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Low pay, unsocial hours and immigration law are causing a crisis in horse racing.

The racing industry is facing a massive staffing crisis as young people are put off by working hours and pay.  The racing authority also says changes to immigration laws have made it difficult to find staff.

No, that wasn't a New Zealand newspaper I clipped that from.  It was The Telegraph of 26th April 2018.  It seems to be an almost worldwide problem.

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Maybe if the NZTR, NZTBA & NZTM got together and promoted the industry within the high schools and with the career advisors it could help. We have struggled to put this across; we have seen the lack of information there is available to students re the industry, whereas other industries have posters and brochures with point of contact but not this industry. Our daughter is lucky as we know the contacts, but if a student had parents who know nothing about the industry the schools would not be able to help. I have even suggested they have a site at the likes of the Equi days promoting the industry (jobs and racing), many potential young people there and dragging their parents along who may have never thought about joining a syndicate.  

But these are only my thoughts!

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2 hours ago, poundforpound said:

Fook off....the Labour crisis in NZ Racing is entirely and totally the doing of the xenophobic well soaked fool with whatever disorder he’s got ( dementia or Parkinson’s, depends who you talk to ), he who rates 3.5% and is the most despised potential PM in history, and his minority celebrity sidekick with all the teeth, and the partner who’s riding the wave of publicity but who won’t like it soon when the media start digging ....... those two parties of the lunatic losers and low achievers have xenophobic policies that discourage if not preclude immigration and will thus cause huge damage to fishing, agriculture, construction, hospitality, Racing, health, and many other industries.

Two nutters and their parties together driving a great country into oblivion.

a bit far fetched P4P.....the labour crisis in all of those industries was well under way 6 months ago when the new government took office......

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2 hours ago, Leggy said:

Good points I agree but if you were a careers advisor in a school would you really steer your students into the racing industry?

I can think of worse jobs out there. I have enjoyed my time in the industry and I know the wages I got for the hours were pretty bad at times but I have never looked back and wished I had taken a different path when I left school.

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3 hours ago, poundforpound said:

Due to a rapidly expanding economy, due in turn to prudent governance.

Kiss goodbye to all that now, this is a lolly scramble being organized by headless chooks, and exacerbated by their Trump like xenophobia.

ha ha....on the drink again?

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23 hours ago, poundforpound said:

Fook off....the Labour crisis in NZ Racing is entirely and totally the doing of the xenophobic well soaked fool with whatever disorder he’s got ( dementia or Parkinson’s, depends who you talk to ), he who rates 3.5% and is the most despised potential PM in history, and his minority celebrity sidekick with all the teeth, and the partner who’s riding the wave of publicity but who won’t like it soon when the media start digging ....... those two parties of the lunatic losers and low achievers have xenophobic policies that discourage if not preclude immigration and will thus cause huge damage to fishing, agriculture, construction, hospitality, Racing, health, and many other industries.

Two nutters and their parties together driving a great country into oblivion.

On what basis do you blame the labour coalition driving a great country into oblivion?  The country has been 'poorly ridden' for some time by all governments.  We have a country full of capitialists with the view ' the country's fucked but i'm ok' which pisses me right off.  No empathy for the kiwi battler!! A large number of baby boomers making significant wealth in property making capital gains on property and not paying a fucking cent in tax!!!  And they have the audacity that younger generations want it all now!!

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2 minutes ago, poundforpound said:

 No government has a mandate to rule as a minority, nor to buy their way into power by granting political favours to a very low ranking minority party, see Shane Jones 3 billion dollar RDF and the well soaked ones deal to be appointed PM for 6 weeks.

This dysfunctional crowd is spending our way into poverty, business and GDP is contracting, it follows that GST and tax proceeds must thus contract, new taxes and tolls are being announced every week.

We’ll be in trouble soon enough if we continue down this path.

We’ve never had a punitive Capital Gains tax in this country, why should we have it now ? or are you one of those whingers who thinks anyone else who gets off their arse and owns something, or enhances the value of an asset should be punished for it ?

 

Fair comments there Leo, cant argue with what you say, but there seems to be an alarmingly big disparity between the haves and have nots.  I guess this is the way everywhere.  Why should people who get off their arse have to fund losers who don't want to work. 

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poundforpound - Fact - there has not been a majority (single party) government, under F.P.P. or M.M.P., since 1951 so your assertion gets left in the starting gates. That election was called due to the waterfront 'crisis' and you could argue about the tactics of government and workers all week. As to your other claims, wait to see. 'granting political favours' is a universal S.O.P.  - without them would be like racing without horses.

Isn't the bigger issue that the racing industry is in terminal decline but shouldn't expect the government to fix it. Can you imagine a queue of candidates begging to be Minister of Racing? 

