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eljay

The Cup - Standing Start

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Well, were all you followers satisfied with the starters attempts to get the field away fairly.    Hell, they started walking then pacing from about 30 metres from the starting point.     No way was either effort to get the field started competently handled.       And, as usual, drivers obviously abused the walk up for their own benefit while others were left some distance behind when all were supposed to be off the same mark.        And guys, you will have it over again on Friday with the big Trot!       Please HRNZ, it's time you consulted the senior drivers and got their views on the start and if necessary get another starter, if only for the big races!      We often see in stipes reports that they comment on monies invested in respect horses interfered with in the running so surely this no different where the starters blunders also affect the punter!

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6 hours ago, eljay said:

Well, were all you followers satisfied with the starters attempts to get the field away fairly.    Hell, they started walking then pacing from about 30 metres from the starting point.     No way was either effort to get the field started competently handled.       And, as usual, drivers obviously abused the walk up for their own benefit while others were left some distance behind when all were supposed to be off the same mark.        And guys, you will have it over again on Friday with the big Trot!       Please HRNZ, it's time you consulted the senior drivers and got their views on the start and if necessary get another starter, if only for the big races!      We often see in stipes reports that they comment on monies invested in respect horses interfered with in the running so surely this no different where the starters blunders also affect the punter!

Both starts were a shambles. The first they were walking up at excessive speed, no wonder one of them broke the tape. The second go wasn't much better and could also easily have been a cock-up. Few horses were on the tape when he said "RIGHT". The Fixer was two or three lengths from the tape, he broke for a few strides. What the hell is going on with Lamb? I thought that the No. 1 horse had to line-up first against the tape with the others following suit... that's how it used to be. Now it's a lottery. 
If Lamb is to continue in the job perhaps it is time to make the Cup a mobile?

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1 hour ago, Thejanitor said:

Both starts were a shambles. The first they were walking up at excessive speed, no wonder one of them broke the tape. The second go wasn't much better and could also easily have been a cock-up. Few horses were on the tape when he said "RIGHT". The Fixer was two or three lengths from the tape, he broke for a few strides. What the hell is going on with Lamb? I thought that the No. 1 horse had to line-up first against the tape with the others following suit... that's how it used to be. Now it's a lottery. 
If Lamb is to continue in the job perhaps it is time to make the Cup a mobile?

Someone was trying to tell me Lamb is also on RIU now, can anyone confirm or deny that.

If its true what sort of conflict would that be.

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37 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said:

Someone was trying to tell me Lamb is also on RIU now, can anyone confirm or deny that.

If its true what sort of conflict would that be.

One would think a massive one given the RIU could potentially fine the official starter for any number of HRNZ notified offences

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I thought a well balanced discussion on Cup starts by Mick  on Box Seat. Greg's a fence sitter but Mick once again told it how he saw it and introduced the concept that all was not well with Canterbury horseman , the RIU and Lamb. Apparently all is not well and one solution is to get rid of Lamb and let someone else start the races.

 

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One replacement would be a huge improvement is Gary Phillips ,CD region starts everything except dogs but no doubt he could do that as well. A respected horseman. Lack of theatricks,no screaming Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigghhtt.' just gets on with people and his job. (only thing we dont want to lose him but Cup week woth a thought. :rcfe-smile:

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6 hours ago, john legend said:

 One replacement would be a huge improvement is Gary Phillips ,CD region starts everything except dogs but no doubt he could do that as well. A respected horseman. Lack of theatricks,no screaming Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigghhtt.' just gets on with people and his job. (only thing we dont want to lose him but Cup week woth a thought. :rcfe-smile:

Ricky Donnelly I believe is Lambs assistant and is a good horseman and well respected in both Gallops and harness ranks.

Someone who has natural horse sense 

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