what a post 811 Report post Posted January 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, JackSprat said: Ahh, the "facts". Something that has been sadly lacking in this case from day one! Pound4pound's explanation about the police's lack of understanding of "racing vernacular" is spot on. Any trainer or driver worth their salt is always trying to gather "competitive intelligence". Who's looking for the front? Who's going back at the start? Who's confident? Who's not? Who's travelled well? Who hasn't? Who's worked well during the week? Who hasn't? None of which in any way constitutes race fixing. There's a world of difference between gathering information that may give you a slight competitive advantage, and "fixing" a race. In fact, I'd be seriously concerned if my driver wasn't continuously gathering information about his opposition in search of a competitive advantage! It appeared from the very start that the police had added 2 and 2 together, and came up with 27! The longer this matter drags on, the more apparent this is becoming! Like ive said before,the video of the race at nelson speaks for itself. You don't have to be an expert to see what is obvious. If there are Related conversations and financial transactions then it is gone burger. The length of time it takes to pass through the court system is irrelevant to guilt or innocence. Fartoomuch and Thejanitor 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger 96 Report post Posted January 3, 2019 P4P . Give it a rest, this has to go through the courts match fixing became a serious crime in 2014 , as you will be well aware, if the RIU believed that match fixing was happening, they were obligated to involve the police, once again you will be well aware of this, to demean them and the police at this stage does not help the people you are defending if anything it makes it worse, for them and the others. To post that government told the police to turn a blind eye to the use of cannabis apart from medicinal and party drugs is rubbish, they are illegal and until a law is passed through parliament to legalize them. I hope that other posters on this site have enough intelligence to understand the point I am trying to make.I also believe that trying to intimidate and abuse others on this site does yourself no favors. I hope you have a nice day. Stables 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilcoyne 196 Report post Posted January 3, 2019 Thanks for your insight P4P. Tell me where did you study law and do you have a current practicing certificate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted January 3, 2019 Interesting .defending oneself even when u win is a very costly business.it has ruined people.s lives even when exonerated. Stables 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
what a post 811 Report post Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, poundforpound said: I’m trying to bite my tongue here but I have to say tha if you think that Nelson video incriminates anyone you’re nuts, it exonerates them FFS You're a very gullible and arguably stupid person WAP Thanks,i will take that as a compliment. Its one of the nicest things you've said about me anyway. Keep up the good fight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,857 Report post Posted January 3, 2019 Guys and gals lets keep the debate robust but please play the subject not the man...cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
napier 339 Report post Posted January 3, 2019 I hope your defending the race fixing people Leo as i think its a joke. Hope your not defending the drug taking/supplying idiots that are on charges.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,824 Report post Posted January 3, 2019 I've heard similar from local people involved. The RIU are digging a big hole here and won't look good at the end of it. If found innocent, and the charges proved to be largely frivolous and without merit, these guys should able to recover any costs incurred. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,857 Report post Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, poundforpound said: Just trying to give the debate some balance ... you seem to have an audience that doesn’t subscribe to being “innocent until proven guilty” here Scooby. Yes mate but don't let it get personal like the other cesspit site...where one or two posters do as they please and ruin plenty of threads...I think this is a subject that needs discussion as it is sure seems there are two very different camps, someone at the end of the day is either going to be guilty... or a heap of people will have egg on their faces. Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, poundforpound said: from what I have seen this is the greatest witch hunt of our time, Unfortunately 2nd greatest at best P4P--there is a bigger one happening in "the land of the free"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,824 Report post Posted January 4, 2019 47 minutes ago, chevy86 said: Unfortunately 2nd greatest at best P4P--there is a bigger one happening in "the land of the free"! What...you mean the one with the orange turd who is as crooked as they come and couldn't lie straight in bed....?? Justice is coming Chevy....although if you continue to watch Fox you won't know that, or believe it anyway probably.... And maybe next time the 20 million lazy "free" bastards who didn't get off their arses to vote, just might...... lamour 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Ohokaman said: What...you mean the one with the orange turd who is as crooked as they come and couldn't lie straight in bed....?? Justice is coming Chevy....although if you continue to watch Fox you won't know that, or believe it anyway probably.... And maybe next time the 20 million lazy "free" bastards who didn't get off their arses to vote, just might...... Get over it O'man. I don't care who won, just as long as it was not that duplicitous bitch Clinton. Even with the votes of 30 million illegals she couldn't get home! Don't focus so much on the messenger, concentrate on the message which is the antithesis of UN socialism. Trump has learnt well from previous Democrat scumbags such as "Aqua" Ted Kennedy and Slick Willie. lamour and Thejanitor 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,824 Report post Posted January 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, chevy86 said: Get over it O'man. I don't care who won, just as long as it was not that duplicitous bitch Clinton. Even with the votes of 30 million illegals she couldn't get home! Don't focus so much on the messenger, concentrate on the message which is the antithesis of UN socialism. Trump has learnt well from previous Democrat scumbags such as "Aqua" Ted Kennedy and Slick Willie. Jeez you talk some crap. Stop watching the redneck channel and get with the real world...not Trump's alternative reality FFS..... lamour 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted January 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Jeez you talk some crap. Funnily enough that's what my wife and kids say! But it's fun tuning them up. tasman man 11 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,857 Report post Posted January 4, 2019 13 hours ago, chevy86 said: Funnily enough that's what my wife and kids say! But it's fun tuning them up. Chevy he is one of the worst human beings ever to hold such an office is in it for nobody except himself and his brand...I would say he has about a million skeletons in the closet...but please keep talk of this horrible person to the main street cafe...dont bring it here. Iraklis and ivanthegreat 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,704 Report post Posted January 4, 2019 Sorry Scooby, in our new 'trans" world I didn't think a little cross-over would hurt. Point taken. tasman man 11 and scooby3051 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTimTimbo 227 Report post Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/4/2019 at 11:16 AM, scooby3051 said: Chevy he is one of the worst human beings ever to hold such an office is in it for nobody except himself and his brand...I would say he has about a million skeletons in the closet...but please keep talk of this horrible person to the main street cafe...dont bring it here. When the world finds the level of Treasonous activity this POS has done, you will all be shocked at how many people go down. There are Hundreds of people from many different countries going down. This "Kiwi" living over here is watching this slow moving train wreck. Many Americans hate Trump and are embarrassed by what is happening to this country. He is fully owned by Russian Mob and it's not just Putin he fears but Putin's Boss. Semion Mogilevich who runs the Russian Mob. This guy makes the italian Mafia look like a joke. He is the real person in charge. Also the reason why Manafort got caught lying to Robert Mueller. Trust me, they have Trump and his cohorts on Signals intel and he cooked. Thejanitor and Stables 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...