear that Sunline never went through the sales ring. A cursory check on my part found this out very quickly and I wouldn't doubt Ted's info for a moment. The breeders offered her to Trevor McKee. Perhaps your friend is confusing Sunline with another horse. With all due respect kdt I’m not sure how you could confuse the most successful NZ trained horse to come out of the country in the last 20 odd years with another one. Why would the daughter of Sir Woolf Fisher voluntarily offer me that information when the topic of Trevor McKee came up in conversation? She has been in the thoroughbred industry her entire life with some good success and her father stood Desert Sun at his stud. She has nothing to gain by lying about that. I’m just quoting word for word what she told me yesterday. Purely her words not mine. She was offered a share in Sunline by Trevor McKee and she turned it down. Unless anyone can prove that conversation didn’t occur between them I believe her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,868 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, CBT said: With all due respect kdt I’m not sure how you could confuse the most successful NZ trained horse to come out of the country in the last 20 odd years with another one. Why would the daughter of Sir Woolf Fisher voluntarily offer me that information when the topic of Trevor McKee came up in conversation? She has been in the thoroughbred industry her entire life with some good success and her father stood Desert Sun at his stud. She has nothing to gain by lying about that. I’m just quoting word for word what she told me yesterday. Purely her words not mine. She was offered a share in Sunline by Trevor McKee and she turned it down. Unless anyone can prove that conversation didn’t occur between them I believe her. Your original story was that sunline was the next horse through the sales ring after one that she purchased, she had a look at it and didn't like it. Is there now a variation on that story whereby they were merely chatting and he offered her a share in a horse that didn't actually go through the sales and that she hadn't seen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,938 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: Your original story was that sunline was the next horse through the sales ring after one that she purchased, she had a look at it and didn't like it. Is there now a variation on that story whereby they were merely chatting and he offered her a share in a horse that didn't actually go through the sales and that she hadn't seen? Well CBT has changed the story to try to cover up his factually incorrect opening statement, that was what was being pointed out to him but he seems to now be trying to say the lady was offered a share but nothing about the sales ring nonsense....so...CBT you are wrong..boom boom...sorry time to raise the white flag mate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT 82 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: Your original story was that sunline was the next horse through the sales ring after one that she purchased, she had a look at it and didn't like it. Is there now a variation on that story whereby they were merely chatting and he offered her a share in a horse that didn't actually go through the sales and that she hadn't seen? My story or Janet’s story? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT 82 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: Well CBT has changed the story to try to cover up his factually incorrect opening statement, that was what was being pointed out to him but he seems to now be trying to say the lady was offered a share but nothing about the sales ring nonsense....so...CBT you are wrong..boom boom...sorry time to raise the white flag mate. Since when is quoting Janet Fisher word for word verbatim “my story” Leigh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 CBT is re telling a story given to him by an elderly person from an incident many many years before that was likely a short conversation between two people , I think it's passage of time and sequence of events blurring some details .The lady isn't making up she was offered a share I am sure , it's just the exact circumstances and CBT is re telling what he was told. I don't think anyone at all is lying here , difference between incorrect recollections and straight out lying. Catalano and CBT 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT 82 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Red Rum said: CBT is re telling a story given to him by an elderly person from an incident many many years before that was likely a short conversation between two people , I think it's passage of time and sequence of events blurring some details .The lady isn't making up she was offered a share I am sure , it's just the exact circumstances and CBT is re telling what he was told. I don't think anyone at all is lying here , difference between incorrect recollections and straight out lying. Thank you Red Rum. This is the most relevant post in this entire thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT 82 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: Well CBT has changed the story to try to cover up his factually incorrect opening statement, that was what was being pointed out to him but he seems to now be trying to say the lady was offered a share but nothing about the sales ring nonsense....so...CBT you are wrong..boom boom...sorry time to raise the white flag mate. This is a true indication of just how blinkered you are Leigh. Good to see your true colours shining through as always. Look up the definition of “verbatim” and you might learn something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,868 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 I don't think this story can go much further really. Stopper appears to be impervious to any rational suggestion that his original comment was factually incorrect. The rest of us should probably just move on. Who would have thought this would become one of the threads of the year so far. scooby3051 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,843 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 Mountains and Molehills spring to mind..... We're Doomed and CBT 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,938 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, CBT said: This is a true indication of just how blinkered you are Leigh. Good to see your true colours shining through as always. Look up the definition of “verbatim” and you might learn something. CBT nobody is blinkered but you must admit your story or the telling of it has changed from your opening post...anyway you are wrong, yes she may have very well been offered a share in the great mare...just no the way you first suggested...nothing more to say...and i would advise mate to give it a rest please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,560 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, CBT said: I’ll give you Janet’s mobile number Barry and you can clarify that for yourself or alternatively you can go and knock on her door and see her face to face in Riddell Rd. She lives a few doors down from Graham Hart. Cool bananas. I work for Graham Hart. We're Doomed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT 82 Report post Posted April 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Idolmite said: Cool bananas. I work for Graham Hart. Good for you. What exactly is your role Barry? I went to school with Duncan (John Hawkesby’s son) who is now married to Graham Hart’s daughter Gretchen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...