Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted April 4, 2018 Has anyone been to this latest round of industry conversations with Allen, Saundry, Rennell et al....?? And more importantly, were they impressed, and did they learn anything....?? Anything good that is.... Meetings at Westport last week ( come in Tom ) and Invercargill and Dunedin this week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't You Believe It 93 Report post Posted April 4, 2018 Profit for half year was down on a year ago. And Equity on balance sheet down $7m. Would you invest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Don't You Believe It said: Profit for half year was down on a year ago. And Equity on balance sheet down $7m. Would you invest? No. It's worse than you state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,868 Report post Posted April 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Has anyone been to this latest round of industry conversations with Allen, Saundry, Rennell et al....?? And more importantly, were they impressed, and did they learn anything....?? Anything good that is.... Meetings at Westport last week ( come in Tom ) and Invercargill and Dunedin this week. At least they are starting at the heart of NZ racing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM(the other Molloy) 1,774 Report post Posted April 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Has anyone been to this latest round of industry conversations with Allen, Saundry, Rennell et al....?? And more importantly, were they impressed, and did they learn anything....?? Anything good that is.... Meetings at Westport last week ( come in Tom ) and Invercargill and Dunedin this week. No didn't go Ohokaman. One of my committee did though and I have heard nothing so it cannot have been overly impressive.. I am so disillusioned with the way it is going and the impossibility of getting any traction with these guys that I simply could not be bothered wasting 3 or 4 hours and $60 worth of gas getting there. What i do know though is they needed numbers 'for catering reasons'. Presumably a 'free' scoff and drinks at the industry's expense. Now we occasionally have a meeting of all clubs here and we certainly don't all gobble industry funded tucker at such times. The gravy train rumbles on. Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 I see John Allen is being interviewed by Rodley on Home Straight next Thursday 11am Trackside 1. Can't wait..... ivanthegreat and Phantom 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigosz 287 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/racing/turn-it-big-boys-came-town Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Ohokaman said: I see John Allen is being interviewed by Rodley on Home Straight next Thursday 11am Trackside 1. Can't wait..... John Allen will go down in racing folklore as the Great Gesticulator. He has turned the tactic of blaming others into an art form. Next season will be the acid test for his much vaunted new betting platform. No doubt he is rehearsing his answers for when the cost overruns are announced and the gap between anticipated revenue and actual revenue are revealed. Insider, Black Kirrama and hedley 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2018 Allen will be gone by Labour Weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 On 06/04/2018 at 4:15 PM, 2Admin2 said: Allen will be gone by Labour Weekend. That's whats been doing the rounds. Glenda might be on borrowed time as well or does she have a white knight.?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Report post Posted April 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said: That's whats been doing the rounds. Glenda might be on borrowed time as well or does she have a white knight.?? Brown knight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,961 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, 2Admin2 said: Brown knight? No way...... going going gone is the word in the street. I cant wait, given her contribution to date. Come on National supporters, tell me why I am wrong. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted April 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, 2Admin2 said: Brown knight? You might be warm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOODBINE 88 Report post Posted April 12, 2018 Interesting appointment by Winston Peters today engaging John Messara to review the structure of NZ racing Bring it on ADM 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted April 12, 2018 The 2003 Racing Act is outdated and unfit for purpose. That it is where changes must occur to give each code its optimum opportunity to thrive. Tauhei Notts 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwmcn 44 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 Go back and read a recent article in the Informant which set out John Messiahs view of NZ racing and the direction we should take. The headline read 'start with a blank piece of paper" and create a Racing Act relative to these times and technology. Codes wise he favoured separate administrations controlling their own destiny and not a collective. It was a very thought provoking and constructive interview from an administrator with a proven track record. Read it. Black Kirrama, Insider, Tauhei Notts