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''While Brazil has elected a climate sceptical president, Germany’s ‘climate chancellor’ Angela Merkel has announced that she is gradually stepping down from her political roles. 

The alliance of rich, emerging and poor economies that sealed the Paris climate deal is falling apart.

In 2015, the world’s top two emitters, the US and China, joined with Brazil, some small island countries and the European Union, led by Germany, France and the UK, to land the agreement.

But climate change politics have shifted significantly since then, with two more big tilts this week. Brazil elected a staunch and radical anti-environmentalist president, while Germany’s Angela Merkel confirmed her exit plans, further weakening an already fading image as the “climate chancellor” and Europe’s go-to leader in the field. Bolsonaro said last week that he would not pull out of the Paris Agreement, as long as it did not affect Brazilian control over the Andes mountains, Amazon and Atlantic Ocean. Previously, however, he praised US president Trump for his decision to withdraw.

Now, in many important countries, climate scepticism and economic nationalism are usurping the international green enthusiasm of 2015. As a result, political support for slashing greenhouse gas emissions, sending aid to the poorest and most vulnerable countries and discussing it all in multilateral summits is waning. Others that remain committed to climate action are consumed by domestic concerns .''

 

Trouble ahead for the scammers/socialists , I'll bet cindy still hands over the $1 BILLION a year we foolishly signed up for. The record for politician's who get carried away with climate is not looking so hot , Merkel , Turnbull , Trudeau , gone or about to go , on the other side we see the rise of the Don , Bolsonaro , Erdogan from Turkey who will stay in Paris  as long as Turkey receives funds from the climate fund and of course China  the biggest polluter who also has their hand out for $ , it's amazing how many of the country's that are really keen climate disciples  are actually beneficiary's not payers , take away the promised free ride for these country's and the whole thing collapses .

 

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Miranda should have done her homework

by Guest Post
 

Miranda Chang is very passionate about writing, especially global, entertainment, and scientific current events. She is currently a senior and president, co-founder of World Love Organization.  She writes for the LA Times and is very influential among younger people interested in the environment.

In 2015 she wrote…

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Miranda could have done some homework.  The same prediction was made 30 years ago (cyclical event?)  and I expect it will be rerun in 2048.

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The predictions continue on sea level rise but actual measurements show no change – just small rises unchanged in intensity since recording began.

More importantly, the atolls rise faster from accretion.  That’s proven science, not fake science by money-grubbing, state-paid charlatans.

 

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11 hours ago, rdytdy said:

Miranda should have done her homework

by Guest Post
 

Miranda Chang is very passionate about writing, especially global, entertainment, and scientific current events. She is currently a senior and president, co-founder of World Love Organization.  She writes for the LA Times and is very influential among younger people interested in the environment.

In 2015 she wrote…

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Miranda could have done some homework.  The same prediction was made 30 years ago (cyclical event?)  and I expect it will be rerun in 2048.

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The predictions continue on sea level rise but actual measurements show no change – just small rises unchanged in intensity since recording began.

More importantly, the atolls rise faster from accretion.  That’s proven science, not fake science by money-grubbing, state-paid charlatans.

 

'' actual measurements  show no change '' , 

There was change , to historical measurements , they altered past measurements to make the current readings show levels are rising.

 

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UN’s alarming suggestion that we just have twelve years left to save the planet. 

  • Andrew Simms told us a year later that we had “only 100 months to avoid disaster.” Meaning time ran out in 2016…
  • Al Gore told us that we had just ten years in July of 2008 to ensure the “survival of the United States of America”So America has been screwed for four months now…
  • Jim Hensen, warned in 2009 that Obama only had “four years to save Earth.” Apparently Earth was lost in 2013…
  • Prince Charles told us in May 2008 that we had “just eighteen months to stop climate change.” That gave us until the end of 2009…
  • Prince Charles by July 2009, on the other had this had been extended to “just 96 months to save the world.” Time ran out in 2017…
  • Lester Brown published in 2009 that we had “only months, not years” to “save civilisation from climate change.

If anyone had the time to list all of  the failed predictions it would be a very very long list , 

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Waiting for the Fake News retraction

by WH 
 
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Peter Bowes

A week or so back, the headlines around the world were all about how it was worse than we thought.

