Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted July 30, 2018 Race 3 - BENCHMARK 88 HANDICAP (2400 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting Of $100,000.1st $53,375, 2nd $18,800, 3rd $8,900, 4th $4,450, 5th $2,475, 6th $2,000, 7th $2,000, 8th $2,000, 9th $2,000, 10th $2,000, Equine Welfare Fund $1,000, Jockey Welfare Fund $1,000. BenchMark 88, Handicap, Minimum Weight 53kg, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices can claim. BOBS&BOBS Extra Bonus available: $22,500Track Name: Randwick Track Type: Turf Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM NOMINATIONS EXTENDED TO: 31/07/2018 11:00:00 AM Last 10 Horse Sex Age Trainer Hcp Rating 1 2176x62442 ALLCASH (IRE) G 8 Chris Waller 63 2 5378x41677 CHATELARD (NZ) G 5 Chris Waller 76 3 2x42124763 CORMAC G 4 Chris Waller 63 4 x162162x74 EXOTERIC (GB) G 6 Chris Waller 5 8642x91271 FOLLOW SUIT (NZ) G 5 Chris Waller 75 6 17615x0010 MUTARAKEM (GB) G 6 Chris Waller 77 7 1140x56968 MY GIULIANO G 6 Chris Waller 86 8 10438x7994 PRAISE SONGS M 6 Jamie Thomsen 55 9 3164431x84 PRESCIENCE (IRE) G 7 Chris Waller 65 10 D4x514x521 RAQEEQ (GB) G 5 Chris Waller 78 11 x3849x5258 SAYED (USA) G 6 Chris Waller 12 255x233018 VAUCLUSE BAY G 5 Chris Waller 80 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted July 30, 2018 Ive seen something close to that about a year ago Dave. In the end i think he lined up 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneMcAlister 1,425 Report post Posted July 30, 2018 I wonder if Jamie Thomsen is worried about his horse not getting a clear run :-) Ohokaman, 47South and Littletramp 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted July 30, 2018 This is just about the worst case scenario for racing. Just for a start, importantly, the punters won’t bet...par for the course, Waller lines up way too many favourites which don’t salute...often with the maligned stable mate taking the prize...and if punters won’t bet, then no money goes through the system which stumps up racing...self defeating system... Is it any wonder they can’t get decent sized fields in Sydney and provincials...when domination has just gone beyond the ridiculous Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Thistle 133 Report post Posted July 31, 2018 I'm not sure what to make of the prize money being headlined as "of $100,000" when it is actually of $98,000. I've nothing against the Equine Welfare Fund and the Jockey Welfare Fund sharing the other $2,000, but that money is not stakes money, it is a compulsory donation from connections. The $10,000,000 prize pool in the 2017 The Everest included a prize of $100,000 for the Equine Welfare Fund but nothing for the Jockey Welfare Fund. Maybe it is the Jockey Welfare Fund's turn in 2018; if so they will do better, given the total prize pool is $13,000,000 this year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 On 7/30/2018 at 3:25 PM, Ohokaman said: Race 3 - BENCHMARK 88 HANDICAP (2400 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting Of $100,000.1st $53,375, 2nd $18,800, 3rd $8,900, 4th $4,450, 5th $2,475, 6th $2,000, 7th $2,000, 8th $2,000, 9th $2,000, 10th $2,000, Equine Welfare Fund $1,000, Jockey Welfare Fund $1,000. BenchMark 88, Handicap, Minimum Weight 53kg, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Apprentices can claim. BOBS&BOBS Extra Bonus available: $22,500Track Name: Randwick Track Type: Turf Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM NOMINATIONS EXTENDED TO: 31/07/2018 11:00:00 AM Last 10 Horse Sex Age Trainer Hcp Rating 1 2176x62442 ALLCASH (IRE) G 8 Chris Waller 63 2 5378x41677 CHATELARD (NZ) G 5 Chris Waller 76 3 2x42124763 CORMAC G 4 Chris Waller 63 4 x162162x74 EXOTERIC (GB) G 6 Chris Waller 5 8642x91271 FOLLOW SUIT (NZ) G 5 Chris Waller 75 6 17615x0010 MUTARAKEM (GB) G 6 Chris Waller 77 7 1140x56968 MY GIULIANO G 6 Chris Waller 86 8 10438x7994 PRAISE SONGS M 6 Jamie Thomsen 55 9 3164431x84 PRESCIENCE (IRE) G 7 Chris Waller 65 10 D4x514x521 RAQEEQ (GB) G 5 Chris Waller 78 11 x3849x5258 SAYED (USA) G 6 Chris Waller 12 255x233018 VAUCLUSE BAY G 5 Chris Waller 80 Jamie bailed out but CW paid up for 11 of the 12 acceptors. He has scratched 2 already so in effect has 9 of the 10 runners. Raqeeq is $4 fav so back the others Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,942 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said: Jamie bailed out but CW paid up for 11 of the 12 acceptors. He has scratched 2 already so in effect has 9 of the 10 runners. Raqeeq is $4 fav so back the others Becoming a joke... how could anyone possibly bet with confidence in that race. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
