LightsOut 486 Report post Posted February 12, 2019 might need to read the following as it could have implications on their current career. I realise those like myself would have received the same e-mail I did but maybe they didn't consider possible consequences if in their submissions they put a big emphasis on the current state of the NZ racing Industry down to Senior NZRB management and the reasons why. “The review delivers a blunt appraisal and concludes the New Zealand’s racing industry is in a state of serious malaise. It is important that those most vested in the industry have the opportunity to provide feedback on the recommendations. I would imagine some NZRB were like John Messara very blunt and upfront on one reason why the NZ Racing Industry is in dire straits is due to the past and current senior management and gave their reasons to support their claims. They asked for public feedback on the Messara report with Public consultation to be run for five weeks, closing 5pm 19 October 2018. E-mail from the From: Milo Guichard <Milo.Guichard@dia.govt.nz>Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2019 10:30 AMTo: mickey.mouse@disneyland.comSubject: submission on Messara report Kia Ora Mickey You are receiving this email as you recently made a submission in response to John Messara’s Report on the New Zealand Racing Industry (the Report). The Department of Internal Affairs (the Department) has received an Official Information Act 1982 (the Act) request from Paul McBeth of BusinessDesk for the names of the people who made submissions on the Report. The Act requires the Department to release this information unless there are good reasons to withhold it. The Department has not identified any such reasons as the names of submitters to an open submission process are generally held to be publicly available (so your Department didn't consider that current employees of an Organisation that is in Ministerial review due to its current state of affairs could find themselves targeted by Senior Management if their submissions slates their management and performance. Seems a very good reason to me to have any NZRB employee submission names blanked out) Consequently, the Department intends to release the complete list of the names of the approximately 800 people who made submissions on the Report. This will only include names and will not include any contact details. The Department anticipates that it may also receive requests for the actual submissions. If such a request is received, the Department is likely to release that information but, again, with each submitter’s contact details removed.(one of those requests 100% will come from the NZRB). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Milo Akira Guichard | Graduate Policy Analyst | Ministerial Advice | Policy Group Department of Internal Affairs Te Tari Taiwhenua 45 Pipitea Street | PO Box 805, Wellington 6140, New Zealand | www.dia.govt.nz M: 020 412 73223 The Department of Internal Affairs is currently analysing approximately 1600 submissions that were received, and we will advise the Minister for Racing of this feedback. The Minister will announce next steps in due course. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- F%$# me the DIA is as b ad as the NZRB on crunching numbers a few weeks ago they received 1600 submissions and today they say they received 800? Two senarios here DIA staff can't count properly or 800 submissions got binned. 1600 halved down to 800 very odd. That performance wouldn't get you an interview at my work place. Public consultation requested should have remained between two party's only the person submitting feedback and the organisation requesting it. The DIA should have advised the public that under an Act any submissions may become public knowledge including the names of those who submitted feedback. 100% any NZRB employee submitting any negative info on Management would then have had an overnight name change to John Smith. The Minister requested feedback but he needs to instruct the DIA to remove any NZRB employee who were negative in feedback concerning the operations of the NZRB. Reasons allowed for doing so under the Act is pretty obvious. And maybe he could ask where did you guys lose half of the submissions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsOut 486 Report post Posted February 12, 2019 The DIA is acting on behalf of the Minister to review the NZ Racing Industry which also involves the NZRB with regards to its operations and performance and in doing so the DIA doesn't perform as it should by advising the public when they make submissions that their names might be made public until after all submissions are in. Following when submissions are all in the DIA say " The Department of Internal Affairs (the Department) has received an Official Information Act 1982 (the Act) request from Paul McBeth of BusinessDesk for the names of the people who made submissions on the Report.The Act requires the Department to release this information unless there are good reasons to withhold it'. Correct the Act does say the above but it also says which the DIA should have advised at the start as done below by another Government Department when requesting Submissions from the Public. Official Information Act 1982 We intend to publish all written submissions on the SSC website. Please note also that all submissions are subject to the Official Information Act 1982, and that your submission may therefore be the subject of a request. If you do not want your submission to be made public, please state this clearly, together with your reasons, and whether your objection relates to your whole submission or to a part or parts of it. Any personal information you supply in the course of making your submission will be used by us only in relation to the matters covered in this discussion paper. Please clearly indicate in your submission if you do not want your name to be included in any summary of submissions that we publish. The DIA failed in its Government regulated role to advise the public of a very important clause in the Official Information Act when advertising for submissions which fall under it. Conditions needed to be advised before not after the event. A bit like a Company asking for the public to provide suggestions on a new betting platform weeks after it is launched as to what they think needs to be implemented (I know crazy comparison as that would never happen.) Great isn't it you have an incompetent Organisation over seeing a review of another Incompetent Organisation. Hollywood wouldn't buy the script as no one would believe it. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMD is rife 211 Report post Posted February 12, 2019 I know a few TAB employees who commented calling out the incompetence of senior management. If the names get released you can guarantee more good people will be sent packing. LightsOut and chelseacol 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsOut 486 Report post Posted February 12, 2019 Exactly and if they had of known that do you honestly think that in a toxic filled working Organisation they would have sent a submission under their own name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted February 12, 2019 lol @ Kia Ora Mickey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Bukowski 411 Report post Posted February 12, 2019 Very Interesting... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,866 Report post Posted February 13, 2019 I had to google businessdesk to see who they were. Surely the big question is why on earth they want the names of everyone who submitted? Most organisations asking for feedback on such things assure people their comments will be anonymous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...