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Even here in New Zealand, A Newspaper got on board with the doom and gloom. Quote.

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The world’s oceans have been soaking up far more excess heat in recent decades than scientists realised, suggesting that Earth could be set to warm even faster than predicted in the years ahead, according to new research published yesterday. End quote.

Strangely, the media have been very silent about the fact that the “peer reviewed” paper got the maths wrong.  Even when it was pointed out that the data contained in the original paper does not support the conclusions of that scare story, the media remain silent.

The science is all a tad esoteric; rather than actually measuring the temperatures to find out about warming, the research the paper was based on measured gases. Quote.

The new research does not measure the ocean’s temperature directly. Rather, it measures the volume of gases, specifically oxygen and carbon dioxide, that have escaped the ocean in recent decades and headed into the atmosphere as it heats up. End quote.

One scientist, after reading the first page and doing some quick mental arithmetic, thought that the published result did not pass the ‘sniff test’ so he dug into the data to see why.  This is what he said: Quote.

The findings of the Resplandy et al paper were peer reviewed and published in the world’s premier scientific journal and were given wide coverage in the English-speaking media. Despite this, a quick review of the first page of the paper was sufficient to raise doubts as to the accuracy of its results. Just a few hours of analysis and calculations, based only on published information, was sufficient to uncover apparently serious (but surely inadvertent) errors in the underlying calculations.

Moreover, even if the paper’s results had been correct, they would not have justified its findings regarding an increase to 2.0°C in the lower bound of the equilibrium climate sensitivity range and a 25% reduction in the carbon budget for 2°C global warming.

Because of the wide dissemination of the paper’s results, it is extremely important that these errors are acknowledged by the authors without delay and then corrected.

Of course, it is also very important that the media outlets that unquestioningly trumpeted the paper’s findings now correct the record too.

But perhaps that is too much to hope for.

Nicholas Lewis 6 November 2018. End quote.

Here is a graph from the paper:

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Figure 1. ΔAPOClimate data values (black), the least squares linear fit (blue line) to them, and the linear trend per Resplandy et al. (red line)

Mr Lewis got the data, fed it into a program to get the linear trend and it was different from the trend published.  So he wrote to the authors of the paper:  Quote.

I wanted to make sure that I had not overlooked something in my calculations, so later on November 1st I emailed Laure Resplandy querying the […] trend figure in her paper and asking for her to look into the difference in our trend estimates as a matter of urgency, explaining that in view of the media coverage of the paper I was contemplating web-publishing a comment on it within a matter of days. To date I have had no substantive response from her, despite subsequently sending a further email containing the key analysis sections from a draft of this article. End quote.

While I accept that the Herald writers are not scientists and only parrot what they get over the wires from overseas news sources, one might have thought that there was a little integrity left and a retraction could be printed telling us all not to worry after all.

But no, even on 9 November, well after the research was debunked, the Herald was still promulgating the same doom and gloom error. Quote.

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Now it’s been proven the ocean is absorbing 60 per cent more heat than was thought. Not only does the water temperature go up, the seas become more acidic and currents (and therefore also winds) begin to behave in strange anomalous ways – resulting for example in more frequent and severe hurricanes. End quote.

As mentioned, the science is all very esoteric; those who have a mind to can read it all at Judith Curry’s blog, but the short answer is, when the correct maths is used, is that everything is pretty normal.

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An old saying , God loves a tryer , Zimbabwe is having a go , can't blame them , this would be funny if it wasn't for the fact we are paying $1BILLION  a year into the slush fund and of course good old Trump has abandoned ship  and won't stump up with the cash , perhaps cindy might increase our crazy gesture , to hell with our homeless .

Rich nations led by the United States and the European Union in 2009 pledged to avail $100 billion climate-related aid to developing countries per year by 2020.

Zimbabwe needs about $90 billion to adapt, and to mitigate the effects of climate change between now and 2030, according to a Government plan drawn up under the Paris treaty ,  developing countries and Zimbabwe in particular are very keen on to ensure that the financing for adaptation is provided for, especially by the developed countries who have accepted historical responsibility of having caused current climate change,” he said.