premixer 105 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 9:50 AM, La Zip said: This is just about the worst case scenario for racing. Just for a start, importantly, the punters won’t bet...par for the course, Waller lines up way too many favourites which don’t salute...often with the maligned stable mate taking the prize...and if punters won’t bet, then no money goes through the system which stumps up racing...self defeating system... Is it any wonder they can’t get decent sized fields in Sydney and provincials...when domination has just gone beyond the ridiculous Never really understood this mentaility. If his favorites don't salute, how bout betting round them, or jumping on Betfair and laying them? Will run a test tonight on Chris Waller favorites and see how the results are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
premixer 105 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Last Season NSW metro favs: All favs: 6% Loss on turnover 33.1% SR Favs trained by Waller 3.36% Loss on turnover 35.2% SR hmmmmmmm Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, premixer said: Last Season NSW metro favs: All favs: 6% Loss on turnover 33.1% SR Favs trained by Waller 3.36% Loss on turnover 35.2% SR hmmmmmmm Interesting stat, but I’m interested in how much money is NOT in invested by punters if there is are multiple Waller runners. That’s the true indicator. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, premixer said: Last Season NSW metro favs: All favs: 6% Loss on turnover 33.1% SR Favs trained by Waller 3.36% Loss on turnover 35.2% SR hmmmmmmm Actually you can do some homework on races where Waller favourite gets bumped off by one of his other runners...now that would make interesting reading..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, La Zip said: Actually you can do some homework on races where Waller favourite gets bumped off by one of his other runners...now that would make interesting reading..... But it is the punters that make the favourite,that doesn't necessarily mean that the stable think fave is best chance.One interview last year CW was going through his runners for the day in which he had multiple starters and in 3 races picked horses as his best chance in the race and all 3 won and paid over 5s when he had faves in all 3 and 2nd fave as well in one of others.Maybe he just a better judge than the punters. rayzor_ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Thank you Richie... as Sgt Schultz says...”I know nothing”..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted August 2, 2018 Go Red Alto...... - Select Odds -Final Field OddsWin OddsPlace Odds # 1st 2nd 3rd Form Horse (Barrier) Jockey FF-Win FF-Plc FD All Runners 1 X5258 Sayed (2) 62 James McDonald 9.00 2.50 2 56968 My Giuliano (12) 59.5 Scratched SCR SCR 3 16274 Exoteric (4) 58 Hugh Bowman 6.50 2.20 4 82234 Red Alto (3) 58 Tye Angland 6.50 2.20 5 33018 Vaucluse Bay (5) 57 Jason Collett 9.00 2.50 6 14521 Raqeeq (9) 56 Kerrin McEvoy 2.50 1.30 7 X0010 Mutarakem (10) 55.5 Scratched SCR SCR 8 41677 Chatelard (1) 55 Tommy Berry 13.00 3.50 9 91271 Follow Suit (8) 54.5 Tim Clark 10.00 2.90 10 31X84 Prescience (7) 53 Andrew Adkins 26.00 5.25 11 62442 Allcash (6) 53 Jay Ford 17.00 4.00 12 24763 Cormac (10) 53 Kathy O'Hara 16.00 3.90 Updated: 15:18, 02 Aug 2018 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Go Red Alto...... - Select Odds -Final Field OddsWin OddsPlace Odds # 1st 2nd 3rd Form Horse (Barrier) Jockey FF-Win FF-Plc FD All Runners 1 X5258 Sayed (2) 62 James McDonald 9.00 2.50 2 56968 My Giuliano (12) 59.5 Scratched SCR SCR 3 16274 Exoteric (4) 58 Hugh Bowman 6.50 2.20 4 82234 Red Alto (3) 58 Tye Angland 6.50 2.20 5 33018 Vaucluse Bay (5) 57 Jason Collett 9.00 2.50 6 14521 Raqeeq (9) 56 Kerrin McEvoy 2.50 1.30 7 X0010 Mutarakem (10) 55.5 Scratched SCR SCR 8 41677 Chatelard (1) 55 Tommy Berry 13.00 3.50 9 91271 Follow Suit (8) 54.5 Tim Clark 10.00 2.90 10 31X84 Prescience (7) 53 Andrew Adkins 26.00 5.25 11 62442 Allcash (6) 53 Jay Ford 17.00 4.00 12 24763 Cormac (10) 53 Kathy O'Hara 16.00 3.90 Updated: 15:18, 02 Aug 2018 However, Stanley Red Alto's trainer said Waller’s large team was not a bad thing for Sydney racing. “Everyone is saying, ‘Waller should be capped’, but without Waller, where is your racing?” he said. “If he has got that many horses that are needing 2400m and that’s their rating, he has got to run them. “If the horses weren’t in his stable, they’d be in someone else’s.” Now here is a guy who you would have to respect. Well done B Stanley. Given 4 were supposed to go around at Warwick Farm yesterday you would have to expect further scratchings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiknsmack 490 Report post Posted August 3, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 4:49 PM, premixer said: Last Season NSW metro favs: All favs: 6% Loss on turnover 33.1% SR Favs trained by Waller 3.36% Loss on turnover 35.2% SR hmmmmmmm Are you able to do the same analysis but limit it to 1800m+? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 6:06 PM, Ohokaman said: Go Red Alto...... - Select Odds -Final Field OddsWin OddsPlace Odds # 1st 2nd 3rd Form Horse (Barrier) Jockey FF-Win FF-Plc FD All Runners 1 X5258 Sayed (2) 62 James McDonald 9.00 2.50 2 56968 My Giuliano (12) 59.5 Scratched SCR SCR 3 16274 Exoteric (4) 58 Hugh Bowman 6.50 2.20 4 82234 Red Alto (3) 58 Tye Angland 6.50 2.20 5 33018 Vaucluse Bay (5) 57 Jason Collett 9.00 2.50 6 14521 Raqeeq (9) 56 Kerrin McEvoy 2.50 1.30 7 X0010 Mutarakem (10) 55.5 Scratched SCR SCR 8 41677 Chatelard (1) 55 Tommy Berry 13.00 3.50 9 91271 Follow Suit (8) 54.5 Tim Clark 10.00 2.90 10 31X84 Prescience (7) 53 Andrew Adkins 26.00 5.25 11 62442 Allcash (6) 53 Jay Ford 17.00 4.00 12 24763 Cormac (10) 53 Kathy O'Hara 16.00 3.90 Updated: 15:18, 02 Aug 2018 Brilliant.....wonder what the odds were of that......? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 He paid $9.40 on NSW Tab & $10 on Sportsbet...the fav blew from 2.40to 3.40 and never ran a place.....so what’s new? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 A classic M c Evoy ride on fab. Never ever a chance. Stewards report should be interresing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harewood 477 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 Sixteen starters in four eligble races for 0 winners. Very unWaller like. Could he go a whole Sydney day without awinner! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 One of the Kiwis will probably win Race 8.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harewood 477 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 Well he aint going to win races 6,7,9 so 3 chances in race 8 to break a big fat ZERO for the day Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
premixer 105 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 19 hours ago, chiknsmack said: Are you able to do the same analysis but limit it to 1800m+? All favs NSW metro -6.1 on turnover 28.8% win SR Waller trained -25% on turnover 23% win SR EDIT: small sample size chiknsmack 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, harewood said: Sixteen starters in four eligble races for 0 winners. Very unWaller like. Could he go a whole Sydney day without awinner! I’d say Liam’s on vacation, wouldn’t you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted August 4, 2018 Haven't checked Nanango , Tambo or Dust Bowl Downs but I cannot see a winner anywhere for Mr Waller Australia wide today, last time that happened must have been 5 Aussie Prime ministers ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...