Black Kirrama

Chris Waller Larry Cassidy and Endless Drama

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ENDLESS DRAMA   epitomises the state of our wonderful Thoroughbred racing don't you think ?

Think about todays Informant Front Page

The Waikato RC decides they know better and withdraw from Green Fields discussions.What is that about ? 

I quote from The Informant ,Bruce Sherwin "The Cambridge JC is surprised by the Waikato RC actions at such an early stage in the process -Before even commencing the  Business Case ".

Self interest from The Waikato Racing Club.Maybe.

A similar scenario happened with the CJC and the decision to buy their own land when they came to loggerheads with The WRC.

In 1960  the CJC committee and members bought 50 Acres in Hannon Road.Probably at favourable terms from Richie Hannon.

The intension was probably to conduct race meetings. The WRC  increased their race day rentals. Fact.

Bob Morris and other committee members  at that time bought an additional 100 acres in  about 1976 ? Paid about half a million or less.

Later ( during my time ) bought Ian Alton's five acres with a horse pool.The CJC  Management's  vision at that time was Trials and Training barns. Not Race meetings.

More money could be gleaned from Trials and Training fees than owning a Race Course. Policy ...Put the dollars earned back into Stakes.

Thirty years later ? Make up your own mind.

More useless Endless Drama  that the unilateral thinking George Vercoe the WRC founder 

would be absolutely appalled.

So... Endless Drama   Has he ever raced left handed ? He has been placed second in 10 starts at Group One Level. Rating 105

Endless Drama won the  2018 Apollo Stakes ( 52 weeks ago) when Uncle Hugh was suspended and the Winx team decided not to go there.
He could well be the first Stallion/ Entire to salute  The Judge in R7 . The Haunui WFA.

 

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9 hours ago, Black Kirrama said:

So... Endless Drama   Has he ever raced left handed ? He has been placed second in 10 starts at Group One Level. Rating 105

Endless Drama won the  2018 Apollo Stakes ( 52 weeks ago) when Uncle Hugh was suspended and the Winx team decided not to go there.
He could well be the first Stallion/ Entire to salute  The Judge in R7 . The Haunui WFA.

 

Yes he has raced left handed Rev. Ran last in the Mackinnon at Flemington.

He won't be the first stallion/entire to win the race. (I am assuming you are excluding the colts that have won the race) Westminster won the race as an entire in 1990. 

Very interesting re the Greenfields Project now.  

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10 hours ago, Black Kirrama said:

ENDLESS DRAMA   epitomises the state of our wonderful Thoroughbred racing don't you think ?

Think about todays Informant Front Page

The Waikato RC decides they know better and withdraw from Green Fields discussions.What is that about ? 

I quote from The Informant ,Bruce Sherwin "The Cambridge JC is surprised by the Waikato RC actions at such an early stage in the process -Before even commencing the  Business Case ".

Self interest from The Waikato Racing Club.Maybe.

A similar scenario happened with the CJC and the decision to buy their own land when they came to loggerheads with The WRC.

In 1960  the CJC committee and members bought 50 Acres in Hannon Road.Probably at favourable terms from Richie Hannon.

The intension was probably to conduct race meetings. The WRC  increased their race day rentals. Fact.

Bob Morris and other committee members  at that time bought an additional 100 acres in  about 1976 ? Paid about half a million or less.

Later ( during my time ) bought Ian Alton's five acres with a horse pool.The CJC  Management's  vision at that time was Trials and Training barns. Not Race meetings.

More money could be gleaned from Trials and Training fees than owning a Race Course. Policy ...Put the dollars earned back into Stakes.

Thirty years later ? Make up your own mind.

More useless Endless Drama  that the unilateral thinking George Vercoe the WRC founder 

would be absolutely appalled.

So... Endless Drama   Has he ever raced left handed ? He has been placed second in 10 starts at Group One Level. Rating 105

Endless Drama won the  2018 Apollo Stakes ( 52 weeks ago) when Uncle Hugh was suspended and the Winx team decided not to go there.
He could well be the first Stallion/ Entire to salute  The Judge in R7 . The Haunui WFA.

 

Further to earlier answer , ED also won at LH  Naas and has  ran at Leopardstown when with Ger Lyons . Ran in Lockinge at Newbury left handed course also  but that race down straight mile .

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My actual dig was how can Endless Drama possibly beat  Volpe Veloce, Melody Belle, Supera, Consensus to the finishing line !!??
Or in deed the geldings Bostonian, More Wonder and Shadows Cast.
So the competition for the  first  Entire home in the Group One is just between Endless Drama and Wyndspelle .
Thanks Red Rum for the English information about Endless Drama.He is obviously a very good horse, great Trainer, but poor win rate. 8FF is disgusting.
 Who knows  he could go back to The Race Sponsor's paddock should he win !!

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1 hour ago, Black Kirrama said:
My actual dig was how can Endless Drama possibly beat  Volpe Veloce, Melody Belle, Supera, Consensus to the finishing line !!??
Or in deed the geldings Bostonian, More Wonder and Shadows Cast.
So the competition for the  first  Entire home in the Group One is just between Endless Drama and Wyndspelle .
Thanks Red Rum for the English information about Endless Drama.He is obviously a very good horse, great Trainer, but poor win rate. 8FF is disgusting.
 Who knows  he could go back to The Race Sponsor's paddock should he win !!

Been up against some good ones from 3 yo days BK. Within length of Gleneagles in Irish Guineas  ,and was never winning those races against Winx  or Tepin for that matter . Lyons resorted to handicap race in end at Naas.. Looks bit past best and won't have any my money on him. 

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There is a good case for all three Racing clubs to merge and create one large and appropriate racetrack 

As a long standing member and former director of the WRC I’m disappointed at my club’s yo-yo approach to this outstanding opportunity 

 

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