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Hey Booby Bec, I am a baby boomer who made lots out of our family home and now have a nicer family home.

We were the generation that got screwed with mortgage interest rates at 19% for first and 25% for 2nd, plus we were on low wages.

We went out and got 2nd jobs, no compulsory big annual holidays, flash coffees 4 times a day etc etc like the young ones demand now.

I am enjoying my money like many of our generation and couldnt give  a flying f**k about the moaning millenials.

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9 minutes ago, Robert Best said:

Hey Booby Bec, I am a baby boomer who made lots out of our family home and now have a nicer family home.

We were the generation that got screwed with mortgage interest rates at 19% for first and 25% for 2nd, plus we were on low wages.

We went out and got 2nd jobs, no compulsory big annual holidays, flash coffees 4 times a day etc etc like the young ones demand now.

I am enjoying my money like many of our generation and couldnt give  a flying f**k about the moaning millenials.

Good on you Bob.  

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Perhaps no generation has it easy?  The millenial v old fart (baby boomer) is an interesting debate.  Thankfully the baby boomers will be dead soon and us millenials can piss the inheritance away, happy days!!

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5 hours ago, Booby Bec said:

On what basis do you blame the labour coalition driving a great country into oblivion?  The country has been 'poorly ridden' for some time by all governments.  We have a country full of capitialists with the view ' the country's fucked but i'm ok' which pisses me right off.  No empathy for the kiwi battler!! A large number of baby boomers making significant wealth in property making capital gains on property and not paying a fucking cent in tax!!!  And they have the audacity that younger generations want it all now!!

You blame the baby boomers for getting rich of the property market and not paying tax but isnt it really the politicians thats whythere no capital gains. What did The Prime Minister sell her Auckland house (I Think it was Auckland) for and what did she pay for it and how much profit did she make. Not only that look at the huge wage our politicans are getting and yet Winston elects  to collect the super and when his name is realised because he got overpaid he decides to take them to court and who pays for that US of course. Thirdly everyone who elects to pays into kiwi saver and the employer has to pay 1-2 percent but with the politiians it is matched  with what they pay into it (or a lot bigger percentage)  and who pays that we do as tax payert. So the state of our country is not the fault of the greedy baby boomers who want to get ahead a secure a good life for their families it is the greedy politicans.

 

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Why work all day when you can now make a comfortsble living just riding trackwork.

If you ride 20 per morning thats 1200 a week. Add a couple of breakers and hay pressto that another 500 per week after feeding them.

 

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On ‎29‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 4:13 PM, Robert Best said:

Hey Booby Bec, I am a baby boomer who made lots out of our family home and now have a nicer family home.

We were the generation that got screwed with mortgage interest rates at 19% for first and 25% for 2nd, plus we were on low wages.

We went out and got 2nd jobs, no compulsory big annual holidays, flash coffees 4 times a day etc etc like the young ones demand now.

I am enjoying my money like many of our generation and couldnt give  a flying f**k about the moaning millenials.

totally agree... the baby boomers are enjoying the fruits of their labours. My first and only appreciating asset is the property I bought in the late 1980s...at the end of a grval road 50 mins from civilization...no flush toilet, no mains pressure...took 17 years to pay off the mortgage at 18-22% per annum on a single income. Millenials wan Remmers lifestyle free of charge (maybe 5% deposit and 4% interest). WORK to get ahead. DONT rely on State handouts. BE realistic and accountable for your actions.

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On 4/29/2018 at 5:32 PM, army said:

You blame the baby boomers for getting rich of the property market and not paying tax but isnt it really the politicians thats whythere no capital gains. What did The Prime Minister sell her Auckland house (I Think it was Auckland) for and what did she pay for it and how much profit did she make. Not only that look at the huge wage our politicans are getting and yet Winston elects  to collect the super and when his name is realised because he got overpaid he decides to take them to court and who pays for that US of course. Thirdly everyone who elects to pays into kiwi saver and the employer has to pay 1-2 percent but with the politiians it is matched  with what they pay into it (or a lot bigger percentage)  and who pays that we do as tax payert. So the state of our country is not the fault of the greedy baby boomers who want to get ahead a secure a good life for their families it is the greedy politicans.

 

Ardern is making the most of it while she's PM....won't have that salary for long. Add in the extra the pollies get apart from their inflated Super, the unlimited travel after they finish etc and it's no wonder so many no hopers apply.....unemployable most of them.

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She is just the puppet P4P--Heather Simpson (permanently ensconced in her office) and Helen Clark are pulling the strings. Quite remarkable how Clark( without an "e") pops up everywhere that Ardern is fronting, even in London with those bloody Topp twins.

Will be interesting to see how the 2 H's and Peters interact.