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Bad news for the climate zealots , cindy included , it seems we are going to invest more in wind farms , this will put a spanner in the works . Its been a mystery to me for a long time how wind turbines covering our hills can be considered environment friendly , they are a blight on the landscape but it seems the greens and environmentalists are happy to put up with these eyesores .

The  world health organization declaration will arm opponents of these blights on our landscape with proof they are hazardous , information that can be used to oppose resource consents being granted for their construction . 

 

The German government has been caught erasing data that shows residents are exposed to levels of wind turbine infrasound dangerous to health. Not for the first time and not for the last time is a government complicit in causing wholesale harm to its citizens. No country went harder or faster than Germany when it came to the rollout of industrial wind. And no government has more to lose, as residents react to the contempt that’s been dished out to them on a daily basis, for nearly 20 years.

The World Health Organization’s declaration that wind turbine noise is a serious health hazard, is a liability bombshell for developers and governments, alike.

No longer can wind power outfits and those that make a living running propaganda for them claim that ‘there’s nothing to see here, move on.’ The wind industry’s victims – mocked and denigrated for years – have been vindicated. Now comes the vengeance. Litigation is already on foot in Victoria, with more claims to follow.

 

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21 minutes ago, Uriah Heap said:

I know it's no scientific measurement, but I don't recall news of forest fires in USA in the past. Now we get them every year. What's that all about?

Been burning on and off for ever but without the media hype . If you build houses in a forest in a dry area then sooner or later it's gunna burn .

California Fires History
The Mendocino Complex Fire burned more than 459,000 acres (186,000 ha), becoming the largest complex fire in the state's history, with the complex's Ranch Fire surpassing the Thomas Fire and the Santiago Canyon Fire of 1889 to become California's single-largest recorded wildfire. to search

 

ex Wikipedia.

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Santa Ana winds in California expands fires and spreads smoke over hundreds of miles, as in this October 2007 satellite image
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The Rim Fire consumed more than 250,000 acres (100,000 ha) of forest near Yosemite National Park, in 2013

California has dry, windy and often hot weather conditions from spring through late autumn that can produce moderate to devastating wildfires. At times, these wildfires are fanned or made worse by strong, dry winds, known as Diablo winds when they occur in the northern part of the state and Santa Ana winds when they occur in the south. Wildfires in California are growing more dangerous as people build in rural burn areas. United States taxpayers pay about US$3 billion a year to fight wildfires, and big fires can lead to billions of dollars in property losses.[1]

The following is a list of notable wildfires of various sizes that have occurred in California.

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45 minutes ago, rdytdy said:

Hailing in Auckland and snow in the South Island in November. Three degrees in the Waikato this morning.

Thank goodness for global warming otherwise we would freezing our nuts off. :rolleyes:

Climate change Ted....typhoons in Canterbury....?! :rolleyes:

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Is change in the wind?

by WH 
 
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Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro (left) and Foreign MInister Ernesto Araújo.

The Guardian  headlines: Brazil’s new foreign minister believes climate change is a Marxist plot. Quote.

Brazil’s president-elect Jair Bolsonaro has chosen a new foreign minister who believes climate change is part of a plot by “cultural Marxists” to stifle western economies and promote the growth of China.

Ernesto Araújo – until recently a mid-ranking official who blogs about the “criminalisation” of red meat, oil and heterosexual sex – will become the top diplomat of South America’s biggest nation, representing 200 million people and the greatest and most biodiverse forest on Earth, the Amazon.

His appointment, confirmed by Bolsonaro on Wednesday, is likely to send a chill through the global climate movement. End quote.

A chill is just what is needed to stop that rampant global warming! Quote.

Brazil was where the international community first came together in 1992 to discuss reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. Its diplomats have played a crucial role in bridging the gap between rich and poor nations, particularly during the forging of the Paris agreement in 2015.

But when the new government takes power in January, the foreign ministry that leads that work will be headed by a man who claims climate science is merely “dogma”.

In his blog, Araújo states his goal is to “help Brazil and the world liberate themselves from globalist ideology”, which he sees as anti-Christian.

The 51-year-old diplomat – who has never served as an overseas ambassador – claims unnamed leftist politicians have hijacked environmentalism to serve as a tool for global domination.

