ivanthegreat 1,123 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 On behalf of all the Senior Management and Operational staff I wish to put forward this apology for any inconvenience any of our punters have experienced during the changeover period. It goes without saying that we are listening to the feedback and will respond as best we can......................................... Nah mate ya dreamin !!! typo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,825 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, ivanthegreat said: On behalf of all the Senior Management and Operational staff I wish to put forward this apology for any inconvenience any of our punters have experienced during the changeover period. It goes without saying that we are listening to the feedback and will respond as best we can......................................... Nah mate ya dreamin !!! typo "Aussies....no surprises there"...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, slam dunk said: It would appear NZTAB still have control on pricing from Paddy Power. It should be possible for them to build a degree of tolerance before changing the price. The paranoia is evidenced from this old quote from John Allen "The main financial benefit for the TAB will come from calculating odds automatically, rather than manually. That will reduce the opportunity for foreign punters to engage in "arbitrage" to take advantage of TAB mispricing. "We still control the betting strategy and ultimately the pricing approach that we want to take." Maybe they could have taken steps to eliminate the mispricing that didn't cost a $50m new system? Phantom and slam dunk 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 Can somebody please direct me to "horse ownership" on new TAB site? Can find each starter's breeding, jockey, trainer, track preferences, previous races age, colour ,form, career starts, winnings but not ownership as was discoverable in previous model.Not suddenly withheld under Privacy laws I trust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, chevy86 said: Can somebody please direct me to "horse ownership" on new TAB site? Can find each starter's breeding, jockey, trainer, track preferences, previous races age, colour ,form, career starts, winnings but not ownership as was discoverable in previous model.Not suddenly withheld under Privacy laws I trust. I see they have put it on the extended form. Alongside notes. Just would like to include in this thread the fact that Openbet platform failed dismally prior to the Melbourne Cup costing Ladbrokes, Sportingbet many customers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom 494 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Leggy said: Maybe they could have taken steps to eliminate the mispricing that didn't cost a $50m new system? Absolutely. This is one of the symptoms of the complete and utter mismanagement of their fixed odds operation since day one. Limits are too high on some options, too low on others, and they place too much faith in copying other firms' prices rather than employing decent traders with enough nous to trade their own markets and take positions. TAB's only position usually is "let's try not to take any bets". Well seems like the new platform is helping in that regard. Allen should stop talking about betting. Every time he opens his mouth he just puts his foot in it. Huey and Leggy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley 1,900 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 A change that hasn't been notified..is the leaving out of the Damsire alongside the Dam's name. This is an imperative action that needs changing..and there's plenty of emty space alongside of the Dam's name for it to be included. To have left this out speaks volumes for the lack of understanding of what punters want and need. Huey, We're Doomed, Catalano and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, hedley said: A change that hasn't been notified..is the leaving out of the Damsire alongside the Dam's name. This is an imperative action that needs changing..and there's plenty of emty space alongside of the Dam's name for it to be included. To have left this out speaks volumes for the lack of understanding of what punters want and need. Totally agree and thanks for bringing that up Hedley--has always been important re damsire having serious influence on horse handling certain track conditions. Huey, hedley and We're Doomed 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 4 hours ago, slam dunk said: I see they have put it on the extended form. Alongside notes. Thanks SD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted January 16, 2019 8 hours ago, chevy86 said: Thanks SD. Would it be so hard to have type of navigational tool so people can find what they are looking for ?Probably would save everyone time frustration and a fair amount of the negative comments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley 1,900 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 18 hours ago, chevy86 said: Totally agree and thanks for bringing that up Hedley--has always been important re damsire having serious influence on horse handling certain track conditions. Another thing wrong is the absence of Left handed or Right handed track starts., This needs to be added too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponderosa8 1,351 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, hedley said: Another thing wrong is the absence of Left handed or Right handed track starts., This needs to be added too. It is there.... that's if you know where to look. Click on EXTENDED FORM and then click on EXPAND ALL. hedley 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Ponderosa8 said: It is there.... that's if you know where to look. Click on EXTENDED FORM and then click on EXPAND ALL. That's one of the basic problems with this new platform--previously everything of importance was there with one click--now it is a bloody game of "hide and seek". IMO Baz (NZ), hedley, Huey and 3 others 4 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,825 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 I still get nothing clicking Extended Form....just a blank page. And looking at Trentham fields, why does the form commentary have no relevance to the selections... ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: I still get nothing clicking Extended Form....just a blank page. And looking at Trentham fields, why does the form commentary have no relevance to the selections... ??? Well at least the fields are there. There is nothing for Sunday at Te Rapa. Plenty Australian fields though. press function 5 when you get the blank page. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHindsight 117 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 12:30 PM, slam dunk said: It would appear NZTAB still have control on pricing from Paddy Power. It should be possible for them to build a degree of tolerance before changing the price. The paranoia is evidenced from this old quote from John Allen "The main financial benefit for the TAB will come from calculating odds automatically, rather than manually. That will reduce the opportunity for foreign punters to engage in "arbitrage" to take advantage of TAB mispricing. "We still control the betting strategy and ultimately the pricing approach that we want to take." Most likely they are getting their pricing from the Betfair API + their commission. Which is ironic considering all they seem to of achieved with this up/down grade is protecting their pricing from arbitraging . Pretty much what Tabcorp did with java. Paranoia . Arbitrage = .picking up pennies in front of a steam roller , you could never get on the amount you need to to make it worthwhile. Idiots , vote with your feet and go where the pricing comes from. If you want to see where the smart money is going watch Betfair 1-2 minutes before the jump. THE TORCH 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHindsight 117 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 I wonder if John Allan could give us an example of arbitrage explaining the maths behind it. Just a stamp licker I think. I guess what they mean is "We don't know how to price anything and are really scared we might make a mistake. We copy someone else" THE TORCH, hedley and Phantom 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsOut 486 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 While I am still not happy with some of the new Betting Platform web site layout it was very pleasing to see John Allen in The Informant acknowledging that they are addressing their customers issues and working through them eg a single page scratching list for all of the days meetings. If you are critical on a company or organisation regarding its performance then it's only fair to be positive when they do things right. As a PR exercise the message from the CEO was a step in the right direction by keeping the NZRB's customers well informed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, LightsOut said: While I am still not happy with some of the new Betting Platform web site layout it was very pleasing to see John Allen in The Informant acknowledging that they are addressing their customers issues and working through them eg a single page scratching list for all of the days meetings. If you are critical on a company or organisation regarding its performance then it's only fair to be positive when they do things right. As a PR exercise the message from the CEO was a step in the right direction by keeping the NZRB's customers well informed. Fair point. But how many of their customers actually read the Informant? I certainly don't, so haven't and probably won't get the "message". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalano 951 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Do you remember that Simpsons episode where Homer designed a car? This reminds me of that THE TORCH 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,076 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, Catalano said: Do you remember that Simpsons episode where Homer designed a car? This reminds me of that ivanthegreat and Catalano 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzim 338 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Trent ham fields seem to have disappeared.I should have gone to spec savers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzim 338 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 I’ve been to specsavers their back now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom 494 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, LightsOut said: While I am still not happy with some of the new Betting Platform web site layout it was very pleasing to see John Allen in The Informant acknowledging that they are addressing their customers issues and working through them eg a single page scratching list for all of the days meetings. If you are critical on a company or organisation regarding its performance then it's only fair to be positive when they do things right. As a PR exercise the message from the CEO was a step in the right direction by keeping the NZRB's customers well informed. If they hadn't been given a monopoly they would have to get rid of 75% of the fat they've been carrying including obviously Allen and Hughes and all the wan.. sorry bankers and lawyers and postal workers (WTFF) they have hired in the last ten years. Allen's only agenda is keeping his job because he's actually very smart and therefore knows he has no clue what he is doing. As Harry Hindsight mentioned, I think he would struggle to explain arbitrage, and one of the first things this joint need to do is to stop copying other firms' prices. Petone uses up what 70% of the bandwidth on this site (Scooby is that right?). Well I challenge any one of those users to go down to the Fixed Odds department in Petone on any given afternoon and i guarantee every second PC is displaying Bet365's in play prices for every fixture they are trading live. Therein lies a major part of the problem. Rusty and THE TORCH 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shodsie 208 Report post Posted January 18, 2019 phantom...... you do realize that sports betting has basically been outsourced there is no bookie there changing odds etc?? no point having bet365 odds open now as they are irrelevant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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