Pegasus 9 523 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/105986608/one-of-new-zealands-most-prominent-greyhound-trainers-charged-after-five-dogs-die Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rules For Some 163 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 44 minutes ago, Pegasus 9 said: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/105986608/one-of-new-zealands-most-prominent-greyhound-trainers-charged-after-five-dogs-die Be nothing more than a fine. Swept under the carpet Hound Fan 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe blogs 202 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 I dont think so to be honest Takes a wee bit of pressure of cole dosent it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 And this is why news sells. Everyone get on the band wagon keyboards warriors and the likes will have a field day, I read the story and it doesn’t really tell us anything... looks like he has been charged but hasn’t been before anyone doesn’t say how they died put a “ person “say they more than likely “stoped breathing “ I’ll wait until I here facts certainly takes a bit of heat of something,oh rules for some has taken off ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 You can’t tell me no sheep and cows don’t have the same problem?? Just a question for people out there if an Lp has a car crash with dogs in van or trailer would they be charged if it was found to be there fault ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, I know said: You can’t tell me no sheep and cows don’t have the same problem?? Just a question for people out there if an Lp has a car crash with dogs in van or trailer would they be charged if it was found to be there fault ? yes Big ears 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe blogs 202 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 I know You defend the keenl do you not think this looks bad for us Yes or no answer i know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay4 30 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 Forget sheep and cows, greyhounds is the game under pressure and with the last year being the top trainers in the news. Who needs activists! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Joe blogs said: I know You defend the keenl do you not think this looks bad for us Yes or no answer i know Joe blogs yes I defended the kennel as also I would defend others... of course it’s a bad look but and it’s a big but I don’t and we all don’t have facts required to make up our minds do we ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jay4 said: Forget sheep and cows, greyhounds is the game under pressure and with the last year being the top trainers in the news. Who needs activists! Very true jay4 it’s veru hard for this game when things keep coming but there are other industry that have there problems it’s all how they deal with them . I would have like to think our industry would have come to the party in response to this and other stuff articles as like I said before bad news sells more than good news . What they have said in this case is not a lot of facts plenty of holes but it paints a picture that they want to create. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Fan 577 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, I know said: Very true jay4 it’s veru hard for this game when things keep coming but there are other industry that have there problems it’s all how they deal with them . I would have like to think our industry would have come to the party in response to this and other stuff articles as like I said before bad news sells more than good news . What they have said in this case is not a lot of facts plenty of holes but it paints a picture that they want to create. Worst way and most painful way for a dog to die if it was heat exhaustion.....grnz need to stop greyhound farming and eliminate the numbers game right now if they are serious about welfare.....limit numbers breed per kennel and numbers trained before our sport is destroyed through greed... Big ears, MiniJax, Rules For Some and 3 others 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Fan 577 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 Sorry bred Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 Steve the story says it’s with the jca so you like the rest of us will accept the decision made . Let’s not jump to conclusions idol gossip is what will ultimately destroy the game . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatime 323 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 2 hours ago, I know said: And this is why news sells. Everyone get on the band wagon keyboards warriors and the likes will have a field day, I read the story and it doesn’t really tell us anything... looks like he has been charged but hasn’t been before anyone doesn’t say how they died put a “ person “say they more than likely “stoped breathing “ I’ll wait until I here facts certainly takes a bit of heat of something,oh rules for some has taken off ... I agree with you that the speculation and getting opinions of people with agendas isn’t really helpful but no matter what the reason or circumstances it’s not a great look and something needs to be done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridiculous 14 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 At least we know JMac makes the effort to rehome his dogs............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe blogs 202 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 Haha where to out the back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Fan 577 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 10 hours ago, I know said: Steve the story says it’s with the jca so you like the rest of us will accept the decision made . Let’s not jump to conclusions idol gossip is what will ultimately destroy the game . Agree 100pc... