eljay 1,720 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 The Netball Association has to take full responsibility for the utter mess the game has fallen into over the last two to three years. ALL the executive MUST resign - it has to start at the top! I heard the woman briefly on radio this afternoon (don't know her name but she was the CEO?) and all she could say was everything in the garden was rosy, they were making the right decisions and (Cliche) they would be pressing ahead on the present lines. Surely this is not the belief of anyone remotely sane - yes everyone at the top has to GO whether they had any or no input into the mess the game is in! What do you think those young schoolgirls must be thinking if this is the sport they wish to pursue? And it surely shows why such "legends" as Casey Kopua and Laura Langman turned their back on representing their country in this sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 Netball is a game designed for the referees to constantly blow their whistles. "Contact Wing Defence" is yelled out about 50 times a game. Lets hope kiwi girls wake up and let this stupid game die by giving it a wide birth. Gordy55 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,842 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 How on Earth Southby got the job ahead of Taurua was a mystery, and still is...but losing 4 games at a major Games where the NZ side had never done worse than Silver, probably means she won't have it much longer. That comment tonight by the Ferns captain Katrina Grant that " we haven't had the right direction for the last few months" was pretty damning. Emotive 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,702 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 ''''knowing that four and a half million people are cheering us on,gives us the edge'''''' Hey Ms Grant,guess what those four and a half million people are saying now. Change Banks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 I didn't realise so many of you Harness/Racing guys cared about the Nitball ! It's always the coaches fault. Sacking coaches hasn't helped the Auckland Blues ! Aussie won't be too happy either re their result . It was obvious this coach was wrong from the outset ,just like it was with NZ Cricket coach Mike Hesson ...maybe he's been lucky with the cattle he has ! Brown Fox and Memphis2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,720 Report post Posted April 16, 2018 bloke - whether you personally like or dislike netball means diddly squat really. I would hazard a guess that this sport has more women participants than any other and as such needs to be skillfully organised and administered and as such we cannot just eat sand when an obvious example of mis-management is apparent. Being nice and smiley isn't the cure needed and it is obvious from some of the comments being made by the heirarchy of the sport the big hatchet needs to be wielded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted April 16, 2018 Well your comments also mean didly Squat. You can call for the Board, CEO etc. to resign but you are farting against thunder. They will call in their PR people and talk about reviews and learning lessons from the experience but at the end of the day nothing will happen apart from one fall guy (maybe the coach) who will take the blame and save the others arses.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,720 Report post Posted April 16, 2018 OK - let's wait and see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted April 16, 2018 yes we will wait but of course "the fall guy" will leave with a very good golden handshake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overcheck 190 Report post Posted April 17, 2018 The problem lies at the top with the coach selection and even more so with the coach who didn't give her best seven enough game time to work up their knowledge of each others play, and were played out of position far too many times. That mentally must have wrecked havoc on the players confidence which is something the coach obviously doesn't understand. The girls gave it everything in very trying circumstances and I for one are very proud of their efforts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted May 6, 2018 Isn't it about time Bailey Mez retired or took up another sport. She was a disaster at the Commonwealth Games and back in the first round of the domestic ANZ Championships today posted the appalling stat of 52% for her goal shooting. Overcheck and Pegasus 9 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uriah Heap 481 Report post Posted May 6, 2018 No great fan of Netball but quite enjoying the politics. My source tells me that a big part of the problem lies with Maria Tutaia and a couple of cronies who like to keep their distance from the rest of the team, including the Coach. Emotive 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted July 20, 2018 On 4/16/2018 at 5:52 PM, eljay said: OK - let's wait and see. Told you! Nothing apart from the Coach being the Fall Guy but of course taking her golden handshake. But as I say who cares as this is a shit sport played by a small handful of countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay 1,720 Report post Posted July 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, bloke said: Told you! Nothing apart from the Coach being the Fall Guy but of course taking her golden handshake. But as I say who cares as this is a shit sport played by a small handful of countries. Like League! