enteebee 61 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 https://www.change.org/p/ashburton-cambridge-home-of-the-jewels-say-no-to-any-metropolitan-venue-bid?recruiter=104838905&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=fb_send_dialog Matilda 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamour 663 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 Thanks for organizing the petition Enteebbe. Lets hope common sense prevails and we dont get change for change sake. enteebee and Matilda 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matilda 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 I hope that means you signed the petition then Lamour?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamour 663 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Matilda said: I hope that means you signed the petition then Lamour?? Sure did jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 13, 2018 Of course it should be run at Addington as it is the best track in NZ for racing and viewing unquestionably! Change the distance to 1950m as the mile start is a shocker! At the end of the day most of the best horses are from Canterbury. If you had a good young horse that has qualified for the jewels from Canterbury would you really be keen to send your horse to Cambridge for a 1.53 minute race and be an also ran. Mile racing is boring especially when the AllStars are in there in force! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,459 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 Should go Ashvegas, Alex Park, Addington, Cambridge. Each venue once every 4 years. It'll did otherwise. Basil, Thejanitor, badger and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enteebee 61 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 It will die next season if raced over 1950 at Addington. All just greed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,459 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, enteebee said: It will die next season if raced over 1950 at Addington. All just greed I don't see it as greed. I see it as resuscitation. Cambridge every second year is especially uninviting, but even Ashburton every alternate year doesn't seem to generate the interest it once did. The Aussie raiders have never turned up in numbers, and some of the top NZ contenders seem to be skipping it in the last season or two. It needs a CTRL ALT DELETE. A reboot. Iraklis, Basil and Thejanitor 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 Its all about who can pay for the large stakes. Good concept but to ensure its future viability other areas of funding will need to be found in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Brodie said: Of course it should be run at Addington as it is the best track in NZ for racing and viewing unquestionably! Change the distance to 1950m as the mile start is a shocker! At the end of the day most of the best horses are from Canterbury. If you had a good young horse that has qualified for the jewels from Canterbury would you really be keen to send your horse to Cambridge for a 1.53 minute race and be an also ran. Mile racing is boring especially when the AllStars are in there in force! Same old same old Brodie. You really need counseling about your negative preoccupation with All Stars team. Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Fartoomuch said: Same old same old Brodie. You really need counseling about your negative preoccupation with All Stars team. Fart Too Much, telling it the way it is, the Jewels are a bore nowadays as the money is not shared around enough. You will find that there will be a lot of Canterbury qualified horses won’t be bothered travelling to Cambridge to compete for one short race at the end of the season, to be flogged and flatten their horse, for appearance money. Move the Jewels to Addington over 1950metres as the mile racing is so boring and doesn’t give all horses a chance if they draw bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Brodie said: Fart Too Much, telling it the way it is, the Jewels are a bore nowadays as the money is not shared around enough. You will find that there will be a lot of Canterbury qualified horses won’t be bothered travelling to Cambridge to compete for one short race at the end of the season, to be flogged and flatten their horse, for appearance money. Move the Jewels to Addington over 1950metres as the mile racing is so boring and doesn’t give all horses a chance if they draw bad Keep up the negative stuff, its your modis opperandi. FYG the Jewels have always had full fields since day 1 and this year will be no different. Once again you must have been mislead by those you associate with - journeymen trainers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said: Keep up the negative stuff, its your modis opperandi. FYG the Jewels have always had full fields since day 1 and this year will be no different. Once again you must have been mislead by those you associate with - journeymen trainers Telling it the way it is Fart Too Much! Harness Racing is slowly dieing, going by the decreasing turnover and oncourse turnout. New people are not be brought into the industry, unless you can prove otherwise Mr Positivity! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tasman man 11 979 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Brodie said: Telling it the way it is Fart Too Much! Harness Racing is slowly dieing, going by the decreasing turnover and oncourse turnout. New people are not be brought into the industry, unless you can prove otherwise Mr Positivity! I don't think the decline in the sport/industry can be attributed to the Harness Jewels day. Many connections look forward to being involved. It costs nothing to enter ,and horses get to register a good time which may assist their future value ,and age group racing opportunities continue on thru the winter for others. Many horses chase a spot in the Jewels so there are benefits too in the weeks leading up. When the Jewels started it was envisaged the provinces would host the day and it would be shared...that dream faded when it was obviously decided the success of the day meant many areas not suited to hosting and better to let Ashvegas and Cambridge have the certainty to improve facilities etc. Fartoomuch and lamour 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,459 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Fartoomuch said: Keep up the negative stuff, its your modis opperandi. FYG the Jewels have always had full fields since day 1 and this year will be no different. Once again you must have been mislead by those you associate with - journeymen trainers Full fields maybe. But they're certainly not full of the top 12 of their year anymore. If you've got a runner still up at that time of the season you can just about guarantee you'll make the final field. Some runners were probably only ranked at the tail end of the top 50 a couple,of months out. Quality over quantity any day of the week. And I mean week. Not weak. As some recent Jewels fields have been. Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejanitor 1,206 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 30 minutes ago, Idolmite said: Full fields maybe. But they're certainly not full of the top 12 of their year anymore. If you've got a runner still up at that time of the season you can just about guarantee you'll make the final field. Some runners were probably only ranked at the tail end of the top 50 a couple,of months out. Quality over quantity any day of the week. And I mean week. Not weak. As some recent Jewels fields have been. Agree. If the authorities are going to stick with Cambridge I believe the fields should be reduced to six to eight runners then all horses will have a chance which is not the case now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Thejanitor said: Agree. If the authorities are going to stick with Cambridge I believe the fields should be reduced to six to eight runners then all horses will have a chance which is not the case now. With respect, whats changed between now and when the Jewels were first race there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Brodie said: Fart Too Much, telling it the way it is, the Jewels are a bore nowadays as the money is not shared around enough. Perhaps they could aportion 1K of the stake to the race and the remaining raffled amongst the starters. Happy to hear you views and thoughts Brod as this probably needs a little more work. Spikecity 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 1,495 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 11 hours ago, Brodie said: Telling it the way it is Fart Too Much! Harness Racing is slowly dieing, going by the decreasing turnover and oncourse turnout. New people are not be brought into the industry, unless you can prove otherwise Mr Positivity! By " new people" what are you referring to. Administrator's, Punters, Trainers, Drivers, Owners??????. A rather sweeping statement. I can assure you there are plenty of people out there willing to get into the Harness game. Our two syndicates are about to be extended into a third one for example. Read Tasman Mans post again, some very pertinent points were made. Thejanitor, Fartoomuch and Spikecity 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Piper 404 Report post Posted April 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Thejanitor said: Agree. If the authorities are going to stick with Cambridge I believe the fields should be reduced to six to eight runners then all horses will have a chance which is not the case now. Eclipse Me ran last in her attempt at Cambridge Jewels . She draw wide and found herself 3 wide mainly, was gone by the 500m Mark. She's now running 1:53's at Yonkers. Can't wait to see her at the Meadowlamds, she will be quicker. Thejanitor and globederby12 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 14, 2018 12 hours ago, globederby12 said: By " new people" what are you referring to. Administrator's, Punters, Trainers, Drivers, Owners??????. A rather sweeping statement. I can assure you there are plenty of people out there willing to get into the Harness game. Our two syndicates are about to be extended into a third one for example. Read Tasman Mans post again, some very pertinent points were made. Punters and owners! If we have them then there will be racing. Without having owners there won’t be any horses and without the horses we have no punters! The admin stAff and trainers are agiven as they are paid, the first two are the ones that are putting their money up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maple h 26 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 14 hours ago, 2Piper said: Eclipse Me ran last in her attempt at Cambridge Jewels . She draw wide and found herself 3 wide mainly, was gone by the 500m Mark. She's now running 1:53's at Yonkers. Can't wait to see her at the Meadowlamds, she will be quicker. Don't hold your breath waiting for her to race at meadowlands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,403 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 I think the Jewels should be 1700 metres at Cambridge, and start at the top of the straight at Ashburton, which is about 1800 metres. Do not shift to Alex Park and Addington. My good friends have a two yearly get together at Ashburton for a huge day of punting, picnic food, drinking (big) and catching up with all that has happened over the past two years. Neither Addington nor Alex Park are conducive to that sort of fun activity. globederby12 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
One more lap 91 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 On 13/04/2018 at 8:36 PM, Brodie said: Of course it should be run at Addington as it is the best track in NZ for racing and viewing unquestionably! Change the distance to 1950m as the mile start is a shocker! At the end of the day most of the best horses are from Canterbury. If you had a good young horse that has qualified for the jewels from Canterbury would you really be keen to send your horse to Cambridge for a 1.53 minute race and be an also ran. Mile racing is boring especially when the AllStars are in there in force! Alter Addington track to suit a better mile start point, Menangle run a lot of miles and they do OK, whats more, from an owners point of view, you can run again next week, cannot do that after a 2600 gut buster, also put the 120 horses in 12 races, not ten, non stop entertainment and fast action. Thejanitor 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 15, 2018 24 minutes ago, One more lap said: Alter Addington track to suit a better mile start point, Menangle run a lot of miles and they do OK, whats more, from an owners point of view, you can run again next week, cannot do that after a 2600 gut buster, also put the 120 horses in 12 races, not ten, non stop entertainment and fast action. Menangle Mile Racing is shockingly boring even though it is on a big track. 2600metre races at Addington are probably no more of a gut buster than a mile! Punters will desert investing at Addington if they had mile racing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...