Newmarket RC 209 Report post Posted February 3, 2019 This is a term commonly used in Harness forums . Can anyone quote me what the exact definition is and what the penalties are for such an offense if indeed it is an offense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,231 Report post Posted February 3, 2019 Newmarket mate, as you may have seen, it (team drivin) is quite oft used in terms when AllStars are racin however, loosely put, it's referred to when there are several runners from same stable in a race, and the 'perception' is one horse is driven to help another one from that stable get to the best/preferred possie to eventually win the race......I can't quote any rulings under HRNZ regulations etc but some other posters maybe able to elucidate you on that one..... Cheers Iraklis Newmarket RC 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 There was a potential case of it at the Mot recently where McGrath had 2 in the higher graded race. It may have just been the way the race panned out so thats why i used the word potential. In that race, he took off on My Wee Man with a ways to go and in doing so gave his winning stablemate Gore Bay a perfect drag into the race. I see they are both in same race this Wednesday on the grass at Rangiora. Should be a great watch to see who does what this week. Surely not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 Not exclusive to any one or two stables Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, tim vince said: Not exclusive to any one or two stables Indeed Tim , but as Newmarket asks, what is the legal definition of it and what is the HRNZ rule that covers it off if it is indeed illegal?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enteebee 61 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 from a search of JCA site one example NZ METRO TC - 21 SEPTEMBER 2007 - Races: Rules: 869.3.f Background: Following the running of Race 3, the ?Pegasus Spur? Standing At Woodlands Stud Handicap Trot, an information was laid by Stipendiary Steward Mrs K. R. Williams against Mr D. G. McCormick alleging a breach of Rule 869(3)(f). Following the running of Race 3, the ?Pegasus Spur? Standing At Woodlands Stud Handicap Trot, an information was laid by Stipendiary Steward Mrs K. R. Williams against Mr D. G. McCormick alleging a breach of Rule 869(3)(f). The charge reads as follows. "I the above named informant allege that the above named Defendant committed a breach of Rule 869(3)(f) in that Mr McCormick (Doug) drove improperly when moving out rounding the final bend on JACKPOT GOLD which allowed the other horse he trained in the race SHEZADORABIL a run on his inside." Rule 869(3)(f) reads as follows. "No horseman in any race shall drive improperly." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket RC 209 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 54 minutes ago, enteebee said: from a search of JCA site one example NZ METRO TC - 21 SEPTEMBER 2007 - Races: Rules: 869.3.f Background: Following the running of Race 3, the ?Pegasus Spur? Standing At Woodlands Stud Handicap Trot, an information was laid by Stipendiary Steward Mrs K. R. Williams against Mr D. G. McCormick alleging a breach of Rule 869(3)(f). Following the running of Race 3, the ?Pegasus Spur? Standing At Woodlands Stud Handicap Trot, an information was laid by Stipendiary Steward Mrs K. R. Williams against Mr D. G. McCormick alleging a breach of Rule 869(3)(f). The charge reads as follows. "I the above named informant allege that the above named Defendant committed a breach of Rule 869(3)(f) in that Mr McCormick (Doug) drove improperly when moving out rounding the final bend on JACKPOT GOLD which allowed the other horse he trained in the race SHEZADORABIL a run on his inside." Rule 869(3)(f) reads as follows. "No horseman in any race shall drive improperly." Excellent work " enteebee ". Much appreciated. Do you by chance know the outcome of the inquiry and if so what the penalty was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enteebee 61 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 guilty and 5 weeks - bit earlier Alister Kyle was suspended 3 weeks for the same offence but on appeal extended to 5 weeks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 That was the pastime it happened THEN? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 Last time Newmarket RC and Iraklis 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 Happens week after week, the stipes are just too blind to notice, or perhaps they don't want to see chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enteebee 61 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, tim vince said: Last time bit more recent NON RACEDAY INQUIRY RIU V S MCNALLY - DECISION DATED 24 JULY 2018 - CHAIR MR RG MCKENZIE Created on 26 July 2018 BEFORE A JUDICIAL COMMITTEE HELD AT CHRISTCHURCH IN THE MATTER of Information No. A10235 BETWEEN N M YDGREN, Chief Stipendiary Steward for the Racing Integrity Unit Informant AND STEPHEN RONALD McNALLY of Motukarara, Licensed Open HorsemanRespondent Date of Hearing: Friday, 20 July 2018 Venue: Addington Raceway, Christchurch Judicial Committee: Mr RG McKenzie (Chairman), Mr SC Ching (Member) Present: Mr NM Ydgren (the Informant), The Respondent, in person Date of Oral Decision: 20 July 2018 Date of Written Decision: 24 July 2018 DECISION OF JUDICIAL COMMITTEE THE CHARGE [1] Information No. A10235 alleged that Mr McNally, as the driver of STAR PRIDE in Race 7, Yaldhurst Hotel Mobile Trot, at the meeting of New Zealand Metropolitan Trotting Club held at Addington Raceway, Christchurch, on 14th June 2018, committed a breach of Rule 869 (3) (f) in that “on the final bend [he] drove improperly by directing [his] horse STAR PRIDE outwards which allowed the following horse HEAVENLY LOVE an unobstructed passage”. [2] Mr Ydgren produced a letter signed by Mr M R Godber, General Manager of the Racing Integrity Unit, authorising the filing of the information pursuant to Rule 1108 (2). [3] The information was served on Mr McNally on 15 July 2018. He signed the Statement by the Respondent on the information form indicating that he did not admit the breach. [4] Mr McNally was present at the hearing of the information. The charge was read to him, together with the relevant Rule, and he confirmed that he denied the charge. THE RULE [5] The relevant Rule is as follows:869 (3) No horseman in any race shall drive:- (f) improperly. 53] Mr McNally’s Open Horseman’s licence was suspended from after the close of racing on Friday, 27th July next for a period up to and including Sunday, 12th August 2018. The race meetings intended to be encompassed by the period of suspension are Oamaru HRC on 29th July, NZ Metropolitan TC on 3rd August, Forbury Park TC on 5th August, Gore HRC on 11th August and Rangiora HRC on 12th August 2018. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket RC 209 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Stables said: Happens week after week, the stipes are just too blind to notice, or perhaps they don't want to see We need you and Long Owner on the panel based on your repetitive posts. I hope you don't gamble Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stables 577 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 I only raise the subject to counter the repetitive pro Purdon nonsense from Iraklis chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket RC 209 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Stables said: I only raise the subject to counter the repetitive pro Purdon nonsense from Iraklis Which your quite entitled to do in my book but as the old saying goes " two wrongs don't make a right". For the record i like Iraklis posts, they are more factual than many of the sites i visit Thejanitor and Iraklis 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,231 Report post Posted February 4, 2019 Ooh be careful Stables yuh startin to sound alittle ah obsessive, gee had no idea I was bakin yuh noodle to such extent LOL.....dunno what Mark Purdon ever did to you but geezuz you got it bad! Cheers Iraklis Thejanitor, Spikecity and Fartoomuch 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...