berzerk 107 Report post Posted May 27, 2018 Easing the pace? An oxymoron if ever there was one on Trentham's Heavy 11. Whatever happened to jockey's looking where they are going and having some intuition? TK Allen has worked to lead, he is hardly going to keep running! Of course he will try and ease for a breather. As a punter I want my leader to go as slow as possible. I'd be bloody annoyed if they don't! Well I suppose at least they didn't relegate the winner! Complete frigging nonsense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted May 27, 2018 Sir slick was ridden like this at Ellerslie one day , but they had a few horses that normally wouldn’t run out the distance at a true tempo in the race that outsprinted him. Isn’t always the answer Berzy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted May 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, berzerk said: Easing the pace? An oxymoron if ever there was one on Trentham's Heavy 11. Whatever happened to jockey's looking where they are going and having some intuition? TK Allen has worked to lead, he is hardly going to keep running! Of course he will try and ease for a breather. As a punter I want my leader to go as slow as possible. I'd be bloody annoyed if they don't! Well I suppose at least they didn't relegate the winner! Complete frigging nonsense. You missed the important bit eased the pace abruptly.Which resulted in three horses being restrained with difficulty behind him. weasel57 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 3,923 Report post Posted May 27, 2018 When the front runner eases the pace abruptly a chain reaction can occur in a race. Worse case scenario is that a horse can be galloped on from behind and have a tendon severed or badly injured. Sometimes these injuries can be career threatening. Just another viewpoint but it can be heart breaking to lose a horse in this situation. dock leaf, napier, We're Doomed and 3 others 4 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,536 Report post Posted May 27, 2018 8 hours ago, gubellini said: When the front runner eases the pace abruptly a chain reaction can occur in a race. Worse case scenario is that a horse can be galloped on from behind and have a tendon severed or badly injured. Sometimes these injuries can be career threatening. Just another viewpoint but it can be heart breaking to lose a horse in this situation. Exactly. I had a smart filly in the 1000 Guineas, MJW led up on the Vela filly Insouciant; he eased and stacked the field so sharply that two horses fell - mine being one. She fractured a hock in the fall, not sure about the other filly but both were ruined...and nothing was ever said or done about it. At least action was taken in this case, as it should have been. elbow, hedley, We're Doomed and 4 others 6 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdt 291 Report post Posted May 28, 2018 Just to add a little more to the topic. Have a read of this link Race 10 at Shatin Sunday 27/05. K C Leung and his actions have had consequences for him. http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/RaceReportFull.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,539 Report post Posted May 28, 2018 14 hours ago, Pam Robson said: Exactly. I had a smart filly in the 1000 Guineas, MJW led up on the Vela filly Insouciant; he eased and stacked the field so sharply that two horses fell - mine being one. She fractured a hock in the fall, not sure about the other filly but both were ruined...and nothing was ever said or done about it. At least action was taken in this case, as it should have been. That filly you had pam, has left a couple of handy horses, as a broodmare, if its the one I'm thinking of, one looks like a very nice stayer in the making, going by his last start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,536 Report post Posted May 28, 2018 Yes, you are right, he certainly looks the goods. As for poor Auntie, and her very ill owner; I had no doubt about the [ in ] action taken after watching Cammo sidle across the birdcage to high-five the winning jockey...' got the money, bro '.....I waited all day to have a meeting with stipes to be put off repeatedly, and then to watch them all walk away at the end of the day. One cast a glance at me still standing around and said, too busy to talk to you. We're Doomed, Insider, elbow and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,539 Report post Posted May 29, 2018 Thats a real shame, and would really hurt, a credit to you to have a starter in the race, and a heartbraker to have that happen, she was obviously never the same after her injury, and we never got to see the best of her, be good to watch her progeny preform now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumpole 483 Report post Posted June 3, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 5:50 AM, Pam Robson said: Yes, you are right, he certainly looks the goods. As for poor Auntie, and her very ill owner; I had no doubt about the [ in ] action taken after watching Cammo sidle across the birdcage to high-five the winning jockey...' got the money, bro '.....I waited all day to have a meeting with stipes to be put off repeatedly, and then to watch them all walk away at the end of the day. One cast a glance at me still standing around and said, too busy to talk to you. On 5/29/2018 at 5:29 PM, Shad said: Thats a real shame, and would really hurt, a credit to you to have a starter in the race, and a heartbraker to have that happen, she was obviously never the same after her injury, and we never got to see the best of her, be good to watch her progeny preform now. From my recollection Chris Johnson rode your horse he was dirty on Michael Walker for some time but at that time MW and Lisa Cropp could do no wrong 2007?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,539 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 5 hours ago, rumpole said: From my recollection Chris Johnson rode your horse he was dirty on Michael Walker for some time but at that time MW and Lisa Cropp could do no wrong 2007?? Yes he did, but she wasn't my horse, pam trained her, she had another of her progeny start at timaru, went a very nice race, for fourth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumpole 483 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, Shad said: Yes he did, but she wasn't my horse, pam trained her, she had another of her progeny start at timaru, went a very nice race, for fourth. Sorry Shad the message was meant for Pam Robson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,536 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 7 hours ago, rumpole said: From my recollection Chris Johnson rode your horse he was dirty on Michael Walker for some time but at that time MW and Lisa Cropp could do no wrong 2007?? Yep, Chris was the unfortunate pilot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...