and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, iwmcn said: Go back and read a recent article in the Informant which set out John Messiahs view of NZ racing and the direction we should take. The headline read 'start with a blank piece of paper" and create a Racing Act relative to these times and technology. Codes wise he favoured separate administrations controlling their own destiny and not a collective. It was a very thought provoking and constructive interview from an administrator with a proven track record. Read it. And its just what each code deserves as opposed to being a servant to the NZRB. Given in Ozzie the harness market share is south of 15% one can see politics aplenty when he finishes his report but the best thing about his appointment is he understands gambling markets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 Jeez! What's BarryB going to say? A wretched Aussie being asked to rescue racing in NZ ! I can't wait to read your comment B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb 2,064 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Trump said: Jeez! What's BarryB going to say? A wretched Aussie being asked to rescue racing in NZ ! I can't wait to read your comment B. Mate I thought you would have been wanking yourself off down at the beach volleyball, surprised to see you on here. Another knowitall cock smoker like you telling us how to do things doesn't worry me at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,844 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 9 hours ago, Fartoomuch said: The 2003 Racing Act is outdated and unfit for purpose. That it is where changes must occur to give each code its optimum opportunity to thrive. Will be part of the review.....three months and we'll have all the answers..... https://theinformant.co.nz/website/News/single_news/Mandated-Messara-wasting-no-time-/AO4060 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,961 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 13 hours ago, poundforpound said: It’s interesting for sure, mainly because an Australian TB breeder is about to offer his thoughts on a NZ tricode model. I’m not against his involvement though, and I respect what he’s contributed to Australian Racing, but this is just another example of outsourcing to enable the government to deflect blame on to others, and meantime not accept inevitability or responsibility for our own actions.. The truth is that I could produce a far better report, but NZ doesn’t want to hear the brutal truth just yet does it ? Of course it does, and it bloody well need too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Kirrama 1,513 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Ohokaman said: Will be part of the review.....three months and we'll have all the answers..... https://theinformant.co.nz/website/News/single_news/Mandated-Messara-wasting-no-time-/AO4060 Dennis Ryan had the guts to keep The Informant as a Privately owned NZ Thoroughbred /Trotting publication. Didnt he? Along with Gus and others, Stretch, the Matamata lad, established a News/opinion Platform for the likes of Brian de Lore. Brian de Lore has never been fightened to take on Thoroughbred issues and conflict of interest. Gary Chittick was an RIB member when a 2kg Fillies allowance came into NZ Racing. ( Studs were retaining their filly families and saw a huge advantage for them when they raced them). De lore was against the allowances for females. That lovely bloke who wrote for the Dominion, Racing ( ????) wrote an article criticising the process with which the 2kg fillies/mares allowance had been fast forwarded.He was pensioned shortly afterwards. Here is a good read to support my point that Major Studs influence racing Politics THE INFORMANT the unbiased NZ Racing Publication. Messara will do a cull. Big time. https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/why-fillies-mares dont-need-weight-allowance-highest-level/ Tauhei Notts and gubellini 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 there might just be a few people within the NZ racing industry, currently on huge salaries doing involuntary butt clenching exercises at this news. ivanthegreat, Tauhei Notts, Fartoomuch and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhei Notts 1,413 Report post Posted April 13, 2018 I get the impression that like the celebrated "Donald" Messara is going to drain the swamp on Jackson Street. But he will find that the swamp is run by determined ugly critters, and those critters will fight tooth and nail to get Messara's report ignored. Those ugly critters do little for NZ racing but they are a formidable foe. Good luck John. It is now 37 years since John tried to buy a NZ breeding outfit, but the politicians and misguided pressure groups thwarted that bid. That failed bid gave the then young Messara a great lesson in the filthy behind the scenes machinations of NZ politics. Littletramp, La Zip, TOM(the other Molloy) and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted April 15, 2018 On 13 April 2018 at 5:06 PM, barryb said: Mate I thought you would have been wanking yourself off down at the beach volleyball, surprised to see you on here. Another knowitall cock smoker like you telling us how to do things doesn't worry me at all. A typically measured response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...