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VG Derby winner, given a proper stamina test, this horse improved a good deal. The time was outstanding for races run over the longer trips in the ground to, and he has won by staying. He looks like his sire New Approach who won this in 2008 and he is an extravagant galloper but although a big horse had no problems with the course.

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1 hour ago, BruceL said:

Can you please put up the pedigree of the Derby winner Masar.

By a son of Galileo (New Approach) and from the dam line of Galileo, so a cross of the great mare Urban Sea!

 

Incredibly close up inbreeding on both sides of the stallions pedigree.  Probably the most under valued part of the pedigree the mares bottom line. 

 

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2 hours ago, Swynford said:

 

Incredibly close up inbreeding on both sides of the stallions pedigree.  Probably the most under valued part of the pedigree the mares bottom line. 

 

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How much of an outstanding influence is Green Desert just a wonderful sire.

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On 03/06/2018 at 10:21 AM, Swynford said:

 

Incredibly close up inbreeding on both sides of the stallions pedigree.  Probably the most under valued part of the pedigree the mares bottom line. 

 

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Grunt bred on a similar pattern (not quite as close) in terms of inbreeding to superior females.

By O’Reilly and out of a mare that traces back to Hunza (O’Reillys family)

Would love a NZ stud to make a play for him, the sons of O’Reilly are doing a job (Alamosa, Shamexpress, Sacred Falls to come)

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Wrote has a remarkably similar pedigree profile to Masar

* Sadlers Wells sireline

* Green Desert in dam sire line

* Sharpen Up and Nijinsky in the female tail

WROTE ped_i.gif ped_p.gif (IRE) dkb/br. H, 2009 {5-h} DP = 4-3-13-5-1 (26) DI = 1.08   CD = 0.15 - 11 Starts, 3 Wins, 0 Places, 4 Shows Career Earnings: $815,943
 
HIGH CHAPARRAL (IRE)
b. 1999
SADLERS WELLS (USA)
b. 1981 [CS]
NORTHERN DANCER (CAN)
b. 1961 [BC]
  NEARCTIC (CAN)
br. 1954
NEARCO (ITY) br. 1935 [BC]
LADY ANGELA (GB) ch. 1944
NATALMA (USA)*
b. 1957
NATIVE DANCER (USA) gr. 1950 [IC]
ALMAHMOUD (USA) ch. 1947 *
FAIRY BRIDGE (USA)*
b. 1975
BOLD REASON (USA)
b. 1968
HAIL TO REASON (USA) br. 1958 [C]
LALUN (USA) b. 1952 *
SPECIAL (USA)*
b. 1969
  FORLI (ARG) ch. 1963 [C]
THONG (USA) b. 1964 *
KASORA (IRE)
b. 1993
DARSHAAN (GB)
br. 1981
SHIRLEY HEIGHTS (GB)
b. 1975 [CP]
MILL REEF (USA) b. 1968 [CS]
HARDIEMMA (GB) b. 1969
DELSY (FR)
blk/br. 1972
ABDOS (FR) br. 1959
KELTY (FR) b. 1965
KOZANA (GB)
dkb/br. 1982
KRIS (GB)
ch. 1976
  SHARPEN UP (GB) ch. 1969 [BC]
DOUBLY SURE (GB) b. 1971
KOBLENZA (FR)
b. 1966
HUGH LUPUS (FR) b. 1952
KALIMARA (FR) b. 1960
DESERT CLASSIC (GB)
b. 2002
GREEN DESERT (USA)
br. 1983
DANZIG (USA)
b. 1977 [IC]
NORTHERN DANCER (CAN)
b. 1961 [BC]
  NEARCTIC (CAN) br. 1954
NATALMA (USA) b. 1957 *
PAS DE NOM (USA)
br. 1968
ADMIRALS VOYAGE (USA) dkb/br. 1959
PETITIONER (GB) b. 1952 *
FOREIGN COURIER (USA)
b. 1979
SIR IVOR (USA)
b. 1965 [IC]
SIR GAYLORD (USA) br. 1959 [IC]
ATTICA (USA) ch. 1953 *
COURTLY DEE (USA)*
dkb/br. 1968
NEVER BEND (USA) br. 1960 [BI]
TULLE (USA) b. 1950
HIGH STANDARD (GB)
ch. 1992
KRIS (GB)
ch. 1976
  SHARPEN UP (GB)
ch. 1969 [BC]
ATAN (USA) ch. 1961
ROCCHETTA (GB) ch. 1961
DOUBLY SURE (GB)
b. 1971
RELIANCE (FR) br. 1962 [SP]
SOFT ANGELS (GB) ch. 1963
DURRAH (USA)
b. 1985
NIJINSKY (CAN)
b. 1967 [CS]
NORTHERN DANCER (CAN)   b. 1961 [BC]
FLAMING PAGE (CAN) b. 1959 *
SPECIAL (USA)*
b. 1969
  FORLI (ARG) ch. 1963 [C]
THONG (USA)

b. 1964 *

 

 

 

 

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And it wasn't born with two heads or five legs! I guess using a human comparison it is your grandmother on your paternal side and your great grandmother on your maternal side being the same person. As humans we are (or were?) allowed to marry first cousins - and often did when communities were isolated and insular, maybe this equine cross isn't that close, however, I wouldn't personally breed horses this close. What do others think?

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