Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 Word from AS barn is that RIU have given Nat the thumbs up to return to trials and race driving. So it's trials Wednesday and Addington there after driving Eamon as The Fixer stil not 100% Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner 217 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 Great to see - at last some commonsense ! Thejanitor, tasman man 11, Iraklis and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket RC 209 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 So the AS team can put this RIU reversal on their Webpage yesterday but nothing yet on RIU webpage, just shows who are the more professional in terms of keeping the public abreast of situations. Who knows what is occurring with the others who have been charged and are before the courts again today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Newmarket said: So the AS team can put this RIU reversal on their Webpage yesterday but nothing yet on RIU webpage, just shows who are the more professional in terms of keeping the public abreast of situations. Who knows what is occurring with the others who have been charged and are before the courts again today Perhaps the RIU are awaiting court appearances today for fear of breaching any name suppression orders? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said: Perhaps the RIU are awaiting court appearances today for fear of breaching any name suppression orders? I think its a separate issue but Mr Godber was rather quick to bring Judge Neave's comments to the fore late last when asked for comment re progress for those wanting to be allowed back on course. I think Mr Godber was being rather convenient. LongOwner 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblerone 242 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Newmarket said: So the AS team can put this RIU reversal on their Webpage yesterday but nothing yet on RIU webpage, just shows who are the more professional in terms of keeping the public abreast of situations. Who knows what is occurring with the others who have been charged and are before the courts again today The RIU can't comment on most of those charged specifically due to temporary suppression orders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Toblerone said: The RIU can't comment on most of those charged specifically due to temporary suppression orders. Correct and wont it be interesting to see if those orders are lifted today along with KH's excellent observation of the Godber/Judge interface issues re being allowed to ply their trade on course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 Name suppression expires in another week according to this: https://theinformant.co.nz/inca-accused-reappear-in-court/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Kotare_Hunter said: I think its a separate issue but Mr Godber was rather quick to bring Judge Neave's comments to the fore late last when asked for comment re progress for those wanting to be allowed back on course. I think Mr Godber was being rather convenient. When this is all done and dusted it might be time for him to move on, he has hardly been a success at the job IMHO and it follows obvious failure in a previous position Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJESTIC 179 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said: Name suppression expires in another week according to this: https://theinformant.co.nz/inca-accused-reappear-in-court/ Does this mean that they are all still barred or allowed to enter race courses (as per John Dunn last Friday night at Addington being on course)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJESTIC said: Does this mean that they are all still barred or allowed to enter race courses (as per John Dunn last Friday night at Addington being on course)? That is being dealt with on a case by case basis I think Mr Godber said last week. So given this wont go to trial for perhaps a year or even more I would hope that gets lifted sooner rather than later. LongOwner 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enteebee 61 Report post Posted October 2, 2018 March 25 the date https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/107536106/jury-to-hear-harness-racefixing-cases Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted October 2, 2018 3 hours ago, enteebee said: March 25 the date https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/107536106/jury-to-hear-harness-racefixing-cases March 25 is for the Crown case review hearing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted October 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Kotare_Hunter said: March 25 is for the Crown case review hearing. If the exclusion from racecourses is for "the purpose of maintaining public confidence in the conduct of horse racing and integrity of racing betting" as the Racing Act requires, then those charged with race-fixing should not be allowed back on course until those criminal charges are dealt with. On that basis, those facing drug offences should be able to argue that their exclusions be reversed ..... but I for one hope they are drug tested before every meeting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted October 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said: If the exclusion from racecourses is for "the purpose of maintaining public confidence in the conduct of horse racing and integrity of racing betting" as the Racing Act requires, then those charged with race-fixing should not be allowed back on course until those criminal charges are dealt with. On that basis, those facing drug offences should be able to argue that their exclusions be reversed ..... but I for one hope they are drug tested before every meeting. Lets see who is on course and maybe even reigning a few in the next week around Canterbury. Nat is a certainty this Friday but no sign at this stage of any others. I see Mark Jones has taken 2 outside drives on the night and a few have no one declared. All will be revealed in good time one hopes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 682 Report post Posted October 2, 2018 11 hours ago, Taku Umanga said: If the exclusion from racecourses is for "the purpose of maintaining public confidence in the conduct of horse racing and integrity of racing betting" as the Racing Act requires, then those charged with race-fixing should not be allowed back on course until those criminal charges are dealt with. On that basis, those facing drug offences should be able to argue that their exclusions be reversed ..... but I for one hope they are drug tested before every meeting. Are drug test results instantaneous? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted October 2, 2018 5 hours ago, Lee270744 said: Are drug test results instantaneous? I am not sure about that. Any reason the meeting couldn't be put back until the result was available? Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
what a post 811 Report post Posted October 3, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 12:33 PM, Fartoomuch said: When this is all done and dusted it might be time for him to move on, he has hardly been a success at the job IMHO and it follows obvious failure in a previous position I actually think this current investigation shows the 'I' in RIU actually stands for something, so personally I don't think the riu or mr gobder deserve criticism relating to current issues. ivanthegreat and We're Doomed 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted October 3, 2018 I see Blair Orange was driving at the trials today .... https://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/trials/100396tr.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted October 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said: I see Blair Orange was driving at the trials today .... https://infohorse.hrnz.co.nz/datahr/trials/100396tr.htm John Dunn too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted October 3, 2018 Given that Nat is allowed it would have been very hard to deny those 2 IMHO. When they get to race drive is another matter given neither are declared this weekend. Perhaps orders from the 9th court appearance will clear matters up further. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikecity 747 Report post Posted October 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Fartoomuch said: Given that Nat is allowed it would have been very hard to deny those 2 IMHO. When they get to race drive is another matter given neither are declared this weekend. Perhaps orders from the 9th court appearance will clear matters up further. but Nat was not charged with race fixing - hard to believe the other two are allowed to drive Thejanitor and Fartoomuch 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted October 3, 2018 9 hours ago, Spikecity said: but Nat was not charged with race fixing - hard to believe the other two are allowed to drive Agreed. I thought I mentioned that but looked back and saw I made the distinction on a PM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
napier 339 Report post Posted October 4, 2018 Genuine question..... Would you rather drive in a race against A....... a race fixer B........a druggie Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted October 4, 2018 7 hours ago, napier said: Genuine question..... Would you rather drive in a race against A....... a race fixer B........a druggie A. A race fixer will as a rule not endanger the lives of others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...