(This thread seems to have morphed somewhat:ph34r:)

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Why the world is leaving NZ behind

By Christie

On 20 April the NBR ran an article on why we are being left behind, as the rest of the world moves into a growth phase. Quote:

If the domestic economy slows faster than expected in the next two years, it won’t be due to overseas trends.

Voters who backed a change of government back in September also chose a package of low-growth options over the status quo.That realisation is already affecting economic forecasts, even though the world is in a synchronised growth mode for the first time in decades. End quote.

 

Surprise, surprise. Remember how Winston said capitalism has failed? Somehow the answer is to tank our economy and reduce growth  at a time when the rest of the world is finally in a growth stage. Quote:

IMF Chief economist Maurice Obstfeld urged policymakers to use this buoyancy wisely to ensure against future downturns. “Countries need to rebuild fiscal buffers, enact structural reforms and steer monetary policy cautiously in an environment that is already complex and challenging.”

Some of this advice is being ignored by the Coalition government, particularly the reference to rebuilding fiscal buffers. Instead, it is reversing direction and will eliminate the surpluses of the past two years. End quote.

Why is it that socialist governments can never seem to see the benefit of a strong economy? If they kept growth numbers strong and kept tax rates reasonably low, they could afford their social programmes and would have the best of all worlds. Instead, they trash the economy, and increase taxes so that workers are simply going out to work to pay for others. No wonder those around the margins decide to quit working. Quote:

Already one forecaster, Infometrics, is predicting New Zealand will slow to 2.4% annual growth by the end of this year, and below 2% during 2019. This would be the worst annual outturn since the global financial crisis in 2008-9. Before the election, Infometrics was the most enthusiastic backer of Labour’s policies, so the switch is significant.

Chief forecaster Gareth Kiernan says the two main reasons for his downgrade are a decline in net migration, and the stalling of construction and infrastructure. End quote.

All this is in spite of Labour’s promises before the election. Ten thousand houses a year, of which 18 are in progress and they were started by National anyway. The end of the Roads of National Significance, or RONS. The development of RonAir. Obviously, someone should have put Ron Mark in charge of roads. Quote:

Unfortunately, these are not the only negative effects on business. Wage inflation tougher hiring and firing rules, and higher compliance costs have already slashed business confidence. End quote.

The thing is, this was part of what Steven Joyce meant when he talked about an $11.7 billion hole. He knew there were wage claims coming up from teachers and nurses. Labour studiously ignored these things during the election campaign, gave all the spare cash to tertiary students who didn’t need help, and then claimed, “Things are much worse than we thought.” If they hadn’t started out with a lolly scramble, it might have all been different. I’d rather see the money go to nurses than students from middle class families. Quote:

This can be interpreted as a greater dependence in future on government activity, and therefore an increasing tax burden, with a corresponding decline in the contribution of private investment and business. End quote.

Shall we party like it is 1999? Sure feels like it. Auntie Helen is even back in charge. Where is Marty McFly when you need him? Quote:

Confirmation comes in the bans on further irrigation schemes and privately funded offshore oil and gas exploration, which the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Enterprise says will have a long term loss of $6.2 billion to the economy. This includes nearly $1 billion in foregone royalties to a government that is detaching itself from the world economy. End quote.

Business is really struggling under Labour. Confidence is the lowest we have seen for at least a decade. When you have a government that are perfectly happy to trash a productive industry with no consultation, simply because they want to send virtue signals, you know you are in trouble. Even if you believe in climate change, everyone knows that trashing our exploration industry will have no effect at all. It will just cost more to import oil.

I am horrified by this government. The damage they are doing is massive. They had no idea, when they played student politics by announcing that there would be no new oil or gas exploration permits, that the industry would react immediately. They thought they had decades before it was going to be a problem. It just shows how stupid, naive and inexperienced they are. It also shows that they should not be in government.

The truth is that the ones who vote for this mob are the ones who will be affected the most. Petrol prices are already increasing, while the light rail to Auckland Airport is still years away. How is Jacinda helping all those children in poverty by pushing up basic living expenses? She isn’t. They will be worse off under Labour than they ever were under National.

They say a week is a long time in politics. Two and a half years seems like a century at least.

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On 4/30/2018 at 4:42 PM, crustyngrizzly said:

Talking about stable staff,many moons ago worked for trainer who had 12/15 horses in work.We had 9 staff

Trainer who rode work

Stable jockey

app jockey

foreman.

5 schoolboys on the ground 3 of who rode work.

Doubt very much that you could afford that many staff now.

you would only have one hours work a day

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On 5/5/2018 at 8:16 AM, poundforpound said:

Who do you think is riding all the trackwork ?

Yet another example of how the xenophobic policies of this government will hurt racing.

What you see is the result of the previous Government, surely!

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