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloke 1,232 Report post Posted July 21, 2018 Yes agreed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotive 306 Report post Posted July 24, 2018 I was involved in coaching Netball for over 30 years, retiring at National Age Group competition level. I have taught at both secondary and primary schools and coached three other codes. I held various coaching qualifications as well as being a qualified sports medic so I have earned the right to have a say. In my time I have witnessed many changes. Three that stand out as detrimental to many sports are as follows: 1. The revamping of national championship competitions which reduced the number of areas able to compete at national competition level. Extremely talented kids continue to miss out as they are never seen and never receive the coaching or finance they need. 2. The introduction of Kiwi Sport at primary school level which put the emphasis on taking part has been detrimental in more ways than one. The no winners, no losers philosophy introduced across the country does not promote healthy competition and does not equip our kids for the future failures that they will inevitably experience once the duvet is removed. I see a link to this philosophy and the high youth suicide rate. Kiwi Sport was in part meant to be our response to child obesity, it failed. 3. The abolition of the 5-day working week has significantly reduced the coaching pool, again talent has been lost across the codes because of work commitments. Ask any club and they will tell you that they are struggling to find staff in all areas. I feel for any coach that puts their name forward in this current environment. If they find themselves at odds with any individual or admin, they are pretty much doomed. Players who have been conditioned over time are often reluctant to embrace change and can work to garner support for their view. It's about culture, a word used often in sport. It only takes one to topple all. Basil brush, Huey and tasman man 11 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,842 Report post Posted July 25, 2018 Good post E. The White Ferns have just gone through the same thing. At least the NZF CEO had the sense to "retire" before the inevitable enquiry, but you have to question the competence of both Boards here, who were responsible for, and approved, the hiring in the first place. Jennie Wylie certainly has a few questions to answer, but probably won't. I see she was Head of Finance previously, so people management might not be her strongsuit..... Emotive 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotive 306 Report post Posted July 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Good post E. The White Ferns have just gone through the same thing. At least the NZF CEO had the sense to "retire" before the inevitable enquiry, but you have to question the competence of both Boards here, who were responsible for, and approved, the hiring in the first place. Jennie Wylie certainly has a few questions to answer, but probably won't. I see she was Head of Finance previously, so people management might not be her strongsuit..... There will be reviews but unless they come from a place of absolute honesty they will have little credibility and not properly address the failures in this instance. I suspect the dismal results have much to do with individual personalities, but in saying that there has also been an abject failure to manage at the highest level. Southy has taken a major hit from which I hope she can find a way forward. Best wishes to whoever takes on the position. They say politics and sport should never mix, the reality is politics rules. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted July 25, 2018 On 7/25/2018 at 8:41 AM, Emotive said: I was involved in coaching Netball for over 30 years, retiring at National Age Group competition level. I have taught at both secondary and primary schools and coached three other codes. I held various coaching qualifications as well as being a qualified sports medic so I have earned the right to have a say. In my time I have witnessed many changes. Three that stand out as detrimental to many sports are as follows: 1. The revamping of national championship competitions which reduced the number of areas able to compete at national competition level. Extremely talented kids continue to miss out as they are never seen and never receive the coaching or finance they need. 2. The introduction of Kiwi Sport at primary school level which put the emphasis on taking part has been detrimental in more ways than one. The no winners, no losers philosophy introduced across the country does not promote healthy competition and does not equip our kids for the future failures that they will inevitably experience once the duvet is removed. I see a link to this philosophy and the high youth suicide rate. Kiwi Sport was in part meant to be our response to child obesity, it failed. 3. The abolition of the 5-day working week has significantly reduced the coaching pool, again talent has been lost across the codes because of work commitments. Ask any club and they will tell you that they are struggling to find staff in all areas. I feel for any coach that puts their name forward in this current environment. If they find themselves at odds with any individual or admin, they are pretty much doomed. Players who have been conditioned over time are often reluctant to embrace change and can work to garner support for their view. It's about culture, a word used often in sport. It only takes one to topple all. Great post ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...