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betting man 57 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 Forget “It’s a bad look” - it’s an absolute disgrace! It doesn’t matter what industry it is, if it was someone with a car load of poodles - it’s complete negligence and who ever is responsible should be in court and out of the industry FULL STOP. Anyone that makes excuses or allowances for this type of negligence is as bad as those responsible in my opinion. MiniJax, Rules For Some, Alison and 6 others 5 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rules For Some 163 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 17 hours ago, Hound Fan said: Worst way and most painful way for a dog to die if it was heat exhaustion.....grnz need to stop greyhound farming and eliminate the numbers game right now if they are serious about welfare.....limit numbers breed per kennel and numbers trained before our sport is destroyed through greed... agreed, the industry simply cannot support the amount of dogs that are currently being bred. My biggest worry will be the questions that come next? Such as where do 90% of J Macs pups go Big ears 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus 9 523 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 Absolutely agree with 'Betting Man.' There is no excuse. Out and out cruelty. Very, very sad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdown 299 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 19 hours ago, I know said: Steve the story says it’s with the jca so you like the rest of us will accept the decision made . Let’s not jump to conclusions idol gossip is what will ultimately destroy the game . 8 hours ago, Hound Fan said: Agree 100pc... I can't agree 100% with 'I know'. It's not 'idol gossip' that will destroy the game, its animal cruelty, its greed, its mismanagement!! To go around talking about 'idol gossip' and 'jumping to conclusions' at a time like this sounds defensive, defensive of the indefensible!! I suspect you lump the 8 witnesses in the Cole saga as 'idol gossipers' aswell? As I've said before its silence that will destroy the game aswell, silence and lies!! Instead of people standing up for right and wrong and telling the truth! Pegasus 9 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know 150 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Betting man said: Forget “It’s a bad look” - it’s an absolute disgrace! It doesn’t matter what industry it is, if it was someone with a car load of poodles - it’s complete negligence and who ever is responsible should be in court and out of the industry FULL STOP. Anyone that makes excuses or allowances for this type of negligence is as bad as those responsible in my opinion. I’m also a betting man. I agree with you it’s not a good look an absolute disgrace, same as the Cole Schofield goings on , one still with the SPCA not yet with Nzgra or jca . The other already been dealt with , don’t get me wrong people I’m not making allowances or excuses I comment on both cases as I have this one ... and said let’s wait until it ALL Comes out before we go and put the Boot in. What’s got me thinking is why this has already gone to the jca and is not in the hands of the SPCA like coles case ??and it’s being dealt with very fast just ? gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, I know said: I’m also a betting man. I agree with you it’s not a good look an absolute disgrace, same as the Cole Schofield goings on , one still with the SPCA not yet with Nzgra or jca . The other already been dealt with , don’t get me wrong people I’m not making allowances or excuses I comment on both cases as I have this one ... and said let’s wait until it ALL Comes out before we go and put the Boot in. What’s got me thinking is why this has already gone to the jca and is not in the hands of the SPCA like coles case ??and it’s being dealt with very fast just ? can you imagine if cole and macca go down at the same time how many dogs will be sitting around nzgra have brought this upon themselves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 20 hours ago, Betting man said: Forget “It’s a bad look” - it’s an absolute disgrace! It doesn’t matter what industry it is, if it was someone with a car load of poodles - it’s complete negligence and who ever is responsible should be in court and out of the industry FULL STOP. Anyone that makes excuses or allowances for this type of negligence is as bad as those responsible in my opinion. What kind of negilgence. BM. If you know the full details of how this happened then publish if not STFU. No doubt John would have been devastated by these events and kicking someone while they are down is gutless. Emily Robertson of the GPL uses the sad news to spray more false news with the statement that "it is not surprising that it has happened". Thousands upopn thousands of greyhounds plus other breeds have been transported interisland by the same method over the years with no adverse results. We have made the trip many times and the dogs were in excellent conditon at the ens d of each trip. Mc Inerneys have made the trip more than anyone without trouble till this occasion . Obviously something out of the ordinary happened and untill we are all aware of what it was it is best to not comment. The fact the thread was started with the word Cruelty indicates the intention of the poster POPA GAS, Eyespy, Emotive and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotive 306 Report post Posted August 5, 2018 2 hours ago, GOM said: What kind of negilgence. BM. If you know the full details of how this happened then publish if not STFU. No doubt John would have been devastated by these events and kicking someone while they are down is gutless. Emily Robertson of the GPL uses the sad news to spray more false news with the statement that "it is not surprising that it has happened". Thousands upopn thousands of greyhounds plus other breeds have been transported interisland by the same method over the years with no adverse results. We have made the trip many times and the dogs were in excellent conditon at the ens d of each trip. Mc Inerneys have made the trip more than anyone without trouble till this occasion . Obviously something out of the ordinary happened and untill we are all aware of what it was it is best to not comment. The fact the thread was started with the word Cruelty indicates the intention of the poster Totally agree with you Gom. The team would have made that trip 100 plus times without incident. Whether you like the kennel or not, that is a fact. MiniJax 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...