Booby Bec 84 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 Just watched him deadset slay Mach Up at Addington. Yes he was caught wide for a major part of the race but Natalie or Mark WOULDN;got beaten on that horse! The shit hawks must be circling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counter Punch 256 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 Here we go.... What was he supposed to do exactly? Drove the horse like the $1.32 shot it was and it went poor.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackedbluechip 29 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 The All Stars are always vulnerable when Mark Purdon isn't present. Work that into calculations when punting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, stackedbluechip said: The All Stars are always vulnerable when Mark Purdon isn't present. Work that into calculations when punting. Can you pass that onto Brodie please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booby Bec 84 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 The run was very good but clearly a Purdon b grader. T williams just not good enough, there are much better younger drivers who are better out there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejanitor 1,206 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 50 minutes ago, Booby Bec said: The run was very good but clearly a Purdon b grader. T williams just not good enough, there are much better younger drivers who are better out there Name a few? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booby Bec 84 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 Sheree Tomlinson, , Brad Williamson, Kim Butt, Matt Anderson ...... and they don't drive the same cattle. Incredibly indecisive for mine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejanitor 1,206 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 37 minutes ago, Booby Bec said: Sheree Tomlinson, , Brad Williamson, Kim Butt, Matt Anderson ...... and they don't drive the same cattle. Incredibly indecisive for mine I agree three of them are as good as Williams, but K. Butt is not. Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 682 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 11 hours ago, stackedbluechip said: The All Stars are always vulnerable when Mark Purdon isn't present. Work that into calculations when punting. They aren't much good without Mark, poor record 8 starters 2 1sts 3 2nds 3 3rds 1 4th. As Trumpy would say Fire them. Most drivers that draw 9 are three back the fence after a furlong. How would the greats drive Mach Up flog him to lead and beat the ambulance home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Lee270744 said: They aren't much good without Mark, poor record 8 starters 2 1sts 3 2nds 3 3rds 1 4th. As Trumpy would say Fire them. Most drivers that draw 9 are three back the fence after a furlong. How would the greats drive Mach Up flog him to lead and beat the ambulance home. That adds up to 9...not 8.. Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 682 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: That adds up to 9...not 8.. I should have left the 4th out lol. Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 682 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 B Williamson 348 drives 38 wins 364k S Tomlinson 344 d 25 w 394K M Anderson 261 d 32 w 291k T Williams 214 d 24 w 590k K Butt 151 d 10 w 107k There are a few stats when bagging drivers namely Tim Williams. Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 682 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 BTY Tim had 5 drives 2 firsts 1 second 2 thirds did he win the driver's challenge? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoHarness 33 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 Sam Payne did an Alister Lowe in the last race but no penalty.....where is the consistency. As well as not giving his horse every opportunity, he buggered the chances of several others in the process....at least Lowe did not get in the way of other horses or hold them up like Payne did last night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,025 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, GoHarness said: Sam Payne did an Alister Lowe in the last race but no penalty.....where is the consistency. As well as not giving his horse every opportunity, he buggered the chances of several others in the process....at least Lowe did not get in the way of other horses or hold them up like Payne did last night. The inconsistencies in charges being laid has got worse the last few years.i believe that some of the stipes are too close to some of "the families"of Harness racing.I will say no more Butt I Hope I am not Dunn with this subject Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, richie said: The inconsistencies in charges being laid has got worse the last few years.i believe that some of the stipes are too close to some of "the families"of Harness racing.I will say no more Butt I Hope I am not Dunn with this subject Purdon me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, richie said: The inconsistencies in charges being laid has got worse the last few years.i believe that some of the stipes are too close to some of "the families"of Harness racing.I will say no more Butt I Hope I am not Dunn with this subject Yes there are major inconsistencies! Do not believe the 3 families you have mentioned get favourable treatment at all! I do know that amateurs are the ones who seem to be picked on more so than the pro’s! Dont think that Sam Payne’s Drive was all that bad at all. He went forward and couldn’t get past Sarah O’Reilly on Living Legend who wouldn’t hand up the parked position! What was Sam to do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejanitor 1,206 Report post Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Lee270744 said: B Williamson 348 drives 38 wins 364k S Tomlinson 344 d 25 w 394K M Anderson 261 d 32 w 291k T Williams 214 d 24 w 590k K Butt 151 d 10 w 107k There are a few stats when bagging drivers namely Tim Williams. Yeap!! UDRs are interesting too. S Tomlinson 0.1214 B Williamson 0.1954 M Anderson 0.2039 K Butt 0.1575 T Williams 0.2264 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booby Bec 84 Report post Posted April 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Lee270744 said: B Williamson 348 drives 38 wins 364k S Tomlinson 344 d 25 w 394K M Anderson 261 d 32 w 291k T Williams 214 d 24 w 590k K Butt 151 d 10 w 107k There are a few stats when bagging drivers namely Tim Williams. LOL please he gets given good horses to pretty much sit on and steer from Purdon every week. Look from all accounts Tim is a very good horse person, but from a punting perspective hard to have as he all too often seems unsure on whether to take the aggressive approach and roll to the top or just sits in no mans land and gets beaten. Trust me it happens alot! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejanitor 1,206 Report post Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Booby Bec said: LOL please he gets given good horses to pretty much sit on and steer from Purdon every week. Look from all accounts Tim is a very good horse person, but from a punting perspective hard to have as he all too often seems unsure on whether to take the aggressive approach and roll to the top or just sits in no mans land and gets beaten. Trust me it happens alot! Perhaps, but he still wins more often than the others you mentioned. The only driver close is Matt Anderson. Tim Williams also gets plenty of outside drives and doesn't just win with Purdon/Rasmussen runners. You're not Brodies' sister by any chance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booby Bec 84 Report post Posted April 21, 2018 I wish!!! His UDR SHOULD be better too because he drives for ALL STARS, have you seen their UDR? Are you the chairman of the T. Williams fan club?? Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,025 Report post Posted April 21, 2018 38 minutes ago, Thejanitor said: Perhaps, but he still wins more often than the others you mentioned. The only driver close is Matt Anderson. Tim Williams also gets plenty of outside drives and doesn't just win with Purdon/Rasmussen runners. You're not Brodies' sister by any chance? If Matt or Brad got the drives that Tim getting then i think their udr would be as good if not better than Tims Thejanitor, Booby Bec and Lincoln1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee270744 682 Report post Posted April 21, 2018 Trust me All-Stars owners are not mutes do you think for one moment they wouldn't say anything if their horses were slain, they usually pay good money for them and to have them kept. If any of you have a problem with the All-Stars winning seek help because it is going to happen for a while yet. Allovertheform 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booby Bec 84 Report post Posted April 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, Lee270744 said: Trust me All-Stars owners are not mutes do you think for one moment they wouldn't say anything if their horses were slain, they usually pay good money for them and to have them kept. If any of you have a problem with the All-Stars winning seek help because it is going to happen for a while yet. The whole industry needs help. How can anyone think their domination is good for racing. Not to mention the domination of just the commercial pacing stallions in the harness industry. The old adage of a good horse can come from anywhere unfortunately doesn't really exist anymore, with pacers anyway Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,695 Report post Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, richie said: If Matt or Brad got the drives that Tim getting then i think their udr would be as good if not better than Tims If my aunty had balls she would be my uncle... why knock the guy if he was not good enough do you think he would get the drives??? Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...