Blue 1,085 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 I understand that Class B drugs are 'prescribed' drugs. Someone will know more than I. Doesn't make 'misuse' any lesser but turns it into a less serious offence. Stables must be full of all sorts of potential hazards with regards to drugs, tonics, vitamins etc if wrongly used. Have known someone with such charges (not a horse person) which were not pursued because the law considered it not worth the trouble of court proceedings.They did pull their horns in though. I think the major part of this is the race-fixing and if the Queen's Proctors have been following it for 18 months they're going to want a result or they will end up looking soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSling 61 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 See the upcoming Addington meeting has had a number of driver changes, so suspect that may have happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, chevy86 said: Andrew Little has been frothing at the chance to deport somebody to Australia. Chevy stop stirring please there is enough heat in the topic without you adding to it cheers...thanks for posting but lets all get the facts first before we start assuming anything...cheers. Iraklis, kilcoyne, Fartoomuch and 1 other 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rules For Some 163 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Blue said: I understand that Class B drugs are 'prescribed' drugs. Someone will know more than I. Doesn't make 'misuse' any lesser but turns it into a less serious offence. Stables must be full of all sorts of potential hazards with regards to drugs, tonics, vitamins etc if wrongly used. Have known someone with such charges (not a horse person) which were not pursued because the law considered it not worth the trouble of court proceedings.They did pull their horns in though. I think the major part of this is the race-fixing and if the Queen's Proctors have been following it for 18 months they're going to want a result or they will end up looking soft. read somewhere it was MDMA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said: With the amount of media coverage this has received, all those charged should have their licences suspended until they are proven not guilty. HRNZ has the power to do so. That is the only way that the industry will claw back any form of respect in the eyes of the general public. My thoughts exactly, the decisions and actions by the leaders of HRNZ and the RIU concerning those involved will play a massive part in maintaining some credibility in the sport. They have to show some leadership/guts and plenty of it with respect to those involved. If they need any assistance ,precedents just look at previous Cricket cases Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Blue said: I understand that Class B drugs are 'prescribed' drugs. Someone will know more than I. Doesn't make 'misuse' any lesser but turns it into a less serious offence. Stables must be full of all sorts of potential hazards with regards to drugs, tonics, vitamins etc if wrongly used. Have known someone with such charges (not a horse person) which were not pursued because the law considered it not worth the trouble of court proceedings.They did pull their horns in though. I think the major part of this is the race-fixing and if the Queen's Proctors have been following it for 18 months they're going to want a result or they will end up looking soft. As posted previously by Newmarket Class B (high risk): cannabis oil, hashish, morphine, opium, ecstasy and many amphetamine-type substances Some drug offences and maximum penalties In the following list, 'indictment' refers to a conviction dealt with in a Crown Court (with a jury); 'summarily' refers to a conviction in a Magistrates Court. Possession Class A 6 months imprisonment and/or $1,000 fine Class B 3 months imprisonment and/or $500 fine Class C 3 months imprisonment and/or $500 fine Supply or manufacture Class A Life imprisonment Class B 14 years imprisonment Class C Indictment – 8 years imprisonment. Summarily – 1 year jail and/or $1,000 fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga 194 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Fartoomuch said: Class B (high risk): cannabis oil, hashish, morphine, opium, ecstasy and many amphetamine-type substances Some drug offences and maximum penalties In the following list, 'indictment' refers to a conviction dealt with in a Crown Court (with a jury); 'summarily' refers to a conviction in a Magistrates Court. Possession Class A 6 months imprisonment and/or $1,000 fine Class B 3 months imprisonment and/or $500 fine Class C 3 months imprisonment and/or $500 fine Supply or manufacture Class A Life imprisonment Class B 14 years imprisonment Class C Indictment – 8 years imprisonment. Summarily – 1 year jail and/or $1,000 fine MDMA is Class B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said: Class B (high risk): cannabis oil, hashish, morphine, opium, ecstasy and many amphetamine-type substances Some drug offences and maximum penalties In the following list, 'indictment' refers to a conviction dealt with in a Crown Court (with a jury); 'summarily' refers to a conviction in a Magistrates Court. Possession Class A 6 months imprisonment and/or $1,000 fine Class B 3 months imprisonment and/or $500 fine Class C 3 months imprisonment and/or $500 fine Supply or manufacture Class A Life imprisonment Class B 14 years imprisonment Class C Indictment – 8 years imprisonment. Summarily – 1 year jail and/or $1,000 fine Geez its serious for her IF proven then.... Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 A mid-winter harness race in Nelson is at the centre of a police inquiry into alleged match-fixing - with allegations at least one of the drivers manipulated the result. Charges have been laid in relation to Race 11 at Nelson on June 8, which was won by Storm Prince, driven by champion driver Blair Orange. Another driver in the event has been charged with manipulating the result of the race - and causing losses to the betting public and other race participants. The charge is laid under the Crimes Act and carries a maximum penalty of up to seven years in prison. That driver's horse was considered one of the pre-race favourites - he has been accused by police of not attempting to win. That driver is due to appear in the Christchurch District Court this afternoon. He is also charged with possessing the Class B drug MDMA for supply and with supplying Class B drugs (MDMA). There were 11 horses in the race, part of a two-day Nelson racing carnival in June. Nelson Racing Club immediate past president John McKenzie said today he was "hugely disappointed" at news of the police charges. "It holds nothing with the Nelson Harness Racing Club. It's [the accused]. "I'm hugely disappointed about the whole thing. It only takes one rotten egg to ruin it for everybody," said McKenzie, a current club committee member. "I think it is disgusting if the these charges are proved. It's not a nice look into sport, not a nice look at all." THE TORCH 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, scooby3051 said: Geez its serious for her IF proven then.... Sure is, looks like some sort of official doc so scary times ahead for those arrested Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: Geez its serious for her IF proven then.... Thats is the absolute maximum so she wont be getting that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 Oh geezuz Scoobs, surely this won't affect the AllStars and Mark too badly will it? I mean I mean oh geezuz I don't know what I mean......BUGGA! Cheers Iraklis Pegasus 9 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kotare_Hunter said: Thats is the absolute maximum so she wont be getting that. Always the plea bargain bit with it potentially reduced to possession from supply Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 57 minutes ago, Rules For Some said: I hate to say it but this doesnt look good on the industry, Everyone under investigation are at the top. This is quoted from that stuff article: "Stuff understands the 26-year-old is Matt Anderson, who is widely regarded as one of harness racing's brightest young prospects. Four men aged 34, 40, 41 and 44 were due to appear in Christchurch District Court on Tuesday next week on match-fixing charges. Stuff understands the men are Nigel McGrath, John Dunn, Blair Orange and Andrew Stuart. A 41-year-old woman would appear in court the same day on two counts of supplying Class B drugs. Stuff understands she is champion driver Natalie Rasmussen. A 47-year-old man, who Stuff understands is Brent Wall, 47, has been charged with deception by match-fixing and is due to appear in Palmerston North District Court, also on Tuesday, police said." Is that the same Brent Wall who is Group Racing Manager at Race....?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, Ohokaman said: Is that the same Brent Wall who is Group Racing Manager at Race....?? Booze up-- Yes i think so Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,203 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 Oh shit on it all can't read anymore......gutted! Cheers Iraklis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket RC 209 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 The latest from Tweetland Garrick Knight @GarrickRKnight 5m5 minutes ago More BREAKING: Sources telling me a number of different Canterbury stables have been raided this morning. It just keeps on keeping on, one in West Melton and two in Nth Canterbury were visited by the boys in blue this morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket RC 209 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Iraklis said: Oh shit on it all can't read anymore......gutted! Cheers Iraklis Calm down , there's more to come. No JD or BO at races this Friday. A wise move by all concerned now that its been confirmed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSling 61 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 If it keeps going, one wonders if there will be a Friday Addington meeting at all this week, might not be too many trainers or drivers left to attend!!! Newmarket RC 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rules For Some 163 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 apparently three more stables, two in North Canterbury and one in West Melton were visited by police this morning. Also, it appears that last years/last seasons NZ Derby is another race involved in this shambles according to stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket RC 209 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rules For Some said: apparently three more stables, two in North Canterbury and one in West Melton were visited by police this morning. Also, it appears that last years/last seasons NZ Derby is another race involved in this shambles according to stuff And in the Derby the first 2 horses were driven by BO and DD. Further to that story Trainer and driver Matt Anderson, 26, is in custody pending an appearance in the Christchurch District Court on Wednesday afternoon on match-fixing and drug charges. Anderson is widely regarded as one of harness racing's brightest young prospects. He has been charged with possession and supply of MDMA (Ecstasy) and jointly charged with Blair Nathan Orange with manipulating the overall result of race 11 at Nelson Harness Racing Club on June 8 2018 by not attempting to win with Johnny White and allowing Storm Prince to win. The charge alleges he intended to influence the betting outcome causing loss in excess of $1000 to other persons including other participants in the race and the betting public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Bukowski 408 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 And O, how we laughed and pointed the finger and got on our high horse with all those Queensland harness race fixing arrests , now it's their turn , remember we didn't know all the facts but popo must be right , our cuzzies be looking over the ditch assuming exactly the same thing. Facts getting darker by the hour... While I agree , may be hard to prove the difference between race fixing and a shit drive Gran Torino sic (Add), and that's not the only case. Not enjoying this at all, goes against everything we believe in. Please don't be another G Small episode going on for years and years...and years Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatime 323 Report post Posted September 4, 2018 36 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said: Booze up-- Yes i think so It would be a heck of a coincidence if it's not the same one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie85 94 Report post Posted September 5, 2018 I hope they have included Race3 at Addington on Fri 17th August in there inquiry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted September 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, newbie85 said: I hope they have included Race3 at Addington on Fri 17th August in there inquiry. Not sure why they would. What are you suggesting here ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...