Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted June 30, 2018 Latrobe won Irish Derby overnight for Lloyd Williams . Trained by Joseph OBRIEN. Interestly after the Irish pundits discussed the Melbourne Cup and didn't completely dismiss it . I would have thought the Leger in Sept , Arc or Breeders Cup would be most likely targets as the normal route for Irish Derby winner .However Rekindling got in at 51.5 kgs , owner might decide to do something different and throw in a entry. Only guessing but as a northern 3 year old Irish Derby winner maybe 54 kgs ?. Should stay well enough by Camelot , and with that weight would be a very live chance.I would be interested on others thoughts on a weight that might be given to Latrobe. The race is on you tube. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,093 Report post Posted July 1, 2018 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted July 1, 2018 Looks like he won't be the only one coming....bookies obviously liked him. https://www.racenet.com.au/news/withold-new-melbourne-cup-favourite-20180701 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,413 Report post Posted July 1, 2018 If a horse which took five 2400 metre maiden races to get its first win can be favourite for the Melbourne Cup. Withold. He looks like a plodder to me. HIs sire has produced some good jumpers, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted July 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Tauhei Notts said: If a horse which took five 2400 metre maiden races to get its first win can be favourite for the Melbourne Cup. Withold. He looks like a plodder to me. HIs sire has produced some good jumpers, though. Optimists those Poms TN..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,942 Report post Posted July 1, 2018 54 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Optimists those Poms TN..... And he won on the all weather track too... seems a strange Fav to me. Tauhei Notts 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 Withhold a Juddmonte cast off but went from Charlie Hills to Roger Charlton (a trainer with many successful Juddmonte owned horses over the years) after sale . He cost 170k guineas ( approx 400k nzd) at Tatts HIT sale so Roger Charlton and his owner must have known there's an engine in there. Khalid Abdullah has taken hard-nosed approach and seems to be culling his string if not top end or near to. Harlem and Foreteller a couple of decent cast offs and Lloyd Williams now has Midterm a one time Derby favorite from 2016. Roger Charlton won the Cesarewitch a big traditional end season handicap with him beating 33 others including some handy stayers over 3600 metres around one bend up Newmarket straight in October, then first up Saturday in "Pitmans Derby " over 3200 .A pretty handy bit of training. Nakeeta 5th in last year's cup beating best stayers we got down our side world bar pom import Big Duke had benefit of run but was beaten pointless by Withhold Saturday so not a bad plodder. Agree tho I wouldn't take too skinny price for November.All weather Saturday but clearly turf no issue for horse and easy lead helped. This time year with average racing it's great knowing only 8 weeks or so and the good ones start coming back. From UK perspective iam keeping an eye on Rare Rhythm for Charlie Appleby and Magic Circle same owner as Mount Athos.A few good pointers coming up in UK and France next 6 or so weeks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 417 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 from, the sounds of it, hes not coming this year Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