“This dogma has been used to justify increasing the regulatory power of states over the economy and the power of international institutions on the nation states and their populations, as well as to stifle economic growth in democratic capitalist countries and to promote the growth of China,” he wrote in a post last month.

In another, he claimed the centre-left Workers party in Brazil was “criminalising sex and reproduction, saying that all heterosexual intercourse is rape and every baby is a risk to the planet as it will increase carbon emissions”. He then went on to accuse the party of criminalising red meat, oil, air conditioners and Disney movies.

The incendiary rhetoric echoes that of Bolsonaro, who won last month’s presidential election with about 57.7m votes. The former army captain has since moved to put in place one of the world’s most far-right administrations and promised to align Brazil more closely to Trump and the US.

Climate negotiation experts said the appointment was sad for Brazil and the world – though they held out hope that the new foreign minister will be more pragmatic when he comes to represent his country. End quote.

Let’s hope he stays true to his beliefs. Quote.

“Brazil has played a very significant role for the Paris agreement. It would be really bad for the country’s image if he brings with him his ideology,” said Carlos Rittl, the executive secretary of the Brazilian Climate Observatory.

He said climate was the one area where Brazil could proudly boast to be a global leader, and urged the new foreign minister and president not to isolate the country in this field.

“Bolsonaro is not Trump. Brazil is not the United States. We don’t have the same cards,” he said. “If Brazil becomes a pariah on the global climate agenda, it would be extremely bad for our business, especially agribusiness. When they go to Europe to negotiate a deal, climate safeguards will be on the table. ” […] End quote.

The current climate nonsense started in Rio in 1992 with the Agenda 21 document.  Let’s hope that Rio can be part of a way back from this stupidity.

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13 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

This is the report put out by the Trump Government that he wants to ignore.....:rcf-monkey::rcf-monkey-1::rcf-clown:.

https://nca2018.globalchange.gov/

Why would anyone bother to read this crap unless they are paid to read it , the authors are well and truly on the gravy train and are lefty Trump haters .

Now I presume this relates to California , Ohoka please explain  , the climate scammers recon we are headed towards a 1.5deg (used to be 2deg)  increase in temperature , in other words we are not there yet , NOT even close so if they are correct with the 1.5 then California has MUCH greater problems ahead of them.  Trumps solution of forest management is the only logical/practical action that can be taken , emissions worldwide are raising , something Trump has no control of . 

What you need to know is under Trump business is booming but emissions in the USA are falling , Chinas  emissions are up 7% this year and they have no intention of stopping or even easing their emissions , Trump is also right when says this is a leftist political scam , it's about lefty world control ,  last week Angela Merkel called on other European country's to hand over sovereignty to Brussels , she wants all Europeans to have just one government in Brussels , she is also the biggest climate scammer in the EU . Climate change is nothing new , it's always changed but now it's a political tool and a very dangerous political tool .

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It's not about a lefty bid for world control..it is about right wing control and extreme right at that.

A New World Order that finds big business in control and governing eventually., the T.P.P.A. is the chassis for that.

And as far as global warming goes, the symptoms are created by H.A.A.R.P. and you'll have to You Tube it for an explaination..it's been manifest for about 40yrs so far.

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2 hours ago, tripple alliance said:

Why would anyone bother to read this crap unless they are paid to read it , the authors are well and truly on the gravy train and are lefty Trump haters .

Now I presume this relates to California , Ohoka please explain  , the climate scammers recon we are headed towards a 1.5deg (used to be 2deg)  increase in temperature , in other words we are not there yet , NOT even close so if they are correct with the 1.5 then California has MUCH greater problems ahead of them.  Trumps solution of forest management is the only logical/practical action that can be taken , emissions worldwide are raising , something Trump has no control of . 

What you need to know is under Trump business is booming but emissions in the USA are falling , Chinas  emissions are up 7% this year and they have no intention of stopping or even easing their emissions , Trump is also right when says this is a leftist political scam , it's about lefty world control ,  last week Angela Merkel called on other European country's to hand over sovereignty to Brussels , she wants all Europeans to have just one government in Brussels , she is also the biggest climate scammer in the EU . Climate change is nothing new , it's always changed but now it's a political tool and a very dangerous political tool .

