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The Autumn Sun officially retired......

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5 minutes ago, Newmarket RC said:

Very wise move given the recent death of Redoutes Choice. Bad timing for Chris Waller losing 2 superstars in one week to the retirement paddock

 

 

Exactly. It was a fait accompli once Redoutes passed away. 

Would’ve loved to see him in a Cox Plate but not to be.

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5 hours ago, Newmarket RC said:

Very wise move given the recent death of Redoutes Choice. Bad timing for Chris Waller losing 2 superstars in one week to the retirement paddock

 

 

Big hole in stable , Nature Strip might be his best now in  company with VE.

Agree with you way too much money at risk racing on with TAS , he's got shuttle potential up north with his breeding too.

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It was inevitable after the loss of Redoute's Choice. They couldn't risk him getting beaten by some second rater.

Winx goes this weekend and it looks like another two Quinton mares Daysee Doom and Dixie Blossoms will follow.

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13 hours ago, Trump said:

Messara recently stated he had 40 Mares waiting for him! And that’s Arrowfields own Mares. At $77k he will probably serve 180+ @ $77k, that’s min $14m in his first year! 

Dont forget the immediate depreciation aspect.

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18 hours ago, Memphis2 said:

Waste of a good race horse.

Don't entirely disagree and I fully understand the $$$$ side of things as written by Trump but yes, top horse no doubt in age group races but I'd like to see these types of horse carry on for longer too. Some stallions will top up as they get older and may not perform the same which then could become a negative but they're heading to stud as three year olds when they have only had half a dozen races and still barely finished growing. Compare them to some of the top mares, Winx, Makybe Diva, Horlicks, Sunline who do a sterling job to six or seven year olds. Then again some top performing mares have dismal production records don't they? Obviously all dollar orientated.

 

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3 hours ago, mckenzie said:

 

Would have to be more than 20 mill to keep a horse like TAS running another two years at 77k a pop.Say he takes it nice and easy no shuttling 100 outside mares per year next two years thats 15 mill there and he won't be taking it that easy.Not many Aussie horses have their  balls left at 5 if they are still racing .

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Speaking of Arrowfield how about these numbers for Snitzel

" Snitzel is the most expensive stallion on the Arrowfield roster but stays at $220,000 after serving 172 mares at that price last season." If your talking money  thats equal to just under 38 million if they were all payers which obviously they were not as stud  would not be paying any cash.

Dundeel goes up from 27.5K to 66K following Grp 1 victories by his progeny in 3 different countries.

Easy to see why these Studs pay big money for anything promising despite the risk of failure at Stud

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1 hour ago, Fartoomuch said:

Speaking of Arrowfield how about these numbers for Snitzel

" Snitzel is the most expensive stallion on the Arrowfield roster but stays at $220,000 after serving 172 mares at that price last season." If your talking money  thats equal to just under 38 million if they were all payers which obviously they were not as stud  would not be paying any cash.

Dundeel goes up from 27.5K to 66K following Grp 1 victories by his progeny in 3 different countries.

Easy to see why these Studs pay big money for anything promising despite the risk of failure at Stud

Bit surprising that TAS is priced higher than Dundeel given he has already been successful with a number of Group One winners.

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25 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said:

Probably a case of striking whilst the irons hot. Marketing 101 

Bit like who's in fashion it seems at times. He's certainly in fashion big style . Horse called Sandmason went ok for Cecil , got sent to McEvoy in Australia and at one stage ran last in Melbourne Cup. Ended up here and only winner he got i think was horse trained over Coast.  Someone brought him and got shipped to Ireland . Served a few seasons and got forgotten about . I think figures were  he served something like  2 mares in 3 years . The first foals from Ireland matured and two real decent jumpers emerge , people were checking if he was still alive and  owner drags   him out paddock as mares queueing up and money starts rolling in . The old bugger was something like third most active stallion in Ireland last year.

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