Bollocks. Trump practical and logical..? Like raking the forests as the Finns apparently don't...??

What's that saying..." There are none so blind as those that will not see...." ??

:rcf-monkey: :rcf-shocked-4: :rcf-angry-2:

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2 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

Bollocks. Trump practical and logical..? Like raking the forests as the Finns apparently don't...??

What's that saying..." There are none so blind as those that will not see...." ??

:rcf-monkey: :rcf-shocked-4: :rcf-angry-2:

Education time , now pay attention and try to learn .

California has laws like we do , remember the winds that destroyed huge areas of forest on the west coast a few years ago , valuable trees were left to rot , nature doing it's thing , luckily an exemption was made in parliament to salvage some but the law in place at the time stated do not touch. California has the same sort of law but they have another problem , they have a beetle that kills trees , by law the dead trees are not allowed to be removed , nature must do it's thing , the result is dead/super dry trees amongst the living trees , the slightest spark and it's instant fire.

This type of Californian stupidity is what super Don is on about , remove the trees and lesson the risk ,  when people build in such areas they are taking a huge risk , that's their fault not Trumps .

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When JC was playing half back for the Nazareth third grade team he mentioned to the line out jumper Big John, that the climate had been changing for the past 3000 years.  Big John, whom nobody wanted to go swimming with because he would give them a ducking, said;

"Yes Jesus, and the climate will change for the next 3000 years."

Thomas, at first five eighth, mentioned that he had his doubts about that half back.

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9 hours ago, hedley said:

It's not about a lefty bid for world control..it is about right wing control and extreme right at that.

A New World Order that finds big business in control and governing eventually., the T.P.P.A. is the chassis for that.

And as far as global warming goes, the symptoms are created by H.A.A.R.P. and you'll have to You Tube it for an explaination..it's been manifest for about 40yrs so far.

Global warming  is a world wide lefty tactic , it's designed to put fear into young people , vote left and save the world , If you want proof they want to dominate our lives look at what the government is doing with plastic bags , completely illogical , just placing an imposition on us all and a subtle reminder who's in charge . If they were serious about plastic they would be addressing what goes into those biodegradable bags first , the bio degradable super market bags are used more than once but are touted as one use bags , rubbish . No surprise supermarkets think it's a great idea , they will sell us plastic bags , .15c today at countdown , I paid for 5 . As for the TTPA , labour has conned it's supporters by changing the name in NZ , nowhere else , the changes made to the TTPA  when they signed it were only pencilled in , if the USA wants to re join all bets are off and it's back to the original document , the document that labour opposed , Trumps not here for ever .

40 years ? what , Global warming has been manifest for thousands of years , hotter , cooler , warmer etc , Fiordland was all glacier 6000 years ago , not many people or cars around in those days .

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And here it is , an attempt to  Control the world , create an organization that has more power than most democratically elected governments . 

''Delegates from about 195 nations are on a deadline to produce a “rule book” to flesh out details of the pact, which the United States, at the behest of President Donald Trump, has announced it will quit.   (Good on Trump) 

The pact was 20 years in the making and commits almost every country to fight global warming. But rules are needed to bring about real cuts in emissions and ensure they are closely monitored.''

So the socialists want the power and monitor and  rule the world , if this becomes a reality we will have an unelected organization with the power to make or break a country's like NZ , Australia .

Here's the funny bit .

''Senior Chinese climate change official Li Gao told reporters last month that some industrialised countries more responsible for climate change were backsliding on the “polluter pays” principle, which “will make it hard to reach a consensus”. 

China is currently building 700 coal fired power stations and emissions are 7% above last year , can't blame them for trying .

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Make carbon great again

We need more Co2 .....not less

We all die without Co2

More Co2 promotes plant life/growth

These people are nuts

Our planet would be far better off if the temperature rose at least 5deg c but it ain't gunna happen

Co2 does not warm the planet.

The sheep need to wake up.

i hour of research will confirm this.

Ask them the question ....what is the earths av temp the last 1 billion years?

What is av earth temp now.

lies lies lies and more lies

 

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